Those dragon riders weren't done willingly. Ysera's was.
Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)
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I'm specifically talking about dragon riders as a rarity.
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I would draw a distinction here between airforces and just people flying about on things. I think I've remarked on this before, but while there are aeiral forces, this is differnet from an 'airforce'.
The Night Elves, for example, have aerial units like their monsters, druids and riders.
However, none of these are specialist military units. Their riders are random sentinels who have made friends with an animal and climbed on it's back to use it as a flying mount. They aren't a professional military they're doing the 'high competence militia' thing elves commonly do.
Ironforge and Stormwind would be the only factions to currently have such a force, as well as the more organised beast races like the Blacks etc.
The who? I hope this is a typo.
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The Blacks, the Black Dragonflight, the Black Dragons.
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I think this is talking about the black dragonflight who are the allied with the dark horde and some members like rend have dragon mounts (some like the dragonmaw just enslave the black and red dragonflights)
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Also closing voting so will roll etc.
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Rolls
Koshharg responses
Faction formation for unaligned people
Blackrock Old Guard 21, split between Tagorr's conservatism and Jed's radical stance to support Warchief Grok
New Clan Radicals 42, maintain their status, able to push back against some clan stuff
Frostwolf Isolationists 83, Gol'dir doing some very fast talking
Burning Blade Loyalists 81, Grok exerting significant organic influence
Crowley selling the ideas to Silverpine, 13 poorly. Enforcing authority with Shatterskull? 38, fairly poor, exposes some of the issues. Bloodier than one might like.
Jed with teh trolls 31, not interested, trying again later? 86, careful diplomacy and maybe a few threats, Winteraxe gained, eastern moutains settled
Leading the Breakers, discovering new Dark Shamanism ideas? 70, comfortable pass, various reserach avenues developed
New Blademasters, new ones acclimatising? 80, comfortable pass, all aspirants promoted. Old ones getting in on the ideas? 50, not entirely with your gameplan yet.
Dalaran actions
Tol Barad, vs Svarnos 26, damaging losses taken, Svarnos retreats, vs Occu'thar 52, defeated with losses , diplo vs Argaloth 50, not fully sold, peaceful or violent resolution? violent, binding? 13, unsuccessful, dismissed to the Twisting Nether.
Violet Hold, Diplo with Lord Malgath, 96, recruited, diplo with Loramus Thalipedes, 42, not itnerested. diplo with Ichoron 35, binding? 100, natural crit! Alleigance to Old Gods replaced! , fighting vs Zuramat the Obliterator, 5 going very poorly, +Kirin Tor reinforcements? 15 still not good. Final effort? 63, dismissed with losses. vs Lavanthor autowin, no one is messing about.
Forsaken Prisoners, diplo to get them to chill 24, Intervention? Who is it? B v F, is Fairbanks with an 86 to lead them to the promised land.
Diplo with Dalaran considering you've cleared Tol Barad and the Violet Hold, but alos gotten quite a lot of people killed and done a lot of damage? 23, do not like you. Bare minimum of promised support.
Fairbanks Diplo with silver hand 88, mostly onside even before the inquisition
Dreadlord hiding 67, passed, no suspiscion
Thousands of orcs helping the Crusade, is it decisive? 98, very, Scrouge pushed out
Alliance engagement with the Koshharg? 32, poor at the moment, only fringe people
Koshharg responses
Faction formation for unaligned people
Blackrock Old Guard 21, split between Tagorr's conservatism and Jed's radical stance to support Warchief Grok
New Clan Radicals 42, maintain their status, able to push back against some clan stuff
Frostwolf Isolationists 83, Gol'dir doing some very fast talking
Burning Blade Loyalists 81, Grok exerting significant organic influence
Crowley selling the ideas to Silverpine, 13 poorly. Enforcing authority with Shatterskull? 38, fairly poor, exposes some of the issues. Bloodier than one might like.
Jed with teh trolls 31, not interested, trying again later? 86, careful diplomacy and maybe a few threats, Winteraxe gained, eastern moutains settled
Leading the Breakers, discovering new Dark Shamanism ideas? 70, comfortable pass, various reserach avenues developed
New Blademasters, new ones acclimatising? 80, comfortable pass, all aspirants promoted. Old ones getting in on the ideas? 50, not entirely with your gameplan yet.
Dalaran actions
Tol Barad, vs Svarnos 26, damaging losses taken, Svarnos retreats, vs Occu'thar 52, defeated with losses , diplo vs Argaloth 50, not fully sold, peaceful or violent resolution? violent, binding? 13, unsuccessful, dismissed to the Twisting Nether.
Violet Hold, Diplo with Lord Malgath, 96, recruited, diplo with Loramus Thalipedes, 42, not itnerested. diplo with Ichoron 35, binding? 100, natural crit! Alleigance to Old Gods replaced! , fighting vs Zuramat the Obliterator, 5 going very poorly, +Kirin Tor reinforcements? 15 still not good. Final effort? 63, dismissed with losses. vs Lavanthor autowin, no one is messing about.
Forsaken Prisoners, diplo to get them to chill 24, Intervention? Who is it? B v F, is Fairbanks with an 86 to lead them to the promised land.
Diplo with Dalaran considering you've cleared Tol Barad and the Violet Hold, but alos gotten quite a lot of people killed and done a lot of damage? 23, do not like you. Bare minimum of promised support.
