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I'm generally inclined to reward the effort. Some of it I'll use, other bits I might adapt
Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)
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Then I'll try and do better since it can be improved more.
No new additions. 9 hours and 27 minutes left.
I would feel frustrated that my efforts in all that flavor text didn't get cannibalized but that's the story of my small life.
@Doomed Wombat still wanna cannabalise it?
I would feel frustrated that my efforts in all that flavor text didn't get cannibalized but that's the story of my small life.
@Doomed Wombat still wanna cannabalise it?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Apologies, doing now.
When I get back I will do more for diplomacy.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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NP.
Done it now.
BTW you seem to be missing a warband action for MK8, I'd say do the cross training.
I was tired then give me a moment.
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So yea I've put a timer on it for later tonight, as the two of you seem to be doing some sort of joint plan can one of you let me know what you're going for? You're the only ones to have submitted a plan so far in various iterations and I don't expect any last minute plans from others
I'm pissed my whole edit plan just disappeared when I don't remember closing it.
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-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to get a bigger probability to be allowed access to the Crusade's resources to aid them in continuing the fight against the scourge. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband with additional training or specialisation of new infantry or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts? Does anyone else have ideas they are interested in doing to meet their goals they aim to get as part of the warband.
5. Once everything is decided on the needs of the warband it will affect requisition, diplomacy and training efforts.
6. Bring up the matter of future cooperation with the Scarlet Crusade and their neighbors more closely especially Kul Tiras.
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history. See if you can get Prestor, Fordragon and Bran altogether to continue trading history lessons if they're interested especially if Grok's companions came to also share in it. Should the result be good subtly mention the sacrifices taken to aid the Crusade and request the need for more assistance involving prisoners you heard from Darion being brought from their delegation especially orcs that could be sped fast into joining the warband or the diplomats own backing to join and fight with Darion.
Diplomacy is a fine art to take up when a weapon is better kept in the sheath and the tongue is used instead. Your performance was nothing short of a miracle in laying out a good impression to nations that used to fight the horde under Blackhand and Doomhammer. Knowledge you found was power and wisdom allows such knowledge of a nation's culture and language to be used accordingly which was why revealing your ability to understand and speak the human's language carries both shock and respect once they know a hulking green brute can speak eloquently and answer barbed questions with your own repertoire of responses with people your teacher would have met in Stormwind. And so you see an opportunity with history as the bait to draw all three together as they were interested in your tale so you will oblige Lady Prestor with a cultural exchange of your history and hopefully theirs when the lady of Stormwind keeps mentioning an orc long gone from Draenor. But first where to start from which order once the conference has provided their advice?
Knowing the opening to all three was easy:
1. Prince Brann Bronzebeard of Ironforge. You noticed he and Vok'fon share a history from their exchange of looks at each other. Perhaps you can use that to reel him in with the other two to continue this line of discussion in private.
2. Bolvar Fordragon is simple enough as a knight and general of Stormwind who already recognises your deeds with Tirion and your teacher vouching for you. You just need to share with him your last moments with your teacher since you saw his reaction hearing news of his death.
3. Lady Katrana Prestor is easy and yet hard to predict. You don't know her at all except she's the advisor to the King of Stormwind but she invited you to continue what you said to the delegation. Will she accept more guests together with her to learn history?
If it worked well, maybe you were better off as a diplomat for the horde ha! But now comes the hard part that requires subtlety and tact. A private discussion about history is one thing but to then switch it into more political matters is another. However if your repertoire of words succeed in impressing them all and that of your companions you bring with you perhaps it may lead to something more after all the delegation is here to help Lordaeron against the Scourge and as your warband has contributed perhaps they can be of some help to your own goals? They can through their influence make it easier to release prisoners especially orcish prisoners Darion mentioned to be pressed into your service and for Darion your equerry maybe the three can put in a good word for more volunteers to join the warband to work with Darion?
The matter of the Kul Tiran ambassador is much more simple. You do not expect much of a friendly response when the horde and Kul Tiras is involved with skirmishes with each other that you yourself participated in. But for the sake of courtesy you will give back your war trophies that you don't expect to be much of value in scraps of paper except for personal effects that are obviously more valuable to the family of the deceased you have went over to their ambassador and that will be all. If entry to their ambassador is rebuffed then Bolvar Fordragon who you know is a man of honor can give it back.
-[X] Training
--[X] Train according to the results of posture.
