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Fair.
Get sleeps, don't be an idiot like me and stay up till 3:30.
I deeply regret my decisions.
Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)
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Get sleeps, don't be an idiot like me and stay up till 3:30.
I deeply regret my decisions.
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On minders, no, but you have Darion to liaise. Through him you're informed about stuff like potential targets. The Crusade atm are chilling for a bit and reorganising after taking Tirasfal, you'll get more orders in a couple of turns and a target etc.
On Fairbanks, while it would be highly amusing for me to let you make the mistake, keep in mind he's not one of the Forsaken. He was, and to a large part remains, a member of the Crusade. He's trying to redeem the Forsaken but if he knew about more he'd go grab them.
Yes
What's the plan with this? Get human tower shields which would be normal shields for orcs, and therefore basically scavenging a slight defence boost, or is it getting the sort of thing vark was doing as shields for ablative armour, which will resist magic etc?
It's not urgent no, but it would be polite. If someone sends you a invite it's rude to ignore them for 6 weeks because you want to do something else. The diplomacy action is to talk to various people, if you want to talk to Ony+Waycrest you can, if you just want to talk to Waycrest you can, if you want to talk to ony, waycrest, Brann and Bolvar you can. It's a broad talking action.
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Extrapolating from that
1. We can probably requisition things and its relatively safe to do so without going for more targets.
2. However we're not high on the priority list for a lot of things, so if we want more stuff we need to do things.
I assumed it was only the one person because of how the action was worded.
If we can do both Waycrest and Ony then yes absolutely do that.
Potentially rather awkward mind, but **** it.
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huh, well I put ' Indicate which parties your want to talk to.' there so I suppose that could indicate one person, but no, any of them. Somewhat relates to how actions work, some stuff is actually a week's effort, some stuff is just a single day presented etc.
You did arrive pretty recently. Dathrohan is a pretty subtle guy, for example one reason he might be maintaining Tirion as a non-Scarlet is to assuage the Lordaeron loyalists, but in this case he could also be balancing your potential with the various strategic considerations he has.
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I wasn't attempting to imply otherwise, I just worried I might have carried that tone if you thought my question warranted changing your plan. It would seem I was at least a bit right, no?
On the basis that I read the available plans and found his plan to be better?
First off, we didn't go through anything, you presumably posted about why you felt his plan didn't work, I dont rightly care. Second, I'm not required to justify why I chose any other plan over yours, but if you keep this petulance up I might just start voting against you out of spite instead of any measurement of merit your plan may or may not have.
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And I would like to know why and what you found disagreeable about my plan so I can change it.
"I prefer it" has never been especially informative.
First, maybe I made an incorrect assumption that you were there for that particular thing, they were after all on a page where you commented and were involved in the discussion. My apologies then for thinking to much of your engagement.
Second yes I have would you please do the same about mine and his. I want to know your logic! This is meant to be a cooperative experience its rather hard to try that when you immediately jump to threatening me, twice now. I assume I can't point that out, you trying to essentially silence me for daring to ask you a very basic question.
No no I should just shut the fuck up.
Third I am not being petulant I want to know what you want! How dare I it seems to try and know your preferences.
Fourth don't bother threatening me with something you are already plainly doing.
Edit: You want to know the doubly ironic part, with clarification given I'm actually likely going to vote for the same plan you are, a few minor tweeks suggested, but they're already things that got stuck into the newer version of the plan.
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[X] Plan **** it all MK2
I am enjoying reading the quest so far.
Time to get swole, although I am a tad concerned with throwing our troops into the meat grinder that the Field of Tears sounds like it will be. But that may be my unfamiliarity with WoW. It does however, fit into the overarching goal of finding out what's going on with the Scourge and Jubei'this, by investigating these sites.
I am enjoying reading the quest so far.
Time to get swole, although I am a tad concerned with throwing our troops into the meat grinder that the Field of Tears sounds like it will be. But that may be my unfamiliarity with WoW. It does however, fit into the overarching goal of finding out what's going on with the Scourge and Jubei'this, by investigating these sites.