Fairbanks Diplo with silver hand 88, mostly onside even before the inquisition
Dreadlord hiding 67, passed, no suspiscion
Thousands of orcs helping the Crusade, is it decisive? 98, very, Scrouge pushed out
Alliance engagement with the Koshharg? 32, poor at the moment, only fringe people
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this is gonna be interesting wonder what diplo with a pitlord will be like after all their blood is what turned the orcs into what they are when they drank manerthoths blood and it is shown that its any pitlords blood that can do this with magtheridan with the fel horde.
edit - I hope that nat 100 isn't for the dreadlord
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While there are other Pitlords, this one in particular was rightly suspicious and it turned into a fight.
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wait did we get a water spirit I seem to recall this is one
if so we must find fire and air and become the avatar for when the world needs them most they will appear for only they can bend all 4 elements (sorry had to)
also we got winteraxe trolls now which might allow us to diplo with frost king malak of gunduk up in northrend since while the winteraxe are not part of his sphere they are ice trolls he might be willing to listen unlike in cannon where he joined up with the resurgent zandarlari faction led by zul and was all no outsiders allowed
wait inquisition wonder whats going on with the sliverhand to be having problems with the scarlets inqusition
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They sorta had one but Death wing killed them all.
Looking at the rolls ouch but a mixed bag of getting a lot of objectives done except for demon busting.
Grok has also absorbed the Winteraxe into the new horde.
Getting control of demons was in fairness 50/50 but we got like two under our pocket?
Wait looking it's actually a fel orc who's part of the shadow council and a powerful water elemental.
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guy heard burning blade and thought well guess my allies came to help
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
So, looking at the mercenary/diplo offers we took.
So, we took some pretty heavy losses in Dalaran, which very much concerns me, since even if we got a lot of reinforcements, we really can't afford to be bleeding Orcs in huge numbers, and Dalaran isn't actually happy with our work. As a silver lining, we do seem to have recruited a pretty powerful Fel Orc warlock, and bound a powerful Water Elemental (that's probably gonna have synergy with our work on the Breakers.) But overall, this feels like it's going to be a pyrrhic victory.
Lordaeron/Scarlet Crusade on the other hand, that went really well. Major material support for Alterac seems just like what we need, moreso if the rewards will be extended to include some of the Lordaeron rewards like overall diplomatic recognition (and maybe transfer of Hillsbarad?)
Still, the losses we likely took at Dalaran really concerns me. We don't have enough Orcs or ability to easily replace the ones we lose to keep taking big casualties.
The Dalaran assistance we got was about rare and magical artifacts. I assume they just shoved something into our hands and told us to go away. Maybe if things with the Breakers keep going well and they hear news they might be reluctantly willing to cooperate further just because there's knowledge to be gained.
So, we took some pretty heavy losses in Dalaran, which very much concerns me, since even if we got a lot of reinforcements, we really can't afford to be bleeding Orcs in huge numbers, and Dalaran isn't actually happy with our work. As a silver lining, we do seem to have recruited a pretty powerful Fel Orc warlock, and bound a powerful Water Elemental (that's probably gonna have synergy with our work on the Breakers.) But overall, this feels like it's going to be a pyrrhic victory.
Lordaeron/Scarlet Crusade on the other hand, that went really well. Major material support for Alterac seems just like what we need, moreso if the rewards will be extended to include some of the Lordaeron rewards like overall diplomatic recognition (and maybe transfer of Hillsbarad?)
Still, the losses we likely took at Dalaran really concerns me. We don't have enough Orcs or ability to easily replace the ones we lose to keep taking big casualties.
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Dalaran reaction is low due to the heavy losses. I think we got a bunch of the Dalaran garrisons killed in the fighting. And as a city state, they have manpower issues just like us.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that they're angry at us and so are only giving us the bare minimum reward and won't be particularly eager to engage in any future cooperation.
And I assume that Grok had a lot of Orcs accompanying him for dealing with the Tol Barad and Violet Hold breakouts, who presumably also took heavy casualties in the fighting. And we don't have a reliable way of replacing casualties or really mitigating them when we go on these sorts of missions. We just take the mission and whatever casualties happen, happen, and we just have to accept the losses that can't be replaced unless we find another one of the very finite amount of Orc warbands in Azeroth that can be convinced or coerced into joining up.
Our numbers have managed to keep increasing in spite of that, but I'm worried about how much longer that can be kept up, since we seem to be just about out of big, low-hanging fruit for that. Hopefully we can change that with the organization of the Breakers and Blademasters to act as force-multipliers to reduce our raw Orc casualties.
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Pretty happy with the outcomes. Especially the 80 on our aspirants. BLADEMASTERS ASCENDANT. FULL CASTERS AND FULL MARTIALS ABOUT TO BE BTFO, SHOWN ERROR OF WAYS.
A BLADE, A BLADE, ABRILLIANT BURNING BLADE.
Even if the Dalaran was kind of fudged we did just get anotherlegendary pokemon powerful elemental. And Fairbanks came in clutch, twice.
A BLADE, A BLADE, A
Even if the Dalaran was kind of fudged we did just get another
If things go well we can finish making the airforce and do more industry stuff or actually do some diplomacy starting with Kul Tiras?
Can you tease me with the results?
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He wasn't lying lmao.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Looking at Zuramat:
EDIT: Hmm, Lord Malgath in the game has something called "The Fel Lexicon." Which apparently has stuff on the language of Eredun. Wonder if we'll be able to make any use of it if Malgath has joined us.
Yep. Breaking news: Voidlord with title of "The Obliterator" is really good at obliterating his opponents.
EDIT: Hmm, Lord Malgath in the game has something called "The Fel Lexicon." Which apparently has stuff on the language of Eredun. Wonder if we'll be able to make any use of it if Malgath has joined us.
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