--[X] Engage in crosstraining with the Scarlet Crusade to ensure our warband and their army can work together without incident and compliment the other's skills.
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-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to get a bigger probability to be allowed access to the Crusade's resources to aid them in continuing the fight against the scourge. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
3. Also bring up Grok's intentions to meet with the diplomats and see if they're interested in coming especially your equerry who you're sure would benefit meeting with such famous figures especially Bolvar Fordragon who as a highly influential paladin and someone who met Grok's teacher Akinos would be curious about Grok's nemesis who's the antithesis of his profession a deathknight. Highlight it's importance in meeting them to possibly use their influence to benefit the warband's goals politically and ask if there's anything interesting they'd want the diplomats to know as part of the cultural exchange.
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband with additional training or specialisation of new infantry or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts? Does anyone else have ideas they are interested in doing to meet their goals they aim to get as part of the warband.
5. Once everything is decided on the needs of the warband it will affect requisition, diplomacy and training efforts.
6. Bring up the matter of future cooperation with the Scarlet Crusade and their neighbors more closely especially Kul Tiras.
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history. See if you can get Prestor, Fordragon and Bran altogether to continue trading history lessons if they're interested especially if Grok's companions came to also share in it. Should the result be good subtly mention the sacrifices taken to aid the Crusade and request the need for more assistance involving prisoners you heard from Darion being brought from their delegation especially orcs that could be sped fast into joining the warband or the diplomats own backing to join and fight with Darion.
Diplomacy is a fine art to take up when a weapon is better kept in the sheath and the tongue is used instead. Your performance was nothing short of a miracle in laying out a good impression to nations that used to fight the horde under Blackhand and Doomhammer. Knowledge you found was power and wisdom allows such knowledge of a nation's culture and language to be used accordingly which was why revealing your ability to understand and speak the human's language carries both shock and respect once they know a hulking green brute can speak eloquently and answer barbed questions with your own repertoire of responses with people your teacher would have met in Stormwind. And so you see an opportunity with history as the bait to draw all three together as they were interested in your tale so you will oblige Lady Prestor with a cultural exchange of your history and hopefully theirs when the lady of Stormwind keeps mentioning an orc long gone from Draenor. But first where to start from which order once the conference has provided their advice?
Knowing the opening to all three was easy:
1. Prince Brann Bronzebeard of Ironforge. You noticed he and Vok'fon share a history from their exchange of looks at each other. Perhaps you can use that to reel him in with the other two to continue this line of discussion in private.
2. Bolvar Fordragon is simple enough as a knight and general of Stormwind who already recognises your deeds with Tirion and your teacher vouching for you. You just need to share with him your last moments with your teacher since you saw his reaction hearing news of his death.
3. Lady Katrana Prestor is easy and yet hard to predict. You don't know her at all except she's the advisor to the King of Stormwind but she invited you to continue what you said to the delegation. Will she accept more guests together with her to learn history?
If it worked well, maybe you were better off as a diplomat for the horde ha! But now comes the hard part that requires subtlety and tact. A private discussion about history is one thing but to then switch it into more political matters is another. However if your repertoire of words succeed in impressing them all and that of your companions you bring with you perhaps it may lead to something more after all the delegation is here to help Lordaeron against the Scourge and as your warband has contributed perhaps they can be of some help to your own goals? They can through their influence make it easier to release prisoners especially orcish prisoners Darion mentioned to be pressed into your service and for Darion your equerry maybe the three can put in a good word for more volunteers to join the warband to work with Darion?
The matter of the Kul Tiran ambassador is much more simple. You do not expect much of a friendly response when the horde and Kul Tiras is involved with skirmishes with each other that you yourself participated in. But for the sake of courtesy you will give back your war trophies that you don't expect to be much of value in scraps of paper except for personal effects that are obviously more valuable to the family of the deceased you have went over to their ambassador and that will be all. If entry to their ambassador is rebuffed then Bolvar Fordragon who you know is a man of honor can give it back.
-[X] Training
--[X] Train according to the results of posture.
--[X] Engage in crosstraining with the Scarlet Crusade to ensure our warband and their army can work together without incident and compliment the other's skills.
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On the side, why have they given Grok'mash a equerry/squire, and the son of Mograine to boot?
My hypothesis: 1) To have someone on the inside with an innocent reason for observing: someone that can report on how the Orcs are, and if it's actually possible to work with them. And 2) to see whether the Orcs screw this up; if they are handled the responsibility of having Darrion around, how do they handle it?
