do we have an aoe heal yet? we have 2 aoe buffs (last i checked, might be 3+ more) but that would be an awesome addition. we'd want something like that for any planned counterattack on our father's killers. might be good to, now that a load of their best fighters are dead or enthralled, to counterraid them with our (now more experienced) fighters. we need to take revenge sooner or later afterall and any good smith will tell you to strike while the iron is hot.

on the topic of traitors, the village definately has one or more of them. the possibilities are either (or both) possessions or doppelgangers and the possible targets include:
-jarl corpsetaker (drysalt in disguise? a minion?)
-headman dorri (vibes arent as bad as corpsetaker, but his kenning is more tame, honestly i can see corpsetaker being a cool dude with an unfortunate moniker and poor social skills but if it's dorri, we have a more cunning infiltrator as our social tricks haven't revealed weird vibes from him yet)
-right hand man of one of the above (an advisor, lieutenant, ect. in fact, both the jarl and the headman could be uncomprimised and just being played off eachother by trusted friends making them seem evil to each other, just a thought)
-one (or more) of the village's warriors/noncombatants (this is prob less likely as their life would have been endangered in the raid but it's possible. flamestepper is one possibility

in terms of strategy, i actually dont think we should reveal the (obvious to us) conspiracy to anyone outside of our family and the seeress. because the authority figures are feuding (even if they're not compromised they'll spin us telling them about dopples/possessors to benefit themselves, possibly giving the game away and letting the enemy escape before we can get our answers. if they are compromised, it tells them that we know, which we dont want. information is power. i think our best option for this and prob the next few turns is to learn how to discreetly identify the two different types of infiltrators and start secretly vetting important people and building a widening circle of trust to protect ourselves and our family from this and things like it in the future.
 
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I didn't say possession, I said he got doppled.

Mmm. Fair. Evidence suggests that most of the doppelganger problem is possession-based, but shapeshifters are also possible. All the more reason to talk with the kid, really.

do we have an aoe heal yet? we have 2 aoe buffs (last i checked, might be 3+ more) but that would be an awesome addition. we'd want something like that for any planned counterattack on our father's killers. might be good to, now that a load of their best fighters are dead or enthralled, to counterraid them with our (now more experienced) fighters. we need to take revenge sooner or later afterall and any good smith will tell you to strike while the iron is hot.

Combat healing is tricky and we have all of it Solrun could teach. We can aim for more, maybe, but it's not gonna be easy. Our best route is probably alloying an existing AoE with a healing effect. We can give that a shot.

That said, their best fighters were the 40 they sent after Steinarr, and most of them are probably alive since none got enthralled. And their leaders at least are part of a Steelfather's Hird. Going after them with just our own people straight on will not work out well. We need more resources or them to be distracted.
 
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so Sten is taking the sheep and Halla the cattle, so Halla won't just eat all the sheep by the end of winter?

do we want to try infusing another Hugareida or do we give up? cause its possible that clearwater doesn't have any visible effect cause of its nature and maybe being utility. we can try infusing Stanstill or Ignition next, with precaution in place, when Blackhand is back
 
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Side thought: now that we've backed off and let Burri do whatever he was going to do with that herb, it might be worthwhile to go look him up and try to get a seed in trade. I mean, it wouldn't be cheap, but it might well be worth it anyway... and it would be useful both to get an idea of what's changed and (potentially) to try to heal that rift a bit more.

EDIT: With that said, I think most Steelfathers are at 1.3, simply because Mass Disclosure hasn't happened yet, and a King needs even Jarls to bend the knee--but the thing is that a Jarl is strong enough to threaten a King, and most Steelfathers fear death too much.
Are Steelfathers capable of having Odr? I thought there was some mojo that basically severed that in weird/bad ways.
 
do we want to try infusing another Hugareida or do we give up? cause its possible that clearwater doesn't have any visible effect cause of its nature and maybe being utility. we can try infusing Stanstill or Ignition next, with precaution in place, when Blackhand is back

IF clarified on Discord that it just doesn't work. Based on this and Martial Styles I think it's pretty clear you can only put Odr into the same things you can put Orthstirr into.

Side thought: now that we've backed off and let Burri do whatever he was going to do with that herb, it might be worthwhile to go look him up and try to get a seed in trade. I mean, it wouldn't be cheap, but it might well be worth it anyway... and it would be useful both to get an idea of what's changed and (potentially) to try to heal that rift a bit more.

It's probably worth doing, yeah. Actions are tight with the investigation and all the other stuff we want to do, though.

Are Steelfathers capable of having Odr? I thought there was some mojo that basically severed that in weird/bad ways.

They are. Corpsemaker has been noted to have the spotlight effect. There may well be bad effects of Steelfatherhood, but they retain access to Odr cultivation.
 
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I'm not sure if an AOE Healing effect is possible without a literal Healing/Life hugareida.

When we heal people with Time Heals All Wounds, we are actually manually regenerating them. Our Healing magic isn't executed conceptually, it's executed literally and mechanistically.
 
there are also situations where a mid battle AOE heal is useful, depending on its power. and pretty sure banish the night only affects allies so it might 'ride' on it
 
there are also situations where a mid battle AOE heal is useful, depending on its power. and pretty sure banish the night only affects allies so it might 'ride' on it

No, it hits everyone. It's been mentioned that it removes beneficial emotional effects, too, which has been noted as potentially relevant. But yeah, even without IFF hitting everyone with a heal can be useful.
 
It is possible to heal people badly with Time Heals All Wounds, so even if you can in fact heal everyone..
 
Guys, what are the chances that the Lidrun who came to our house party was Drysalt or his agent and the real Lidrun was killed after the first meeting at the market? Or maybe Lidrun was Drysalt (or his agent) all along?
Also, @DeadmanwalkingXI , when are we planning to do the Disclosure?
 
Guys, what are the chances that the Lidrun who came to our house party was Drysalt or his agent and the real Lidrun was killed after the first meeting at the market? Or maybe Lidrun was Drysalt (or his agent) all along?

This has been mentioned. If she's him or his agent, the biggest sign is her yellow eyes, which are true both times so it's probably an 'always was' sort of thing. We're suspicious, but we also hate her guts, so it's hard to say how much that makes us more inclined to believe badly of her.

Also, @DeadmanwalkingXI , when are we planning to do the Disclosure?

Disclosure as such is probably not happening this lifetime. The hope is to do it next lifetime with an heir who has few to no Infusions to make things easier on them. And to do so through a book, which may also help with that. But neither works while Halla lives...we may find a roundabout way to get Odr Cultivation for, like, Abjorn but proper Disclosure is probably not happening.
 
Disclosure as such is probably not happening this lifetime. The hope is to do it next lifetime with an heir who has few to no Infusions to make things easier on them. And to do so through a book, which may also help with that. But neither works while Halla lives...we may find a roundabout way to get Odr Cultivation for, like, Abjorn but proper Disclosure is probably not happening.
Thats a bit disappointing. I was hoping for a big fight with all our friends and family standing by our side, and I was also waiting to see their faces when they finally get the answer to the weird shit that Halla does every now and then that requires everyone to dropnwhat they are doing and stand guard over her. Does this mean only one of our children will be initiated into the secret?
 
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