Okay, can we not derail the thread by talking about Dragon Ball dubs? I don't know how derails are viewed over here, but on SB that sort of thing tends to cause the mods to crack down on threads.
 
*apear petting a Fox-girl who fakes being a Cat*

Hello david, my old friend.

nice to meet you...not!
 
HakunoX is just going with the joke I put in the threadmark, which is from the Opening of the first seasons of Dragonball Z.

After the third fansubbed episode, you fast forwarded through it, but it stuck in your head...

Fun fact : When I watched the first English dubbed DBZ tape, my VCR committed seppuku, it was so dishonored. :)

Could we not antagonize each other, please? I really don't want to use the reporting buttons. I hate them as a mod over on the CTC, and I might be somewhat naive and foolish in believing that we can agree to disagree, and simply move on... then again, no one's perfect, myself included.
 
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Fun fact : When I watched the first English dubbed DBZ tape, my VCR committed seppuku, it was so dishonored. :)

Ah, the VCR. A noble weapon of a bygone era. One which brought an end to the tyranny of programing schedules and movie theaters. I still have mine. I lost the remote for it 20 years ago, and the only two VHS tapes i still own are Supergirl and Earth vs The Spider. The rest either got lost or died a noble death. I originally bought her because my new TV at the time didn't have any A/V ports and I wanted to hook up my Playstation. She served me well over the years, but eventually it was time to retire her.
 
HakunoX is just going with the joke I put in the threadmark, which is from the Opening of the first seasons of Dragonball Z.
Ah, that would explain it.

All I know about Dragonball Z is what I saw when my eldest was young, twenty years or so ago.

That is to say, as far as I could tell it was a lot of grunting and 'powering up', and maybe five minutes of plot per episode.
 
That is to say, as far as I could tell it was a lot of grunting and 'powering up', and maybe five minutes of plot per episode.

That sounds about right. Eight episodes of Training Montoge/comedy, 15 episodes of screaming while powering up, 3-5 episodes of actual fighting for any given major event. Dragonball, the original series that followed Goku when he's a kid, is much better in that regard.
 
That's what happened in our Earth. But in a world where superpowers exist, who's to say what happened?

Besides, the Jade Emperor couldn't stop Sun Wukong. What makes you think some communists would do any better.
A world where superpowers exist still has a HISTORY. And that history tells us that the first copyright law was enacted in 1710, that there exist a statute of limitations when it comes to historical copyright claims and that The Journey To The West as well as any other founding tales concerning Sun Wukong fell out of copyright protection BEFORE copyright law was invented.
 
A world where superpowers exist still has a HISTORY. And that history tells us that the first copyright law was enacted in 1710, that there exist a statute of limitations when it comes to historical copyright claims and that The Journey To The West as well as any other founding tales concerning Sun Wukong fell out of copyright protection BEFORE copyright law was invented.
You're assuming that the invincible person who casually told the Celestial Bureaucracy to go fuck themselves is going to care about whether the law applies to them or not.
 
Let's not forget that The Sage Aware Of Emptiness can duplicate himself by plucking a hair from his head. And he's got a lot of hair.

You can't kill him, you can't out number him, and unless you're a god, you can't contain him. Monkey does what he wants.
 
You can't kill him, you can't out number him, and unless you're a god, you can't contain him. Monkey does what he wants.
Even the Jade Emperor himself and all of his armies was unable to contain The Great Sage Equal to the Heavens; they needed to call in The Celestial Buddha Himself to do the job. Arguably, even that only worked because the opening chapters of Journey to the West was an allegory of how the competing philosophies of Confucianism (represented by the Celestial Bureaucracy) and Taoism (represented by Sun Wukong) are inherently inferior to Buddhism. Since the remainder of the book is an allegory for Buddhist enlightenment, such a view is hardly surprising.....
 
Let's not forget that The Sage Aware Of Emptiness can duplicate himself by plucking a hair from his head. And he's got a lot of hair.

You can't kill him, you can't out number him, and unless you're a god, you can't contain him. Monkey does what he wants.

It almost makes me wonder what it would look like to see Sun Wukong Vs. The Eldrazi...
 
