NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

TheCount · Apr 11, 2023

Well, that was interesting, a real roller coaster too.

Alectai said:
Notably though, something is eating Orthstirr beyond your baseline maximum. And doing so very fast, and Halla explicitly gets Bad Vibes from it.

My first thought was Ygggdrasil, but yeah, that shouldn't give a bad feeling....
Perhaps a dragon?

Alectai said:
Seidr probably deals with external use of the Weave then. Tactical reality edits that let you tweak the Tapestry of Fate around you. Stabilizing Palm for instance prevents you from experiencing Bodily Death, but is powerless against your actual True Death--which is to say, there needs to be actual Tapestry left for you to be mended.

Say, like teleporting a whole felag of steelfathers?

I'm kiiinda curious though, if you can extend your own thread or overtake others....
Not like, getting a Huskary, because that just mean their still distinct threads interwave with yours, support it and make it stand out more, but die other threads in your colours....
Perhaps charred soul gives pattern(s) or highlight(s) to our Character's thread?

Alectai said:
We'll need to be very careful with who we teach the procedure to once we figure out how to actually proceed along that line.

I recommend it stays PC (master race

) exclusive for a time.... At least, until we figure out the step after opening the door.

Also..... Could we doodle on the walls if we can't figure out anything?
It's a place only Halla can see, after all, perfect to fangirl over Abjorn

Also, imagine the reaction of everyone if we have an Abjorn in the nude flexing on our owl cape when we next manifest it

Slickji said:
Hamr 4 got us blackhand (he speaks the first time on the turn we get hamr 4 same turn as witch ritual but he speaks before we enter the witch ritual)

Hamr 4 had nothing with Blackhand, his awakening was due to luck in a stressful situation.
That we clearly hear him also was it's own action.

Reminds me, we need a way to awaken the trai for sure....

Slickji said:
Aight back to my Idea Hugr 4 unlocks Rune usage, it cannot be Seidr since we got the healing palm at Hugr 3

....but, IF didn't said anything about it being gated behind anything, aside from the skill level needed if you want to write runes?

Slickji said:
Yeah but the 4th stage in qi condensation is minor barrier with slightly more quality in the stage than 2->3 and 4->5 give. 7 and 10 are larger barrier with even more benefits for achieving

Just keep in mind, the real Norse cultivation is still a locked mystery, so don't expect it runs like the Chinese one.

[X] Plan Dealing With The Curse
[x] Muna: The Return of Stigr (Gives Twist: Hidden in Rags)

To bad work interrupted the code break, but alas, perhaps next time....

(I am also ashamed that I dismissed it at the time, being the one who asked what the runes on it said....)

Imperial Fister said:
Yep, I believe I mentioned her way back when I was talking about medicine the first time. Nothing by name.

She's one of the strongest people in Asvir and the surrounding regions. Lotta people singing her praises, lotta people owe her their lives.

...that makes sense, yeah.
It's a good job, and the Norn probably keep her around as much as they can....
A surefire sing that she is gonna die will be that se needs an apprentice, isn't it?

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Hmmm. I think I'm removing asking Jerasmus to stay then, seems like Halla would have more faith in the Midwife than that. If he stays on his own that's fine, but an entirely separate matter.

Aaaah!!!
Almost forgot!!!!
Most bibles were Latin iirc up until Gutenberg!
Please, secur e Latin lessons from Jerasmus!!!!!
....also, ask him about the cultivation system too, he is probably an Errant, but Steinar couldn't quite handle him before he brought him home....
Perhaps ask him about the Priest we fought with?
...and if he wants to barter with knowledge... We do know a witch who might be amenable to trade...

DeadmanwalkingXI · Apr 11, 2023

TheCount said:
Aaaah!!!
Almost forgot!!!!
Most bibles were Latin iirc up until Gutenberg!
Please, secur e Latin lessons from Jerasmus!!!!!

I'll add asking him to stick around and teach us Latin, sure. (EDIT: And phrased as him helping us study the bible...that seems like it'll grab his attention. It's also objectively true, if perhaps not for the reasons he'd prefer. Also, added him to our Bible Research training if possible.)

TheCount said:
....also, ask him about the cultivation system too, he is probably an Errant, but Steinar couldn't quite handle him before he brought him home....
Perhaps ask him about the Priest we fought with?
...and if he wants to barter with knowledge... We do know a witch who might be amenable to trade...

