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how is the light progressing in the orcs cause if I recall (might need to reread) some are starting to catch on to what groks thing is and starting to get interest in it
I think they treat it like a shaman thing so a spirit of light.how is the light progressing in the orcs cause if I recall (might need to reread) some are starting to catch on to what groks thing is and starting to get interest in it
One of them is of course his people's legacy of serving the burning legion.
I'll be discussing more of this as we go on, and we've had stuff like him asking Sesk and Haomarush, both Fel Orcs, why they ended up like thatHe fully never understood it but those who were there can tell him and it's helping him understand and chart a course forward.
Possibly. I'd considered bringing various people in but it's difficult for me to meaningfully integrate a decent cast of characters. You've got Sylvannus and Fairbanks, they represent most of what the undead might be thinking about. I'm loathe to include a new character unless just in a name, without having a narrative reason for them to be around.@FractiousDay ever thought of having an OG death knight join Grok?
Shall have a read! I would note however that Grok's leadership as a charismatic military figure is inherently brittle anyway. I want to bring in more populist challengers, like the Blackrock guy from a couple of chapters ago.
Somewhat different as the Orcs went over as a society to the Legion and while they might regret some specifics the creation of the Horde itself was a largely positive force for the Orcs. Comparably, the Cult of the Damned are a cult, not a popular or universal movement.It's actually the interesting thing for Grok to understand of when the transformation of the orcish people was because of Guldan and the shadow council while for the alliance and especially the humans it was Kel Thuzad and his cult of the damned.
Grok is using it, almost none of the Orcs are aware he is, and assume he's just using shaman stuff. Grok's Light manifests as fire for example, which the Orcs are interpreting as the Spirit of Fire and maybe a bit of the Spirit of Life. They're not even thinking that really because they'd not be categorising it like that. Grok has rezzed 20 (I'll need to check) orcs who's eyes were glowing for a bit after he rezzed them, I can bring them back in potentially as some people who want to feel that feeling of the Light again, and Grok considering whether to teach them etc. We'll be having a major intervention/inquisition by the Silver Hand ni the chapter after next though, so it'll come up more.how is the light progressing in the orcs cause if I recall (might need to reread) some are starting to catch on to what groks thing is and starting to get interest in it
I find it actually fascinating though the way you wrote it wasn't in a way that acts like Grok or those involved were mired in flagellating self pity.I'll be discussing more of this as we go on, and we've had stuff like him asking Sesk and Haomarush, both Fel Orcs, why they ended up like that
I'm aware it might be tiresome though, so I'm not sure of the utility of the constant meditation on cultural shame etc. It's informed Grok's character, it'll come up a bit, but he's not necessarily seriously investigating it. The last chapter had him coming to terms more with why people follow the Fel, that's a distinct new realisation and character growth from when he was younger and had this awkward disregard for the Fel but had to publically respect warlocks etc.
Besides being more of the people involved in the past wars it's someone who's more versed in shadow magic besides being an OG death knight.There's also the question of what narrative significace they could serve. This isn't only a resourcing issue on my part of keeping track of them, but why would I need one when I could use someone like Sesk or Haomarush, people who took power in war and are now monsterous? Or Feldad, or various others. There are people I need to integrate, including a character in the next chapter who I'm throwing in so you have a wizard you can actually trust rather than Zaruk the dodgy Twilight's Hammer guy.
The Legion had all the time to convert an entire people while in Azeroth they only had time to convert nations whether through the cult or undeath which can be debated from certain questionable points of view to be deemed positively too. Lordaeron got the brunt of it which reminds me but their population is like really fucked right?Somewhat different as the Orcs went over as a society to the Legion and while they might regret some specifics the creation of the Horde itself was a largely positive force for the Orcs. Comparably, the Cult of the Damned are a cult, not a popular or universal movement.
Didn't thought of it that way but also true when it's notDanrothan at the helm but the cult's origins had the same intention as the horde and also the scarlets when Balthasar hijacked it. Get pawns for the eventual corruption of Azeroth.I feel the scarlet crusade is more like what the legion did to the orks, get leaders who can do what they want (instead they became the leaders)
the cult is more get rich asshole to ship grain
It kinda is. I am more of a proponent of practical changes through choice. The previous policies may have been wrong of have gone in undesirable ways, sure, but what is the lesson to take from it? Not a lesson one gets in their head by contemplating their navel, but a lesson one implements into the structure he is in charge of.I'm aware it might be tiresome though, so I'm not sure of the utility of the constant meditation on cultural shame etc.