Get some units that can function as a tank.
You make it much easier then. I am a bit right on the mark.
Errr.... it was never what I intended. I was in the mood to slap a lot of plans I didn't expect to win but to see it cannibalised.I wasn't attempting to imply otherwise, I just worried I might have carried that tone if you thought my question warranted changing your plan. It would seem I was at least a bit right, no?
Very blunt of you. Not that's not allowed.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 5 and get the warband bleeding more for the war effort.
-[X] Wandering child, lost, in pain, confused and afraid
-[X] Fields of Tears
-[X] Requisition
--[X] The warband has shed orcish blood for the Scarlet Crusade to earn their trust so it's time for them to provide aid if the warband is to continue their fight:
1. Healers especially from the light enough to support a warband of 100 orcs.
2. Armor the Scarlet Crusade can spare for the warband especially for Vark's towershield units.
3. Vark was noted to use a tower shield. Get Vark and part of the warband interested in joining Vark to form a special unit in the warband with towershields.
4. Darion needs some of his people with him. See if he can get volunteers interested in tagging along with him when the warband will continue fighting. He might feel uncomfortable being the only human in Grok's warband (cashing in unknowingly on the son of the wielder of the Ashbringer and founding member of the Silver Hand)
5. More magic support like these Arcanists Grok sometimes hears about but not the most important priority to the warband but would be nice to have.
6. Grok noted he needs a side weapon when his current one is too big in tight areas like a cave. See if the the requisition can sort that out so the warband has the means to also get it.
7. Anything else his companions have an interest in possibly getting to upgrade their equipment.
-[X] Scholarship
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X] Posture
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
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mmm I like this, it'll be perfect if we swap the fields of tears to something else.
My desire to keep up momentum was predicated on the crusade moving into the plague lands now hence why they burned down Brill etc.
Since we've apparently got a turn or two we can get everything we want.
Only thing I'd want is to get the blademaster training in, but we can't do that since 2 actions so better to put off until next turn when we start campaigning again and hopefully reap the benefits.
Swap could be for training action to integrate what we got, as you wanted to do earlier.
Minor suggestion, but it maybe best to try and combine Bran and Prestor, since she supposedly wants to talk with us about Orc history which is right up Bran's ally.
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Training as much as I want it on logical reasons can be put off if the results presented before have made the warband "trained" enough unless it's more specific.
Requisition as you and Fractious said did general integration.
Doesn't hurt to try with a little wording to naturally mix it in. I think I can include Bolvar too. For the continuation of talking Orcish history and maybe their own.
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Actually the training I wanted to suggest was cross training with the Scarlet Crusade.
You know, the ABCs of this is what we do, this is what you do, this means X this means Y, how to recognise us.
Cause at the moment I'm very worried that even before anything else if we end up fighting on the same front along side a bunch of humans we may end up accidentally colliding anyway, not out of malice, but the simple fact of fighting being confusing at the best of times and even more so when you don't speak the same languages.
It'd also be a good way to get good boy points showing that we're preparing alongside the rest of them and integrating more with the "common folk" of the crusade instead of staying off to the side or only around the leadership.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 5 and get the warband bleeding more for the war effort.
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Oh that yeah. I was advocating that before I forgot about it.
Then if it's possible for diplomacy I'd also bring some companions along if only to make the history appointment more interesting for everyone involved. I'm sure many of them would love to give their side or at least hear the human and dwarf's side.
Getting Vok'fon who's a troll can provide troll history. The shadow magic expert can be the link to including what Ner Zhul was up to. Kartha as the intel spy would love some of that human cultural history. Grok's equerry can come because it's good for his internship.
I'll edit requisition again because when I get asked on the tower shields by Fractious I don't exactly had a good answer to it.
The best way I think is to tailor requisition to the posturing action when everyone important has their input on what they want if they can get it on mail order as a possibility.
If diplomacy can be such a critical success it might net more volunteers to the warband because the right figures endorsed the warband.