It almost makes me wonder what it would look like to see Sun Wukong Vs. The Eldrazi...
Here's a hint. The pole he favors to use, is actually a pillar of the sea dragon gods home. It weighs in at yes tons, and he can make it change sizes. He can duplicate it via dandruff, clone himself via hair, and is immortal five ways on top of being really hard to hurt. He started as a stone monkey. It would still just take devoid Mana to kill him because he exists.
 
Here's a hint. The pole he favors to use, is actually a pillar of the sea dragon gods home. It weighs in at yes tons, and he can make it change sizes. He can duplicate it via dandruff, clone himself via hair, and is immortal five ways on top of being really hard to hurt. He started as a stone monkey. It would still just take devoid Mana to kill him because he exists.

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... That last sentence doesn't quite make sense to me even in and with context... Maybe a rephrase to make it more understandable?
 
Here's a hint. The pole he favors to use, is actually a pillar of the sea dragon gods home. It weighs in at yes tons, and he can make it change sizes. He can duplicate it via dandruff, clone himself via hair, and is immortal five ways on top of being really hard to hurt. He started as a stone monkey.
Ah, yes. the Ruyi Jingu Bang, Sun WuKong's 7,960 kg staff which is as long as the sea is deep but can shrink down to the size of a sewing needle while retaining it's full mass. Also known as the first weapon he found that didn't break as a result of him trying to wield it.......

The Monkey King can leap about 54,000 km in a single somersault, is strong enough to run at reentry speeds with two Celestial Mountains on his shoulders, and is literally immortal by five different means, including being removed from the lists of those who shall die in the Underworld, which is the least impressive form of immortality that he possesses.....

It took one who is literally the spiritual embodiment of the Universe itself to inconvenience him. Later, it took a special headband designed specifically to give him a headache combined with his own sense of propriety to keep him in line.

Unless he is facing someone that can Kill A God, then he can overcome any issues with no particular effort on his part. Those that can kill gods qualify as a light to moderate workout......
 
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... That last sentence doesn't quite make sense to me even in and with context... Maybe a rephrase to make it more understandable?
Devoid Mana destroys matter, period. To the point that an Eldrazi who has encountered antimatter considers it to be an overly excitable bit of matter. If enough devoid enters a reality then it literally consumes it and returns it back to the void between realities.
 
In other words, he's exactly the kind of OP character that makes people drop stories as lacking conflict.

Honestly, he sounds quite boring.
Journey to the West's first 20-40 (forget which) are spent explaining his back story. Then you get introduced to Tripitaka, the actual main character. Who is a descendant monk of a majorly pure member of the celestial court who is destined to both be the progenitor and reincarnation of the aforementioned celestial. It only avoids being a xianxia story by no one actually intending to cultivate at all.
 
Journey to the West's first 20-40 (forget which) are spent explaining his back story. Then you get introduced to Tripitaka, the actual main character. Who is a descendant monk of a majorly pure member of the celestial court who is destined to both be the progenitor and reincarnation of the aforementioned celestial. It only avoids being a xianxia story by no one actually intending to cultivate at all.
It's basically just one giant road-trip story with absolutely ludicrous characters occasionally getting interrupted by someone stealing Tripitaka and the rest of the gang trying to figure out how to save him in the most fun way without squishing him.

Like, one of the challenges they face at one point is having to get out of a city ran by four Taoist immortals, and Sun Wukong deals with it by starting and then winning an Immortality contest. Aka all the "players" get killed in various elaborate ways, and whoever lives wins.
 
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In other words, he's exactly the kind of OP character that makes people drop stories as lacking conflict.

Honestly, he sounds quite boring.
While there is plenty of fighting in Journey to the West, much of it involves encountering someone with a specific trick that The Monkey King has difficulty overcoming without cutting loose, while bound by his personal code to protect a squishy monk that couldn't survive being within ten miles of him doing so.

Plus, the entire book is an allegory for Enlightenment, which means most of it is concerned less with the ever-present conflict then with the steady character development, which ends with him becoming the "Victorious Fighting Buddha" by the book's end after he attains Enlightenment.

Think less a story about fighting (though there is plenty of that) and more a religious text.....
 
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