I'm very dubious here. I don't want to deal with the witch again if we can possibly avoid it, and Jerasmus was the one who stopped Gabriel from spilling anything about Christian Cultivation to us. He likes us more now, but actually asking his secrets outright seems a bridge too far. And I think he could be either an Errant or use Clerical cultivation. I dunno which.

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
The moment you release hold on your frami, it's as if it were grabbed by something. It's sucked to the ground and swiftly disappears into smooth stone. That's what always happens, except this time it was far, far quicker to happen. Like something was greedily gobbling it down like Drifa during Yule.

I think the Frami being grabbed.

Is what 'normally' happens when you Truly die.

Imperial Fister said:
The only thing in existence in the void is a locked and barred gate, facing out and away from the empty abyss at the very edge, the barrier between the inner and the outer.

It looks to me like the locked and barred gate might be a 'safety' measure people 'naturally' have? Opening that locked gate might let things inside flow out - Or outside things flow in.

Like the evil spirit that attacked Stigandr. Or when the Seeress put away his consciousness. Obviously cultivating this empty space in our soul seems likely to provide protection against such things as a side effect.

TheCount · Apr 11, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I'm very dubious here. I don't want to deal with the witch again if we can possibly avoid it, and Jerasmus was the one who stopped Gabriel from spilling anything about Christian Cultivation to us. He likes us more now, but actually asking his secrets outright seems a bridge too far. And I think he could be either an Errant or use Clerical cultivation. I dunno which.

The witch is a lose thread, even worse, it's ambiguous, with only Haller's distaste putting her in enemies. I would like to know for sure, before the witch decides it's time.

Jerasmus stepped in because Gabriel was going into a shock, not necessarily because we asked of the Christian cultivation.

And yeah, that's kinda why I would like to ask him about the priest, he lacked something Jerasm has. I am curious what it is

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

TheCount said:
And yeah, that's kinda why I would like to ask him about the priest, he lacked something Jerasm has. I am curious what it is

I think it's a bad idea to talk to Jerasmus about anything that implies we killed a Priest. Or Christian for that matter.

Ditto with Gabriel.

DeadmanwalkingXI · Apr 11, 2023

TheCount said:
The witch is a lose thread, even worse, it's ambiguous, with only Haller's distaste putting her in enemies. I would like to know for sure, before the witch decides it's time.

No, we have plenty of other evidence that she was trying to take advantage of us in a very predatory way, and a high likelihood that she worships the Morrigan, which would make us very much not friends. I'm disinclined to put ourselves in her place of power again, or allow anyone we care about at all to do the same...she wants her minor favor, she can come ask us for it on our own turf.

TheCount said:
Jerasmus stepped in because Gabriel was going into a shock, not necessarily because we asked of the Christian cultivation.

Maybe. I still feel like easing him into it is better than asking for the secrets of Christian cultivation outright.

TheCount said:
And yeah, that's kinda why I would like to ask him about the priest, he lacked something Jerasm has. I am curious what it is

So am I, but reminding him that we just successfully raided his coreligionists and killed a priest is maybe not the way to start a productive discussion. Let's start with the bible and thus Latin and go from there.

TheCount · Apr 11, 2023

Shard said:
I think it's a bad idea to talk to Jerasmus about anything that implies we killed a Priest. Or Christian for that matter.

Ditto with Gabriel.

Feel free to do so.

I am just curious and they are the best sources we have.

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
No, we have plenty of other evidence that she was trying to take advantage of us in a very predatory way, and a high likelihood that she worships the Morrigan, which would make us very much not friends. I'm disinclined to put ourselves in her place of power again, or allow anyone we care about at all to do the same...she wants her minor favor, she can come ask us for it on our own turf.

Maybe. I still feel like easing him into it is better than asking for the secrets of Christian cultivation outright.

So am I, but reminding him that we just successfully raided his coreligionists and killed a priest is maybe not the way to start a productive discussion. Let's start with the bible and thus Latin and go from there.

I still think people are being too jumpy about it.
Also, where did the whole "The morrigan is the enemy"?
Because vikings raid Ireland? Like they raid the rest of Europe that's Christian? Christians like our friends Gabriel and Jerasmus?
Sure, she had failed her self control roll?
(is that how the poor imuple control/impulsive trait gonna work?)
We are a true warrior now. We can protect ourselves and others as well.
Not to mention anyone we would bring is a powerful cultivator themselves.
Also, it's annoying enough we can't really do anything about the Horra situation actively.
The witch is easy in comparison. Either she is an enemy we can kill without the valley attacking us or an usable ally.