Posturing too might yield greater success in getting more than just volunteers. A few bureaucratic loopholes and the requisitions officer could get the orcish prisoners added to the warband.
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Yeah, I think that's defo the best way to go about it.
He's also very interested in Troll history and it can hopefully his interest could foster his connection with Brann. Ironically they're both quite similar in that regard looking for the history of their respective peoples, Vok in the old empires Brann in the earthen.
I'd be cautious of bringing shadow magic man, especially since his shadow magic doesn't come from Ner'zhul (and all the other things.) His best thing would be for providing context to Gul'dan and why he was a bad evil man.
Yeah it would be good for Darion to give him some of that good multiculturalism.
Few interesting points, but I wonder if this will get Brann thinking of a common origin for orcs and many Azeroth races (descendents of titan creatures) assuming he knows about them at this point.
Tower shields would have to be prioritised if we really want them, or emphasised that we only want a couple and we can do things like provide trees?
I think that's what prisoners is for, posturing is more us discussing what we're doing etc. Prisoners and diplomacy might yield a system of automatically sending orcs to us though. Hopefully we could get it expanded to horde prisoners in general.
Let me go do another plan and we'll see what it looks like first.
I do know what happens in posturing will affect requisition.
And then there's the battle. I truly don't know
If the battle can be postponed to be replaced back to training or some other action like prisoners on the safe side.
It might also net the warband more than just orcs. Maybe trolls or other prisoners interested in joining.
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Oh dear.
I am now in the strange position of arguing against my own plan.
Would either of you two be alright we me making most of the changes worked out with me and @rx915 up to getting rid of the field of tears?
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We don't need to investigate these sites right now, we can train the warband for 1 turn (which is not much in terms of "wasted" time) and then face the more difficult battles with better resources (a healer, a tower shields' unit, climbing harpoons).
And we can recruit the Orc prisoners to replenish our numbers, too.
I would like to investigate the mysterious lights, but admittedly there are so many things that it's low priority.
And we can recruit the Orc prisoners to replenish our numbers, too.
I would like to investigate the mysterious lights, but admittedly there are so many things that it's low priority.
Sorry my brain went to mush. It's not as well thought out in writing. I took out the option of what Grok sensed when I did not consider who wants to sense what. I didn't include the climbing harpoons because it wasn't in my plan yet. Can do later.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 7 and get the warband bleeding more for the war effort.
-[X] Fields of Tears
-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to access the Crusade's resources to aid them. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts?
-[X] Requisition
--[X] Take what's recommended in Posture action.
1. Healers especially from the light enough to support a warband of 100 orcs.
2. Armor the Scarlet Crusade can spare for the warband especially for Vark's towershield units.
3. Vark was noted to use a tower shield. Get Vark and part of the warband interested in joining Vark to form a special unit in the warband with towershields.
4. Darion needs some of his people with him. See if he can get volunteers interested in tagging along with him when the warband will continue fighting. He might feel uncomfortable being the only human in Grok's warband (cashing in unknowingly on the son of the wielder of the Ashbringer and founding member of the Silver Hand)
5. More magic support like these Arcanists Grok sometimes hears about but not the most important priority to the warband but would be nice to have.
6. Grok noted he needs a side weapon when his current one is too big in tight areas like a cave. See if the the requisition can sort that out so the warband has the means to also get it.
7. Anything else his companions have an interest in possibly getting to upgrade their equipment.
-[X] Scholarship
--[X] Prepare for the diplomatic meeting to learn as much as you can with your neighbours with what you got.
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 8 and rebuild for the fight later with prisoners
-[X] Training
--[X] Train according to the results of posture.
--[X] Engage in crosstraining with the Scarlet Crusade to ensure our warband and their army can work together without incident and compliment the other's skills.
-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to get a bigger probability to be allowed access to the Crusade's resources to aid them in continuing the fight against the scourge. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband with additional training or specialisation of new infantry or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts? Does anyone else have ideas they are interested in doing to meet their goals they aim to get as part of the warband.
