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Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)

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[X] Prepare a response to the Ice Lord, calling upon the other magicians in the warband and using Myzrael to defeat the other elemental.
If we kill the teacher Thrall, one of the leaders of the Horde, and a friend of many of its leaders, we will be VERY bad. And not only to us.

Against the background of possible problems from his death (well, more precisely, if we kill him, or someone who is connected with us), a riot of spirit in a sparsely populated region is the lesser of evils.
 
Hard choices...
1. Killing Drek'thar does not banish the elemental, but rather unleashes Lokholar upon the Frostwolves. That should give us enough time to escape that they'd be too busy to bother following us. This will probably be not so risky for our warband, however, will definitely unleash collateral damage on the village. However, it also confirms to the Frostwolves not in the know that we "invaded their town and came to assassinate their chieftain". I do think this is the better chance if we want to run away and leave the townsfolk (and whatever political ramifications happen) to their fate.
2. Myzrael obviously has little reasons to fight for us, and our choice will depend on being Dark Shaman enough to keep her controlled long enough to engage Lokholar. The worst case scenario, the two team-up to kick our asses. The lesser bad case, the elementals duke it out with collateral damage in the village and among us. The good case, Lokholar loses, Drek'Thar is discredited, Myzrael is kept by the Frostwolves (so as not to cause a complete Stormpike victory in the valley), we leave in control of our forces, without looking back in fear.
Overall? I think the second choice has a more hopeful resolution in case of a good roll, while even acing the rolls for the first choice will not resolve the issue of us being thought to be invaders. On the other hand, it's also a choice to engage in Dark Shamanism again, and trigger Grok's PTSD about giant elementals going out of control again, and to cause too much collateral damage again... It's terrible, but also fitting the story. We can't seem to learn from our mistakes, mostly because the other choices are even more dangerous.

[X] Prepare a response to the Ice Lord, calling upon the other magicians in the warband and using Myzrael to defeat the other elemental.
 
[X] Prepare a response to the Ice Lord, calling upon the other magicians in the warband and using Myzrael to defeat the other elemental.

Screw it YOLO.
 
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rx915 said:
@FractiousDay let's say she gets summoned for a kaiju battle, there will be a roll to control her right?
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Yes there would be some rolls for this as that would require such a thing. Previously I didn't roll for things like the duel between Grok and Drek'thar, but I think a kaiju battle would indeed require rolls.
Zaealix said:
It's actually BECAUSE Myzrael is ProudPeak 2.0 that I want to fire her off.
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I think this would be quite a complex plan, which isn't really what Grok is thinking about. He wasn't paying attention to Drek'thar because there's a battle to coordinate and it's only been like 5 mins since the duel, so now Grok has to make this quick decision, there's not really time for long term planning
Cheap Orange Knofe said:
Can we boost elementals with THE LIGHT™?
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There's no example of it I can think of. The Kirin Tor bind elementals infrequently, but the different elemental energies are actually just all arcane magic, which the Kirin Tor are good at.

In theory, you could indeed have a Light Shaman in the same way you have Dark ones, this might be a shaman who uses the Light to bind or empower elementals. This owuld also be extremely complex though so not really something to think about currently.




Also, just as a general note for anyone considering the issues, I will note that Grok is pretty politically and religiously knowledgeable. He might not be thinking about it now, but he'd be able to predict outcomes. At least 1000 people have witnessed what's going on, both from Grok's warband and from the Frostwolves. This cannot be hidden, and something like a major elemental manifestation is also very difficult to hide. There's also the fact that Orcs would find lying very difficult. They can do it, they're not Vulcans, but as a matter of honour most would have to admit 'oh yea Drekthar did go a bit mad and start using blood magic'. Any experienced Horde shaman would be extremely concerned at this, given that all the reliable stories would match up.
 
[X] Prepare a response to the Ice Lord, calling upon the other magicians in the warband and using Myzrael to defeat the other elemental.

Time for a Pokémon elemental battle!
 
[X] Prepare a response to the Ice Lord, calling upon the other magicians in the warband and using Myzrael to defeat the other elemental.
 
[X] Kill Drek'thar before the binding can complete, dispelling Lokholar.