As for the Jerasmus stuff... So long as there is progress I am fine.

Toboe · Apr 11, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I'll add asking him to stick around and teach us Latin, sure. (EDIT: And phrased as him helping us study the bible...that seems like it'll grab his attention. It's also objectively true, if perhaps not for the reasons he'd prefer. Also, added him to our Bible Research training if possible.)

I'm very dubious here. I don't want to deal with the witch again if we can possibly avoid it, and Jerasmus was the one who stopped Gabriel from spilling anything about Christian Cultivation to us. He likes us more now, but actually asking his secrets outright seems a bridge too far. And I think he could be either an Errant or use Clerical cultivation. I dunno which.

Can we ask Gabriel for latin/bible lessons first and go to Jerasmus if Gabriel can't help?
Gabriel should be less able to know when to stop talking than Jerasmus (as witnessed by Jerasmus previously stopping Gabriel from telling Secrets) and asking J first may lead to him staying making any questions to the less guarded Gabriel more suspicious.

tldr
Getting Christian secrets may be an opposed action and Jerasmus is smart.

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
The moment you call forth virthing and saemd is the moment you feel it.

Just some clarity here - When Halla manifested Saemd + Virthing in this way, was there a physical manifestation of them, or did they.. simply not appear (physically)?

Imperial Fister said:
Shrugging, you dispel the trick and release hold of your frami — as you are rather curious to see what happens when you do such a thing when full on orthstirr.

How 'long' was Halla able to maintain her hold on her Frami? Looks like pretty long if 6 whole hours passed just like that.

We might have to build like... a cultivation/meditation ground to do full Norse cultivation.

DeadmanwalkingXI · Apr 11, 2023

Toboe said:
Can we ask Gabriel for latin/bible lessons first and go to Jerasmus if Gabriel can't help?
Gabriel should be less able to know when to stop talking than Jerasmus (as witnessed by Jerasmus previously stopping Gabriel from telling Secrets) and asking J first may lead to him staying making any questions to the less guarded Gabriel more suspicious.

tldr
Getting Christian secrets may be an opposed action and Jerasmus is smart.

I suspect Gabriel is a much worse teacher and we do actually want to learn Latin, so I think we do want Jerasmus for that. I do also think we should pump Gabriel for Cultivation information later on without Jerasmus's presence, but that's at least somewhat a separate matter from learning Latin and studying the bible, and can be done anyway given he's living at our place and all.

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

Jerasmus and knowing better than to teach us.. we might need a dumber teacher >.>

DeadmanwalkingXI · Apr 11, 2023

Shard said:
Jerasmus and knowing better than to teach us.. we might need a dumber teacher >.>

I mean, if Jerasmus just refuses we'll ask Gabriel, but I actually think he'd be fine teaching us Latin...it's detailed Cultivation stuff I suspect there are gonna be some issues with.

TheCount · Apr 11, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I mean, if Jerasmus just refuses we'll ask Gabriel, but I actually think he'd be fine teaching us Latin...it's detailed Cultivation stuff I suspect there are gonna be some issues with.

Wait... Gabriel mentioned knightly oaths....
Wat if the schock was because an oath?
Something something you can't teach others without you (feudal lord's) permission, insert flowery language about honor and worship here.

... perhaps a cultural lesson should be put on the list too?

Shine · Apr 11, 2023

Conversion from first principles is quite funny to watch.

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

Worth noting is that Gabriel had a full church in his soul/dantian/whatever. Our soul. EMPTY.

I suspect that cultivation in this case may require us to literally build stuff in the empty space, which might.. take quite a while. And/or eat training dice and/or Orthsirr availability.

TheWave · Apr 11, 2023

Just had a brainwave, but do kennings have a representation in the three aspects, or in orthisterr, or even in soul space?
Or if that is a non-starter, can a kenning, which is external by default, be fixed in soul space, ie internally? Would that have any effects?

Lunoros · Apr 11, 2023

15-20 pound babies. Wow Halla is about to lose 45-60 pounds.