My hypothesis: 1) To have someone on the inside with an innocent reason for observing: someone that can report on how the Orcs are, and if it's actually possible to work with them. And 2) to see whether the Orcs screw this up; if they are handled the responsibility of having Darrion around, how do they handle it?
I forgot another issue of armor but is it much faster to get chainmail?
@Doomed Wombat here's my revised one. Anything you like?
I think there's not much I can do for training aside from maybe offering duels as a form of entertainment for the camp.
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Doomed Wombat
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Seems good, though training seems like a matter of drills and mock battles.
It seemed like a good idea at the time. A martial tournament to practice personal dueling.
@Doomed Wombat have you updated your plan?
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Yep all done.
Do note he's not just a knight and general, he's also a paladin.
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Alright and in just 3 hours and 27 minutes too.
Only thing left is to hope the rolls do their job.
Doomed Wombat
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Hopefully.
I'd say the worst thing we could do is start a war, but the horde is already kinda at war with the person we're most likely to start one with.
I'm just not sure about what Darion would do if he caught Kartha sneaking away to the village. I suppose I'll put that in.
Use this as the next one of 7. of posture.
7. Bring up the matter of the Forsaken issue with Kartha in secret. Once the general meeting is done. You may not be here as part of the horde but the clan and warband is still affiliated with it and it would be a matter of courtesy to decide what to do with other future Forsaken locations other than the hidden village you'll send Kartha to when the warband will be bringing newcomers whose loyalties are not to the warband like if your equerry or his friends finds out.
He said all of those. I just copied one sentence where he said he's a knight and general of Stormwind. You can change it a bit yourself.
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I'll double post this once because of the importance of keeping secrets.
@Doomed Wombat this one is more important for the future but how do you feel about Darion and maybe the volunteers that join the warband under him compromising as I mentioned before hidden forsaken assets if they discover it?
@Doomed Wombat this one is more important for the future but how do you feel about Darion and maybe the volunteers that join the warband under him compromising as I mentioned before hidden forsaken assets if they discover it?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Depends a great deal on who ends up joining, but I think for now its better to keep it hidden.
If Dathrohan wasn't currently in charge I'd be much more open to letting him in on it, for now keep quiet until we get to know him more.
Alright best confide that with Kartha with my suggestion and it should be gravy. She's the intel orc after all.
I don't think the winning plan cover this.
I chose the child but I don't mind if another is taken.
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[X] Vigilant soldier, ready to shield their liege
To shield him, from what? If it's from the Scourge, it's boring, and I would vote for the v e n g e f u l s u f f e r e r. Getting to know something about a faultline in the Alliance is interesting. The only problem is that Grok' may blab about it. Which makes it even funnier.
To shield him, from what? If it's from the Scourge, it's boring, and I would vote for the v e n g e f u l s u f f e r e r. Getting to know something about a faultline in the Alliance is interesting. The only problem is that Grok' may blab about it. Which makes it even funnier.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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What a weird vote...
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Indeed, how tiresome.
Looks like child wins, and if it didn't then its a tie between sufferer and soldier so I'll pick child anyway.
I'm assuming this is the essential vote and relevance. @Doomed Wombat let me know if you were planning to add stuff to it.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 7 and get the warband bleeding more for the war effort.
-[X] Fields of Tears
-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to access the Crusade's resources to aid them. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
3. Also bring up Grok's intentions to meet with the diplomats and see if they're interested in coming especially your equerry.
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts?
-[X] Requisition
--[X] Take what's recommended in Posture action.
1. Healers especially from the light enough to support a warband of 100 orcs.
2. Armor the Scarlet Crusade can spare for the warband especially for Vark's towershield units.
3. Vark was noted to use a tower shield. Get Vark and part of the warband interested in joining Vark to form a special unit in the warband with towershields.
4. Darion needs some of his people with him. See if he can get volunteers interested in tagging along with him when the warband will continue fighting. He might feel uncomfortable being the only human in Grok's warband (cashing in unknowingly on the son of the wielder of the Ashbringer and founding member of the Silver Hand)
5. More magic support like these Arcanists Grok sometimes hears about but not the most important priority to the warband but would be nice to have.
6. Grok noted he needs a side weapon when his current one is too big in tight areas like a cave. See if the the requisition can sort that out so the warband has the means to also get it.