5. Once everything is decided on the needs of the warband it will affect requisition, diplomacy and training efforts.
6. Bring up the matter of future cooperation with the Scarlet Crusade and their neighbors more closely especially Kul Tiras.
-[X] Requisition
--[X] Take what's recommended in Posture action.
-[X] Scholarship
--[X] Prepare for the diplomatic meeting to learn as much as you can with your neighbours with what you got.
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history. See if you can get Prestor, Fordragon and Bran altogether to continue trading history lessons if they're interested especially if Grok's companions came to also share in it. Should the result be good subtly mention the sacrifices taken to aid the Crusade and request the need for more assistance involving prisoners you heard from Darion being brought from their delegation especially orcs that could be sped fast into joining the warband or the diplomats own backing to join and fight with Darion.
Diplomacy is a fine art to take up when a weapon is better kept in the sheath and the tongue is used instead. Your performance was nothing short of a miracle in laying out a good impression to nations that used to fight the horde under Blackhand and Doomhammer. Knowledge you found was power and wisdom allows such knowledge of a nation's culture and language to be used accordingly which was why revealing your ability to understand and speak the human's language carries both shock and respect once they know a hulking green brute can speak eloquently and answer barbed questions with your own repertoire of responses with people your teacher would have met in Stormwind. And so you see an opportunity with history as the bait to draw all three together as they were interested in your tale so you will oblige Lady Prestor with a cultural exchange of your history and hopefully theirs when the lady of Stormwind keeps mentioning an orc long gone from Draenor. But first where to start from which order once the conference has provided their advice?
Knowing the opening to all three was easy:
1. Prince Brann Bronzebeard of Ironforge. You noticed he and Vok'fon share a history from their exchange of looks at each other. Perhaps you can use that to reel him in with the other two to continue this line of discussion in private.
2. Bolvar Fordragon is simple enough as a knight and general of Stormwind who already recognises your deeds with Tirion and your teacher vouching for you. You just need to share with him your last moments with your teacher since you saw his reaction hearing news of his death.
3. Lady Katrana Prestor is easy and yet hard to predict. You don't know her at all except she's the advisor to the King of Stormwind but she invited you to continue what you said to the delegation. Will she accept more guests together with her to learn history?
If it worked well, maybe you were better off as a diplomat for the horde ha! But now comes the hard part that requires subtlety and tact. A private discussion about history is one thing but to then switch it into more political matters is another. However if your repertoire of words succeed in impressing them all and that of your companions you bring with you perhaps it may lead to something more after all the delegation is here to help Lordaeron against the Scourge and as your warband has contributed perhaps they can be of some help to your own goals? They can through their influence make it easier to release prisoners especially orcish prisoners Darion mentioned to be pressed into your service and for Darion your equerry maybe the three can put in a good word for more volunteers to join the warband to work with Darion?
The matter of the Kul Tiran ambassador is much more simple. You do not expect much of a friendly response when the horde and Kul Tiras is involved with skirmishes with each other that you yourself participated in. But for the sake of courtesy you will give back your war trophies that you don't expect to be much of value in scraps of paper except for personal effects that are obviously more valuable to the family of the deceased you have went over to their ambassador and that will be all. If entry to their ambassador is rebuffed then Bolvar Fordragon who you know is a man of honor can give it back.
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
-[X] Prisoners
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 7 and get the warband bleeding more for the war effort.
-[X] Fields of Tears
-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to access the Crusade's resources to aid them. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
3. Also bring up Grok's intentions to meet with the diplomats and see if they're interested in coming especially your equerry.
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts?
-[X] Requisition
--[X] Take what's recommended in Posture action.
1. Healers especially from the light enough to support a warband of 100 orcs.
2. Armor the Scarlet Crusade can spare for the warband especially for Vark's towershield units.
3. Vark was noted to use a tower shield. Get Vark and part of the warband interested in joining Vark to form a special unit in the warband with towershields.