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
Surplus (Pick 1 or none):
[ ] Make a sacrifice to the Gods (+1 Hamingja per 20 Food/Fodder sacrificed to a limit of 3)
[ ] Host a feast (Costs 1 Food per guest, +1 Relations with each)
-[ ] Write in guests
[ ] Donate to a family in need (+1 Drengskapr per 12 Food/Fodder donated, to a limit of 3)

Currently the plan has us do two when the vote says to do one. Is that allowed? Since we do have a ridiculous amount of food. And would obviously like to do two instead of just one.

KreenWarrior · Apr 11, 2023

On the subject of asking Jerasmus and Gabriel things, I think there's very little harm in asking. We have a good relationship with both, I don't see us harming our relationship by asking what they're willing to share. As Shine pointed out, it's the wedge of eventual conversion, so Jerasmus especially might be happy to share.

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

I think it's a little interesting that we can put things in our Fylgja at all.

I wonder if we could have solved the Fabvir issue by putting his body into our Fylgja.

I also wonder if we can move stuff from our Fylgja storage into our Dantian.

DeadmanwalkingXI · Apr 11, 2023

Shard said:
Currently the plan has us do two when the vote says to do one. Is that allowed? Since we do have a ridiculous amount of food. And would obviously like to do two instead of just one.

Huh. I could swear it allowed more than one when I wrote the plan (and the post has been edited since I wrote the plan...). If we can only do one, we do Sacrifice and I'll adjust the plan accordingly...I'm honestly not sure why we'd only be able to do one, though. Neither should take all that much time in the grand scheme of things, I don't think.

@Imperial Fister can we only do one of the three, and is that per turn or per year? I was originally thinking that each was only once per year but we could as many in one turn as we had the resources for, was that wrong?

Shard · Apr 11, 2023

I still think it's hilarious that the court said Halla's brother was the one who killed Lori. Can you imagine. How embarrassing it would be. If Lori had (at the time) turned out to have been killed by Halla, a girl.

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Huh. I could swear it allowed more than one when I wrote the plan (and the post has been edited since I wrote the plan...). If we can only do one, we do Sacrifice and I'll adjust the plan accordingly...I'm honestly not sure why we'd only be able to do one, though. Neither should take all that much time in the grand scheme of things, I don't think.

Well, both would have been best, and also preferred. But Hamingja if only one is an option is probably slightly better than Drengskapr (at this point we only want Drengskapr for the reputation effects since we're flooded in Orthsirr).

Alectai · Apr 11, 2023

Drengskapr is honestly a fantastic shield against Chicanery, but yeah, in the short term at least, more Hamingja is more important.

Drieder · Apr 11, 2023

@Imperial Fister is it ok to write poetry in french? (With translation of course)

I was thinking of writing about the talk with the knight at the manor from the perspective of the squire. Would it even increase Orthsirr, or only grant reward dice?

Slickji · Apr 11, 2023

TheCount said:
Hamr 4 had nothing with Blackhand, his awakening was due to luck in a stressful situation.
That we clearly hear him also was it's own action.

Reminds me, we need a way to awaken the trai for sure....

....but, IF didn't said anything about it being gated behind anything, aside from the skill level needed if you want to write runes?

Just keep in mind, the real Norse cultivation is still a locked mystery, so don't expect it runs like the Chinese one.

All good points if i take my theory that of the minor barriers i qi condensation the 4th is weakest of the barriers and is abrely different from a normal rank up anyways, perhaps its just fylgja that gets something. 7 has presumably something for all 3. In 1 of the few novels I remember back from when i read like 500 chapters of various xianxia novels and dropped them because a boring part dragged on too long. 9 us usually the last stage then "10" is the wall to second realm. The only one with a stage beyond 9, was a "no shortcuts" protag who found out there is 1-18 but the sheer difficulty of the each stage past 9 is considered not worth since you can break through at any point once you hit 9 and get on to climbing realms instead wasting time in the first realm, MC even throws in the towel at stage 13-15 and uses that to manage a truly perfect 2nd realm (foundation establishment) that nobody else had done (or if it was done the records are lost), which makes getting his 3rd realm (core creation) truly perfect easier and so on.

Taking these facts the enemy has the Norse locked in 1st realm to have us find the best method for reaching those tough qi condensation stages for an actual proper super soldier cultivation style. They are having the millions of Norse cultivators practice qi condensation only with no truly unified system so we each try a slightly different method, those who get to 10+ or whatever become recorded in sagas and perhaps information on their training method is released so that the rest may improve on it. it is like a machine learning algorithm making a the perfect model for getting to stage 18 in qi condensation.

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