7. Anything else his companions have an interest in possibly getting to upgrade their equipment.
-[X] Scholarship
--[X] Prepare for the diplomatic meeting to learn as much as you can with your neighbours with what you got.
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 8 and rebuild for the fight later with prisoners
-[X] Training
--[X] Train according to the results of posture.
--[X] Engage in crosstraining with the Scarlet Crusade to ensure our warband and their army can work together without incident and compliment the other's skills.
-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to get a bigger probability to be allowed access to the Crusade's resources to aid them in continuing the fight against the scourge. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
3. Also bring up Grok's intentions to meet with the diplomats and see if they're interested in coming especially your equerry who you're sure would benefit meeting with such famous figures especially Bolvar Fordragon who as a highly influential paladin and someone who met Grok's teacher Akinos would be curious about Grok's nemesis who's the antithesis of his profession a deathknight. Highlight it's importance in meeting them to possibly use their influence to benefit the warband's goals politically and ask if there's anything interesting they'd want the diplomats to know as part of the cultural exchange.
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband with additional training or specialisation of new infantry or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts? Does anyone else have ideas they are interested in doing to meet their goals they aim to get as part of the warband.
5. Once everything is decided on the needs of the warband it will affect requisition, diplomacy and training efforts.
6. Bring up the matter of future cooperation with the Scarlet Crusade and their neighbors more closely especially Kul Tiras.
-[X] Requisition
--[X] Take what's recommended in Posture action.
-[X] Scholarship
--[X] Prepare for the diplomatic meeting to learn as much as you can with your neighbours with what you got.
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history. See if you can get Prestor, Fordragon and Bran altogether to continue trading history lessons if they're interested especially if Grok's companions came to also share in it. Should the result be good subtly mention the sacrifices taken to aid the Crusade and request the need for more assistance involving prisoners you heard from Darion being brought from their delegation especially orcs that could be sped fast into joining the warband or the diplomats own backing to join and fight with Darion.
Diplomacy is a fine art to take up when a weapon is better kept in the sheath and the tongue is used instead. Your performance was nothing short of a miracle in laying out a good impression to nations that used to fight the horde under Blackhand and Doomhammer. Knowledge you found was power and wisdom allows such knowledge of a nation's culture and language to be used accordingly which was why revealing your ability to understand and speak the human's language carries both shock and respect once they know a hulking green brute can speak eloquently and answer barbed questions with your own repertoire of responses with people your teacher would have met in Stormwind. And so you see an opportunity with history as the bait to draw all three together as they were interested in your tale so you will oblige Lady Prestor with a cultural exchange of your history and hopefully theirs when the lady of Stormwind keeps mentioning an orc long gone from Draenor. But first where to start from which order once the conference has provided their advice?
Knowing the opening to all three was easy:
1. Prince Brann Bronzebeard of Ironforge. You noticed he and Vok'fon share a history from their exchange of looks at each other. Perhaps you can use that to reel him in with the other two to continue this line of discussion in private.
2. Bolvar Fordragon is simple enough as a knight and general of Stormwind who already recognises your deeds with Tirion and your teacher vouching for you. You just need to share with him your last moments with your teacher since you saw his reaction hearing news of his death.
3. Lady Katrana Prestor is easy and yet hard to predict. You don't know her at all except she's the advisor to the King of Stormwind but she invited you to continue what you said to the delegation. Will she accept more guests together with her to learn history?
If it worked well, maybe you were better off as a diplomat for the horde ha! But now comes the hard part that requires subtlety and tact. A private discussion about history is one thing but to then switch it into more political matters is another. However if your repertoire of words succeed in impressing them all and that of your companions you bring with you perhaps it may lead to something more after all the delegation is here to help Lordaeron against the Scourge and as your warband has contributed perhaps they can be of some help to your own goals? They can through their influence make it easier to release prisoners especially orcish prisoners Darion mentioned to be pressed into your service and for Darion your equerry maybe the three can put in a good word for more volunteers to join the warband to work with Darion?
The matter of the Kul Tiran ambassador is much more simple. You do not expect much of a friendly response when the horde and Kul Tiras is involved with skirmishes with each other that you yourself participated in. But for the sake of courtesy you will give back your war trophies that you don't expect to be much of value in scraps of paper except for personal effects that are obviously more valuable to the family of the deceased you have went over to their ambassador and that will be all. If entry to their ambassador is rebuffed then Bolvar Fordragon who you know is a man of honor can give it back.
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
-[X] Prisoners