Your expression was all the question that was needed and he revealed the limb. The flesh, scaled like his other hand, ended at the elbow and instead you saw a strange construct of demonic energies and dark metal the fingers twice as long as they might ordinarily be like the claws of a dragon.
"The Hand of Iruxos." your father explained, "I mastered it with great sacrifice." and his voice had an air of melancholy to it.
That must explain it.Instead your gaze turned to the black chains that seemed to be being drawn into the portal, floating in the air and bobbing about, drawn twitching by unknown currents, as if caught in a spectral wind.
"We know at least what happened to the humans." Sesk said.
Indeed, you had seen it too, blackened skeletons piled at the portal's foot. Obviously it hadn't been enough, you could feel the energies of the gate fading away somewhat, the sacrifice insufficient for whatever connection the warlocks had aimed to make.
"Your will, Warchief?" Haomarush asked, "You forbade sacrifices, will it be death for them?"
The warlocks had seemingly slain their own allies, renegade mages and sorcerers from the Syndicate's ranks. That did not strictly go against the writs you'd issued to your orcs to not molest or trouble the humans, and the specific instructions you'd given Haomarush and the Demonsword to forbid their previous practice of sacrifice. It was a pedantic question though.
Seeing Grok thinking about what he's going to tell his father and being anxious shows that for all he's grow there's still the Grok that started the quest within.What would you tell him? Much had happened and there was much to tell. Most recently you'd received reports that the Gilneans had failed to establish a proper foundry at Snowgate with the exile engineers and gunsmiths of their kingdom, or that you held dominion over Alterac and had expanded recently to take most of Silverpine Forest. Would your father be interested in that? Perhaps not, but it would be well to concentrate on your broader position in Lordaeron and the invitation the Kul Tirans had given you to visit Boralus, their capital?
Grok seems really happy to see his fatehr.Then you see him.
A figure stands on the other side of the portal. He is changed, mutated, a dark shape with shadows around him like two great wings.
But he is your father and you know him as soon as you see him.
With a final incantation, Neeru Fireblade, Chief of the Burning Blade, makes the portal strong. The world shimmers around you as you step through, barely feeling the transition of thousands of miles as you cross the world.
"Father…" you say, all thought of your reports forgotten, "I'm glad to see you."
Fel Dad has become more badass since Grok left.He raises his head. He seems bigger somehow, and you realise that yes, there's more bulk to him in addition to the more elaborate robes he now wears. There is gold and precious stones of fel energies embroidered in his robes, which now rises over a dozen bony spikes that crown his great shoulders and stand over an elaborate crimson mantle that makes him seem twice as wide as he is.
But his eyes grab you. They burn with power, tightly controlled and intense, a terrible gleam over them as they stare into your soul.
Looks like Fel Dad is proud.Then in a swift step you father has his arm around you, embracing you close.
You breath into his shoulder, returning the embrace instinctively, unsure of where to put your hands as your wrists bump into his bone spikes as they erupt from his back. He smells of ash and fire, but you feel his claws holding you close.
"My son." he breathes in a voice rich with emotion.
Grok is still someone who really wants and appreciates his father's approval.Your father made a vague gesture with his hand, "I don't care. You are well, you are strong, you are all that I might have hoped you would be. That is what matters." and then he drew himself up to stand straight, gripping his hand into a fist at his breast, "Hail then, Grok'mash Fireblade, Blademaster."
You blinked furiously, for he had thrust to your heart in as deadly a way as Alexandros Mograine had when he slew you with the Ashbringer.
It had been a formal greeting, and it shamed you to have only remembered to return it as formally after a few moments of embarrassed silence. It was a gift from your father, and you received it well.
Naru isn't really interested in the Light so Grok being able to use it is more a curiosity but he has proven that he's badass with it's help.You hastened to oblige. You spoke of the Scarlet Crusade, of the Demon Seed which your father had intrigued with the Dreadlord, Varimathras, to use to spirit the Forsaken away. You spoke of the battles against the Scourge, summarising months into a few sentences. You spoke of Naxxramas, of the duel with the Four Horsemen and your call to the Light.
The revelation that you were the first Orc in history to wield the Holy Light was met without significant reaction from your father. "Hm." he grunted, and it was more a noise of mild surprise than of amazement, as if you had merely told him you had seen a strange bird somewhere.
