Yeah, I agree asking her, just some speculation beforehand.That's probably correct, but I'd still like to hear what the Seeress has to say on the subject. I don't want to assume that's it and be mistaken, y'know?
Yeah, I agree asking her, just some speculation beforehand.That's probably correct, but I'd still like to hear what the Seeress has to say on the subject. I don't want to assume that's it and be mistaken, y'know?
There was a whole discussion at some point awhile back about how Steinarr was smart or clever or whatever for moving to his enemy's ancestral homelands just in case he came back.I mean, yes, it's good that we found out before we actually found ourselves Outlawed for killing apparently the Father or Uncle of half the fucking Jarls in the valley, but the fact this hadn't so much as been hinted by anybody grinds my gears.
He's always in town, except when called to war or to the Jarl of Jurgdby's hall for whatever reason. Right now, he is in town.Is the Headman of the Valley in town @Imperial Fister ? We want to expand our territory before Word Gets Out and we suddenly start finding ourselves with roadblocks or inflated prices.
The best you have is automatically used. You don't need duplicates, but they can be nice in case something happens to the one you're usingActually, also, @Imperial Fister do we need multiple sets of tools, multiple scythes, and so on, or do we only benefit from one? We definitely want to make some, but if we need three of each we'll also want to buy some.
Happy that you've calmed down a bit. I wasn't taking it very well, tbhYeah, as annoyed as my initial impulse was, on the whole, this was a very good thing to learn, that the asshole's been eugenicsing a mutual defense pact to protect him.
I'm just the sort of person who's immediate reaction to roadblocks like this is "FUUUUUUUUUUU"
There was a whole discussion at some point awhile back about how Steinarr was smart or clever or whatever for moving to his enemy's ancestral homelands just in case he came back.
Also, there is a reason for that.
I think it's more the dude is the black sheep of the family. It's not like he specifically made this eugenics defense after all.Yeah, as annoyed as my initial impulse was, on the whole, this was a very good thing to learn, that the asshole's been eugenicsing a mutual defense pact to protect him.
I'm just the sort of person who's immediate reaction to roadblocks like this is "FUUUUUUUUUUU"
Happy that you've calmed down a bit. I wasn't taking it very well, tbh
There was a whole discussion at some point awhile back about how Steinarr was smart or clever or whatever for moving to his enemy's ancestral homelands just in case he came back.
The best you have is automatically used. You don't need duplicates, but they can be nice in case something happens to the one you're using
Okay, so.
Trip to the Headman to buy more land with our loot, trip to the Seeress to Plot and maybe get some quest lines unlocked (I'm curious about the idea of returning Thievesbane to its proper owner actually, and finding out of that's an option could be fun). Trip to the blacksmith to see about picking up some quality iron (I'm especially interested in the fire aspected stuff, we could make an excellent replacement for Thievesbane when our skills are up to it). Then we see about getting a young married couple helping us out on the farm?
We're quite wealthy right now, but currency is meaningless unless turned into power. We need to maintain a hefty reserve too in order to get Gabriel, Jerasmus, and their gear working with us too. It'll be a good justification as well to do the trading expedition down the line as well.
I get it, I'm a similar kind of wayDon't take my initial reactions in the first hour or so of reading an update to necessarily be where I'll settle on. I have strong emotions and I react to unforseen obstructions with flailing cussing. Once I've had a chance to cool my head, I usually accept what happened.
It's just how my brain processes frustration, by burning it out in one go so I can get the emotional context expended so I can actually wrap my head around it and engage properly.
Yeah, I couldn't remember the specifics nor the actual place that I mentioned the ancestral homeland bit (as my notes are kind of extremely jumbled in a semi-organized fashion)As one of the people who commented I was less thinking 'clever' and more 'obsessed'.
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I just realized something...
If we publicly accuse Horra of being involved in the Nisse incident, do we need evidence or can we just do it and when he denies say "you are calling me a liar? Holmgang!"?
Training Dice: 23d6 (1d6 from base, 7d6 from hamingja, 6d6 from Steinarr's Training, 3d6 from Halfdan's Training, 2d6 from Sparring with Gabriel, 3d6 from Abjorn's Leverage, 3d6 from Stigmar Sparring)
He would have died in a legal way, so that could avoid issues with "I don't like him, I don't want to avenge him, but he was killed illegally so I have to for honors sake".This seems likely to be legal...and then get a bunch of his relatives trying to kill us. So it doesn't solve the problem, I don't think. If we have actual strong evidence, a lot less of them will feel obligated to avenge him.
He would have died in a legal way, so that could avoid issues with "I don't like him, I don't want to avenge him, but he was killed illegally so I have to for honors sake".
If you had actual, solid evidence that he was the one behind it then you could absolutely challenge him to a holmgang and that would be the end of it. If you didn't however, even if you won the holmgang then some of his kin would likely be upset that one of their family members died... even if the family member in question was a dick.@Imperial Fister
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I just realized something...
If we publicly accuse Horra of being involved in the Nisse incident, do we need evidence or can we just do it and when he denies say "you are calling me a liar? Holmgang!"?
Yes, bu-
So yeah, it seems that's our wincon. Piss him off enough that he leaves Evidence behind, and then settle it legally.
Really, this just makes me want to double down on the 'scout Horra's place out with our fylgja' plan. Though admittedly, more looking for evidence now than the best time to 'ambush' him. With more information and evidence, we can blacken his name to the point he has no supporters and then trap him into a fight.
I think evidence already exists and that finding it is a better bet than provoking him into making more. We can try that if finding it doesn't work, but it lacks subtlety and I'd prefer the subtle route first, I think.
The hint we got from the Storyteller was that he'd hoist himself with his own petard in the end, we just need to be ready to capitalize when that happens.
I want our Fylgja to either evolve to a proper Magical Beast or be well equipped with stealth and defensive Tricks before we try that, yeah.
I don't think it can even evolve into a magical beast. Since it is basically our soul after all.
You're definitely going to be in the upper echelons of Norse strength, should you live long enough to reach those vaunted heights.Anyway, all that aside, @Imperial Fister , how high tier is having 200+ Orthstirr before you're 17 in Norse Society? It was definitely enough to be worth another Drengskapr and those seem to be harder to acquire the higher up it gets, so it's probably significnat.
Raids give orthstirr. They give a lot of orthstirr. That's their main purpose, to generate orthstirr for the raiders.Plus, uh, the total raid had us more than double the Orthstirr we started in. How's that actually compare to how much Steinarr had when he came back from that Raid a while back?
you die of heart palpations because your bedroom's Feng Shui suddenly turned Very Ominous.