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It is, that was in the top 5% of bad outcomes or thereabouts, rolled separately once there was one, IIRC. It wasn't the only one in that top 5% either.
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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- Original Fantasy Action
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- norse mythology (mythology) original xianxia cultivation western cultivation ask sirihand did your mother tell you anything? discussion pleases yggdrasil farming gloating gets people killed granary management hubris is a coward's word you will die norsemen do not die when they are killed the qm has a bad memory the qm is bad at math viking courtroom drama (legal drama) vikings
It is, that was in the top 5% of bad outcomes or thereabouts, rolled separately once there was one, IIRC. It wasn't the only one in that top 5% either.
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- New Zealand
I wonder if as an extension of that, the Enemy is dying(last breath) and using Steel so that his death won't come.
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[X] Go to the Jarl's hall and greet him
First thing you do at any place of importance is show the correct amount of respect to the people in charge. Look how well dealing with that English king went for us?
First thing you do at any place of importance is show the correct amount of respect to the people in charge. Look how well dealing with that English king went for us?
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There's no clear evidence that "roughly ten times" is an upper limit, at least that I know of. We know of a knight who was several hundred years old, and that's probably not unusual for Christian cultivators, but if I recall correctly (I could be wrong here) not only Charlemagne but Attila the Hun are still around. Not 100% sure about Charlemagne, but I seem to recall it, and Attila was around recently enough that it's within Blackhand's living memory. Which can't have been much more than 100-120 years ago, roughly.
Assuming Charlemagne's birth came at a time roughly corresponding to "OTL date times ten," he'd be over a thousand years old, and Attila would be several millennia old.
I could be off-base here, but I don't think high-level cultivators are using the Norse element of Steel to preserve their longevity. I think they just operate within a paradigm where one of the rewards of cultivation is to combat the biological aging of their bodies.
I don't think the Romans saw themselves as antithetical to change, though they did have a lot of enthusiasm for their own real or imagined traditions.
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No I mean IF said on discord that Rome is literally made of Steel, pretty much everything including things like the aqueducts.
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Norse (external) Cultivation seems, if anything, to shorten the life of a cultivator. We were told pretty much explicitly that the downside of gathering too much Orthstirr too fast is that it takes toll on Mind and Body.
It seems kinda like other Xianxia's 'demonic' paths, where you gain a lot of power very quickly, you can become a force in years that take hundreds for proper cultivators, but it attacks and poisons you long term and means it's hard to survive to the true peak of power, or drives you to madness, or makes you unable to stop killing or or or etc.
This makes sense when you consider that Fabjorn, a dude in his late 20s early 30s at most can fight against a 300 year old knight to a standstill.
Knights take a slower steadier path. Norsemen take the quick dangerous one.
It seems kinda like other Xianxia's 'demonic' paths, where you gain a lot of power very quickly, you can become a force in years that take hundreds for proper cultivators, but it attacks and poisons you long term and means it's hard to survive to the true peak of power, or drives you to madness, or makes you unable to stop killing or or or etc.
This makes sense when you consider that Fabjorn, a dude in his late 20s early 30s at most can fight against a 300 year old knight to a standstill.
Knights take a slower steadier path. Norsemen take the quick dangerous one.
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I think that was due to being related to Odin more than anything else
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- New Zealand
I mean, considering some of the stuff Odin got up to, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a two way street.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Oh?
Well then.
Guess I was wrong, and the Romans were just very hardcore about making sure their city lasted forever.
Though it sounds as if they've still fallen and moved the capital to Constantinople anyway, unless I misunderstand things.
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I'd be willing to bet that Constantinople has solid Steel walls
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Yeah, it was implied pretty much everywhere the seat of an empire was had at least some Steel in its foundation.
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Interesting.
Though if true, then it suggests one of two things.
1) That the Norse mythos and cultivation paradigm has "primacy" over others in that its take on how the world came to be is objectively more true, since the Norse idea of 'Steel' is something that outsiders integrate into their own 'eternal' constructs.
2) That 'Steel' is not a cultural artifact of Norse and Norse-adjacent cultures (such as the Germanic tribes and the Finns), but is rather a basic universal elemental force in the same way that "Sun" or "Water" are. It may well be that within the Norse mythos and paradigm, the Enemy has a lock on the concept of Steel (much as, say, Thor probably has a lock on lightning), but that doesn't mean that people as remote from us as the ancient Romans or the modern Christians are making deals with the Enemy to get their Steel.
Basically, either the Norse are right and everyone else is wrong, or Steel is something that has an existence independent of the Enemy.
Though if true, then it suggests one of two things.
1) That the Norse mythos and cultivation paradigm has "primacy" over others in that its take on how the world came to be is objectively more true, since the Norse idea of 'Steel' is something that outsiders integrate into their own 'eternal' constructs.
2) That 'Steel' is not a cultural artifact of Norse and Norse-adjacent cultures (such as the Germanic tribes and the Finns), but is rather a basic universal elemental force in the same way that "Sun" or "Water" are. It may well be that within the Norse mythos and paradigm, the Enemy has a lock on the concept of Steel (much as, say, Thor probably has a lock on lightning), but that doesn't mean that people as remote from us as the ancient Romans or the modern Christians are making deals with the Enemy to get their Steel.
Basically, either the Norse are right and everyone else is wrong, or Steel is something that has an existence independent of the Enemy.
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Steel seems to be universal, yeah. Only the Finns know why it's cursed and it's a favored tool of the enemy as it represents its ultimate end goal, cultural stagnation.
[ ] Go to the Jarl's hall and greet him
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How strong do you think we could make a mortal without turning them into a cultivator?
This is including magic items by the way.
This is including magic items by the way.
Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
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I don't know if it's possible to draw a hard line between cultivator and non-cultivator when you start including magic items, since magic items themselves can cultivate. Are you a cultivator if you wear a suit of Realized armor and wield a Realized weapon?
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It seems likely to me? Time Stands Still and Steel both represent stuff stopping, stagnating, not happening. TSS for the world around you and Steel for everything and potentially yourself (as a steelfather).
TSS being a Steel style would be interesting. The concept it draws on being the concept of Steel. Hmm!
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No you aren't, you just have a cultivator friend.
Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
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I'd guess that you could be as powerful as having a cultivator friend with you all the time can make you, then.
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Steel is explicitly universal, yeah. The Sea Peoples using it has been mentioned. The Enemy is a Norse-specific problem that seemingly likes the Curse of Steel and works to make it worse, but Steel does its thing to everyone.
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Fair enough, i suppose I should have excluded other cultivators to begin with.