4. Darion needs some of his people with him. See if he can get volunteers interested in tagging along with him when the warband will continue fighting. He might feel uncomfortable being the only human in Grok's warband (cashing in unknowingly on the son of the wielder of the Ashbringer and founding member of the Silver Hand)
5. More magic support like these Arcanists Grok sometimes hears about but not the most important priority to the warband but would be nice to have.
6. Grok noted he needs a side weapon when his current one is too big in tight areas like a cave. See if the the requisition can sort that out so the warband has the means to also get it.
7. Anything else his companions have an interest in possibly getting to upgrade their equipment.
-[X] Scholarship
--[X] Prepare for the diplomatic meeting to learn as much as you can with your neighbours with what you got.
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
[X] Plan Cannibalise this Mk 8 and rebuild for the fight later with prisoners
-[X] Training
--[X] Train according to the results of posture.
--[X] Engage in crosstraining with the Scarlet Crusade to ensure our warband and their army can work together without incident and compliment the other's skills.
-[X] Posture
--[X] As much as Grok dislikes the arrogance of his father's blademasters they were right. The warband has been bleeding itself tactically in battles that benefitted the goals of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance but not the goals of the warband. It was time for strategy not more battles without preparation which is why it is time for a conference to straighten the matter and make use of your own warriors talents.
During this conference Grok will:
1. Congratulate the warband for their performance so far noting specific examples in the battle of the Mills for facing undead that were worth their reputation as the Scourge which was a farcry from defending themselves from past fights such as against monstrous bats, undead Gnolls at Garren's Haunt or wandering corpses at Solliden while introducing the equerry who will be part of the warband for the duration of their stay in Scarlet Crusader territory.
2. Finish it with the admittance that while losses are expected in a campaign, the current status of the warband means there is now time to reevaluate the warband's future having proved their commitment to the Crusade to get a bigger probability to be allowed access to the Crusade's resources to aid them in continuing the fight against the scourge. Grok will first outline his thoughts about using the resources of the Scarlet Crusade to upgrade and reinforce the warband from his own observations of the warband's weaknesses and possible improvements in previous battles. Outlined as follows:
3. Also bring up Grok's intentions to meet with the diplomats and see if they're interested in coming especially your equerry who you're sure would benefit meeting with such famous figures especially Bolvar Fordragon who as a highly influential paladin and someone who met Grok's teacher Akinos would be curious about Grok's nemesis who's the antithesis of his profession a deathknight. Highlight it's importance in meeting them to possibly use their influence to benefit the warband's goals politically and ask if there's anything interesting they'd want the diplomats to know as part of the cultural exchange.
4. Once your piece is done hear their suggestions. What they think can improve the warband with additional training or specialisation of new infantry or their own desire to learn from what the camp can provide. Surely Kedran has some interest in learning more of the human's arcane arts? Does anyone else have ideas they are interested in doing to meet their goals they aim to get as part of the warband.
5. Once everything is decided on the needs of the warband it will affect requisition, diplomacy and training efforts.
6. Bring up the matter of future cooperation with the Scarlet Crusade and their neighbors more closely especially Kul Tiras.
-[X] Requisition
--[X] Take what's recommended in Posture action.
-[X] Scholarship
--[X] Prepare for the diplomatic meeting to learn as much as you can with your neighbours with what you got.
-[X] Pyre of the Light
-[X]Death Knell (Send Kartha)
-[X] Diplomacy (Give the books back after reading them)
--[X] Talk to them all Prestor for the invitation, Fordragon to talk about Akinos and the death knight which you saw he was shocked about, the Kul Tiran Ambassador to return the books after you have read them and Bran because he and Vok'Fon have had a history. See if you can get Prestor, Fordragon and Bran altogether to continue trading history lessons if they're interested especially if Grok's companions came to also share in it. Should the result be good subtly mention the sacrifices taken to aid the Crusade and request the need for more assistance involving prisoners you heard from Darion being brought from their delegation especially orcs that could be sped fast into joining the warband or the diplomats own backing to join and fight with Darion.