A kaiju battle in the middle of the village would not only decimate or troup, but it will be an absolute slaughters of innocent Frostwolves civilians. Killing Drek'thar isn't great, but he brought it on himself when he chose to try to bring down a cataclysm in the middle of his own village.
 
13-10 for kaiju battle, but vote is generally pretty close so quite happy to leave it open longer. See previous points others have made, it's a kaiju battle after all so something to consider carefully. If anyone has questions just post them.
 
on one hand killing drek'thar might not stop his spell meaning the giant elemental is free to do whatever on the other hand getting into a battle with it might do more damage then good. I am not sure what to vote for
 
Thanatosra said:
on one hand killing drek'thar might not stop his spell meaning the giant elemental is free to do whatever on the other hand getting into a battle with it might do more damage then good. I am not sure what to vote for
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Even if the elemental is free, it will at least not be further empowered by the shamans. It will just be another Myzrael and we have ourselves and the Frostwolves shaman to corral it. If we dont kill Drek'thar we would have to fight a shaman empowered elemental that was already very powerful before getting buffed.
 
FractiousDay said:
Also, just as a general note for anyone considering the issues, I will note that Grok is pretty politically and religiously knowledgeable. He might not be thinking about it now, but he'd be able to predict outcomes. At least 1000 people have witnessed what's going on, both from Grok's warband and from the Frostwolves. This cannot be hidden, and something like a major elemental manifestation is also very difficult to hide. There's also the fact that Orcs would find lying very difficult. They can do it, they're not Vulcans, but as a matter of honour most would have to admit 'oh yea Drekthar did go a bit mad and start using blood magic'. Any experienced Horde shaman would be extremely concerned at this, given that all the reliable stories would match up.
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Hmmm alright so Drek'Thar would have already discredit himself then.

[X] Kill Drek'thar before the binding can complete, dispelling Lokholar.
 
Ok so this is twice now that Thrall's attempts to get rid of us have backfired.

Who wants to bet his next move is going to be promoting us and seeing if our strange ability to mangle his intentions applies to that?
 
w34v3r said:
Ok so this is twice now that Thrall's attempts to get rid of us have backfired.

Who wants to bet his next move is going to be promoting us and seeing if our strange ability to mangle his intentions applies to that?
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I don't see any reason not to. It keeps the exile close at hand and with his combat skills can go mangle more enemies of the horde at Orgimmar.
 
14-12, still for kaiju battle. Not necessarily advocating for anyone to change their vote, but will note that I'll be putting a timer on it now for about 24 hours.

Also, I'd like to note that we have 26 votes here, so if we have another vote from someone we shall be at a new high for votes, so that, y'know, would be cool
 
[X] Prepare a response to the Ice Lord, calling upon the other magicians in the warband and using Myzrael to defeat the other elemental.

I still want blood but only from the old man.
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by FractiousDay on Feb 6, 2023 at 8:01 PM, finished with 50 posts and 28 votes.
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    • well lets hope our old god courrpted elemental and the ice lord don't get to many people caught up in their fight
     
    So I think while if you'd gone for Drek'thar, you could have pretty credibly brought him down, in this case I will indeed need to do rolls here:

    Stormpike intervention 72, relatively early
    Drekthar surviving empowerment? 61, enough to give a boost and survive
    FW coop? 21, against Drekthar, concerned etc, helping you against snowman
    Angry Myzrael vs Empowered Lokholar, intitative? 74, Myzrael strikes first, 70, Lokholar responds well
    Kaiju battle, 41, collatoral damage significant but not as bad as it could be
    Stormpike Cannons 89, splendidly, boomboom
    Weakened elemtal brawl, 64, weakening still, but more collateral damage, moving into third phase
    Grok vs Drekthar, 41, poorly, drekthar still active
    more kaiju, 69, still weakning.
    Last effort, 28, simmers out, all parties exhausted, drek thar falls over or something

    Lots of deaths, two exhausted elementals, maybe an avalanche etc
    FractiousDay threw 11 100-faced dice. Reason: D100s Total: 630
    72 72 61 61 21 21 74 74 70 70 41 41 89 89 64 64 41 41 69 69 28 28
     
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    I swear though if this again engineers to make us look like the Bad Guy here, I'm going to lose my mind. There's only so far this kind of meme can go!
     
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