We're going to be seeing Naru's reaction to all this soon."There are captains calling me 'Warchief' openly." you reported, "The Alliance seems to be treating me as one, and I can't see a way to stop it because the Warchief Rend has already decided I'm an enemy and seeks to subvert my warriors. Oh, and some are going about saying 'Galtak Ered'nash' and I don't know why. An infiltrator has influenced them in some way, but I've no love for the Fel so I don't know why they say it to me because I've made my thoughts clear on it."
It all seemed to come out in a rush, your anxieties, your hopes, your desires and your fears. You glossed over many things, coming back to them in your narrative out of order and you feared forgetting some essential point that might serve to better inform your father in some way, but eventually you fell silent, trailing off and taking a deep breath to centre yourself as you waited for your father's response.
You've come along way from ragefire chasm, pops.A figure stands on the other side of the portal. He is changed, mutated, a dark shape with shadows around him like two great wings.
But he is your father and you know him as soon as you see him.
With a final incantation, Neeru Fireblade, Chief of the Burning Blade, makes the portal strong. The world shimmers around you as you step through, barely feeling the transition of thousands of miles as you cross the world.
"Father…" you say, all thought of your reports forgotten, "I'm glad to see you."
The light is poor in Desolace, the sun is barely peeking through roiling dark clouds coming out of the east, but you see him still.
He raises his head. He seems bigger somehow, and you realise that yes, there's more bulk to him in addition to the more elaborate robes he now wears. There is gold and precious stones of fel energies embroidered in his robes, which now rises over a dozen bony spikes that crown his great shoulders and stand over an elaborate crimson mantle that makes him seem twice as wide as he is.
BESTDAD FELDADBut his eyes grab you. They burn with power, tightly controlled and intense, a terrible gleam over them as they stare into your soul.
Then in a swift step you father has his arm around you, embracing you close.
You breath into his shoulder, returning the embrace instinctively, unsure of where to put your hands as your wrists bump into his bone spikes as they erupt from his back. He smells of ash and fire, but you feel his claws holding you close.
"My son." he breathes in a voice rich with emotion.
Would be interesting to see if he has any take at all on the tech-base acquiring with the humans. Or if he's totally uninterested/unable to see the value. The details of our dominion probably aren't relevant but you should touch on them anyway just in case. The political positions definitely, how you might turn human kingdoms into allies. Because you're a warchief now Grok . This is all gonna come out as a stream of consciousness ramble, at this rate.What would you tell him? Much had happened and there was much to tell. Most recently you'd received reports that the Gilneans had failed to establish a proper foundry at Snowgate with the exile engineers and gunsmiths of their kingdom, or that you held dominion over Alterac and had expanded recently to take most of Silverpine Forest. Would your father be interested in that? Perhaps not, but it would be well to concentrate on your broader position in Lordaeron and the invitation the Kul Tirans had given you to visit Boralus, their capital?
We're a long way from a naval tradition. We must acquire more Kul Tirans. Also I love that us and our lads can trash some Vrykul, sure they're on difficult terrain and disadvantaged, still awesome to imagine.You did not like to think of that trip. To one so attuned to the elements of Earth and Fire, sea travel had been as alien to you as when you'd first started to train Azanoth in aerial warfare. The voyage had been mercifully short though, you'd marched five hundred orcs down to Southshore and took ship with the Kul Tirans. Though suspicious, Lord Waycrest's seal was on your papers and they dropped you off a few leagues from an encampment of Vrykul squatting in the hills of Stormsong Valley. The battle had been short and simple, you had called on Myzrael to shake the earth and darted forward, your warriors sure-footed while the Vrykul stumbled about. You'd only taken a few losses while all the Vrykul were killed, bravely fighting to the death, even after you took their leader's head.
"MY SO CALLED RUNT BECAME A BLADEMASTER WARCHIEF, EVERYTHING ELSE CAN GET FUCKED FOR DOUBTING US EVER."Your father made a vague gesture with his hand, "I don't care. You are well, you are strong, you are all that I might have hoped you would be. That is what matters." and then he drew himself up to stand straight, gripping his hand into a fist at his breast, "Hail then, Grok'mash Fireblade, Blademaster."
God I love it when Feldad pulls out quest items. I hope he pursued this specifically for its portal abilities.Your expression was all the question that was needed and he revealed the limb. The flesh, scaled like his other hand, ended at the elbow and instead you saw a strange construct of demonic energies and dark metal the fingers twice as long as they might ordinarily be like the claws of a dragon.