Diplomacy is a fine art to take up when a weapon is better kept in the sheath and the tongue is used instead. Your performance was nothing short of a miracle in laying out a good impression to nations that used to fight the horde under Blackhand and Doomhammer. Knowledge you found was power and wisdom allows such knowledge of a nation's culture and language to be used accordingly which was why revealing your ability to understand and speak the human's language carries both shock and respect once they know a hulking green brute can speak eloquently and answer barbed questions with your own repertoire of responses with people your teacher would have met in Stormwind. And so you see an opportunity with history as the bait to draw all three together as they were interested in your tale so you will oblige Lady Prestor with a cultural exchange of your history and hopefully theirs when the lady of Stormwind keeps mentioning an orc long gone from Draenor. But first where to start from which order once the conference has provided their advice?
Knowing the opening to all three was easy:
1. Prince Brann Bronzebeard of Ironforge. You noticed he and Vok'fon share a history from their exchange of looks at each other. Perhaps you can use that to reel him in with the other two to continue this line of discussion in private.
2. Bolvar Fordragon is simple enough as a knight and general of Stormwind who already recognises your deeds with Tirion and your teacher vouching for you. You just need to share with him your last moments with your teacher since you saw his reaction hearing news of his death.
3. Lady Katrana Prestor is easy and yet hard to predict. You don't know her at all except she's the advisor to the King of Stormwind but she invited you to continue what you said to the delegation. Will she accept more guests together with her to learn history?
If it worked well, maybe you were better off as a diplomat for the horde ha! But now comes the hard part that requires subtlety and tact. A private discussion about history is one thing but to then switch it into more political matters is another. However if your repertoire of words succeed in impressing them all and that of your companions you bring with you perhaps it may lead to something more after all the delegation is here to help Lordaeron against the Scourge and as your warband has contributed perhaps they can be of some help to your own goals? They can through their influence make it easier to release prisoners especially orcish prisoners Darion mentioned to be pressed into your service and for Darion your equerry maybe the three can put in a good word for more volunteers to join the warband to work with Darion?
The matter of the Kul Tiran ambassador is much more simple. You do not expect much of a friendly response when the horde and Kul Tiras is involved with skirmishes with each other that you yourself participated in. But for the sake of courtesy you will give back your war trophies that you don't expect to be much of value in scraps of paper except for personal effects that are obviously more valuable to the family of the deceased you have went over to their ambassador and that will be all. If entry to their ambassador is rebuffed then Bolvar Fordragon who you know is a man of honor can give it back.
-[X] Spend time with Kartha and ask what she's been up to.
-[X] Prisoners
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Oh man.
Hope you're feeling a bit better now.
I am left once again in the strange position of arguing against what I previously argued for, but now I'd rather this be taken out and replaced with cross training with the Scarlet Crusade.
Shows our dedication to helping the crusade and should ameliorate issues like us asking for things and stop things like miscommunications and misapplication of tactics before they happen.
If I cannot convince you, I'd suggest adding in the apothecaries as well.
We might as well since they might help against the plague and if we get samples we can push work for creating a counter agent.
mmm...
He might have heard reports of Jub in the Alterac valley.
I'm ok it's just needing brain power to articulate how I'm going to type the super duper plan which is harder than thinking it like writing fanfic.
You can use my plan and switch out prisoners and edit it a bit. I'm too tired.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Yikes.
Hope you're ok.
And yeah plan making is always way more effort than it feels like it should be.
I will, but not right now.
Basically my only thing is swapping the fields with this.
-[] Training: Train with the Scarlet Crusaders to get your soldiers used to one another, know the others tactics so you can coordinate and to ensure that no mistakes end up happening if and when you end up fighting on the same side. Hopefully, it will build some camaraderie with the Crusaders too.
This is nothing. It's easier than writing an omake that requires more words.
- Location
- United Kingdom
Unnecessarily so IMO. I think in future I may just require votes on each action. Plans are often quite similar so it seems best to me to have it like that.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Depends, but sometimes they can get confusing as hell with or without them.