"The Hand of Iruxos." your father explained, "I mastered it with great sacrifice." and his voice had an air of melancholy to it.
"You've taken wounds, I see." your father said, brushing one claw across your cheek, then looking at the long scars on your limbs and torso from the battles of the last few years. "But you've survived, and that's what's important."
Hey pal, it's that light that let us survive our most grievous wounds. It's got its own shine, compared to the twisting-nether or the fel or whatever, father.The revelation that you were the first Orc in history to wield the Holy Light was met without significant reaction from your father. "Hm." he grunted, and it was more a noise of mild surprise than of amazement, as if you had merely told him you had seen a strange bird somewhere.
Remember what I said about rambling? But it's good enough Grok.It all seemed to come out in a rush, your anxieties, your hopes, your desires and your fears. You glossed over many things, coming back to them in your narrative out of order and you feared forgetting some essential point that might serve to better inform your father in some way, but eventually you fell silent, trailing off and taking a deep breath to centre yourself as you waited for your father's response.
Absolutely, and really it's a disadvantage for us probably, but god I love it.Grok is still someone who really wants and appreciates his father's approval.
TELL US THE OLD WORDS, POPS!
Not only that but he'll happily use the lives of his own clan and others to make sure Grok's fortune keeps rising."MY SO CALLED RUNT BECAME A BLADEMASTER WARCHIEF, EVERYTHING ELSE CAN GET FUCKED FOR DOUBTING US EVER."
your right it could help the scarlets good reason to not do that/jkA visit to the Kul Tiras capital is probably warranted. Lessening of hostilities beside with the horde it would be actual assistance towards the Scarlets.
At the current situation, the Scarlets are getting hammered and need breathing room. Tirion among them is also getting PTSD from all the death and radical solutions Danrothan is pulling with sanctified light notundead.your right it could help the scarlets good reason to not do that/jk
more serious what we need is kul tiras to become less hostile to orcs will be helpful but well will have to see how our helping them effects things
I think it's genuine once Grok proved himself to Feldad by taking the blame for Dreadmist Peak. Everything else was his investment on Grok's ascension to blademaster and more.Why you got to tease me like this dude. Shit man right when feldad was going to put down some of the most diabolical commentary ever on Grok's adventures. Great chapter dude. Just love everything about this. The nuance of the fel, the changing world. I want to believe that feldad is genuine in how much he cares for his son but I just feel like he is going to betray Grok sometime soon.
It better, because I certainly don't have anything resembling a long-term plan that is more than just a list of 'things I'd like to see/have'.It should evoke feelings of interest and give an idea of where the quest might be going.
Hm, indeed. I wonder what's with the lackluster reaction. Too strange to fit in with his existing schemes?The revelation that you were the first Orc in history to wield the Holy Light was met without significant reaction from your father. "Hm." he grunted, and it was more a noise of mild surprise than of amazement, as if you had merely told him you had seen a strange bird somewhere.
That got a laugh out of me, considering who it is Grok is complaining to. I can almost hear Neeru's mental struggle, 'Should I help him put more points towards Intrigue, or is he already perfect the way he is?'Oh, and some are going about saying 'Galtak Ered'nash' and I don't know why. An infiltrator has influenced them in some way, but I've no love for the Fel so I don't know why they say it to me because I've made my thoughts clear on it.
Also, this is before we converted the Dragonmaw prisoners to our cause, right? This is a scene I'd like to see first hand. I know what motivates Grok's lieutenants, and I an imagine what they tell the grunts to ensure their loyalty, but this is not how Grok does things. I want to see how he turns people he just fought to his cause, and possibly against the one they considered their Warchief just a few months ago. Does what he say resonate with people, or are there other factors at work?It would be well, you supposed, to discuss the Dragonmaw and your battles with Rend's Horde. You desperately needed your father's counsel on that matter, for you would not break with the structure of your clan or call his leadership into question, no matter how your captains tried to persuade you.
I huff hopium daily that Feldad has thrown off the shackles of poor leadership and is carving his own path like us. With us.I think it's genuine once Grok proved himself to Feldad by taking the blame for Dreadmist Peak. Everything else was his investment on Grok's ascension to blademaster and more.
Everything else is the accumulation of power and more for his son as the future chief and blademaster legacy.
I'd say his own childhood from Draenor to Orgimmar aided his decision making and their leaders especially Gul' dan.