She insulted Hellas family so that means we want to do something but it also means she insulted Hellas family in its entirety which include her father and brothers and I would bet on Stanier bodying her on any day of the week without all the others.
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
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I.F. Ister
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She was not beyond Realm 1.
She was beyond Saga Establishment, though
I'll tell you what the Enemy allows to pass by for 1 Reward Dice. There will be no further details other then that, however.
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WTF?
Are the terms not synonymous?
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Alectai
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Yeah, sure, go for it then. I'll use my regenerating one for that.
Technically when we just got Odr we still haven't crossed to realm 1 but we weren't at realm 0 (mortal) either. So it could be that she's in the in-between of realm 1 and 2 where she surpassed realm 1 but hasn't yet fully left it and steeped into realm 2.
I.F. Ister
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I'm happy that this all landed nicely
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This doesn't really make sense to me.
An anxiety about repeating the a cycle of abusive behaviour isn't the same thing as overprotectiveness?
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I think what deadman is trying to say is that if we sideline him then he's going to interpret it as us not trusting him to have our back.
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Basically what alexthealright said. He's in a situation where he's likely to interpret this as us not trusting him, which would be real bad. Or at least that's a real risk. He's not only worried about repeating the cycle (though he is worried about that), he is also worried he is a horrible monstrous person...anything we do to reinforce that is bad.
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I mean, we live with him and have six children together. It's pretty obvious we trust him. If our relationship was so fraught that simply going off with our huscarls to do a minor errand by ourselves would give him fits of jealous insecurity, then we really would haves serious relationship problems, and he would be being abusive.
But we don't, because this discussion is the quest equivalent of that tweet about making up a guy to get mad at. It's a complete non-issue.
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It's not about jealousy. It's about him not having confidence in his own worthiness. Very different thing.
No, it's about you catastrophising about a minor choice in a minor vote, and inventing reasons the sky will fall down.
This Chicken Little routine is honestly really tiring, man. If you want to bring Abjorn, just say you'd like to bring Abjorn! That's fine!
EDIT: @Imperial Fister, can you step in here?
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So, leaving Abjorn behind is so weird I don't feel like I'm catastrophizing. Like, that feels very much like an intentional slight and a diminishment of him. It's not certain to insult him or make him feel bad, but I never said it was. I said it risked doing so for no benefit I can see. What percentage chance of risking that? I have no idea, probably not super high, but I'd rather not take even a small risk of that.
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To be clear, if people want to bring Abjorn, I think that's fine. I think it makes more sense to just bring our retinue and leave Abjorn to the more important business of running the farm, so I voted that way, but whatever.
What I object to is this tendency to immediately default to inventing reasons why any other option will mean Dire Consequences. It's really common in Quests because fear is a powerful motivator, and it makes having reasonable or fun discussions basically impossible.
Dude, it's just a vote over who to bring. There are going to be no more consequences to it than that. This whole discussion is silly.
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I mean, that's what I thought about using extra tasty sheep bone ash. I was wrong then, which makes me inclined to be careful on this kind of thing.
I.F. Ister
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This vote is for who will be on hand with you, so you can tap them for their strengths, skills, and talents. There is nothing more to it then that, other then that, should anything happen at home while you're away, they won't be there to help.
I will ask that you two either drop the topic outright or give final statements and then step away
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If that's all there is, that's all there is and I'm sorry for being paranoid and bringing up other stuff, my bad. I guess I'm just gun shy given previous events on this specific subject.
All I'd add is that I apologise if my tone got a bit heated there.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to hear this guy's story. I think the last troll we met mentioned something about it being really difficult to buy a house in "Troll Town"?
Clearly Drysalt is worse than just an ancient elder troll who does not fear the sun. He's a NIMBY!
Anyway, it'll be interesting to hear this guy's story. I think the last troll we met mentioned something about it being really difficult to buy a house in "Troll Town"?
Clearly Drysalt is worse than just an ancient elder troll who does not fear the sun. He's a NIMBY!
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AeonIlluminate
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@Imperial Fister Aletcai said that he would pay the 1 Reward Die to get the info on what the Enemy would let pass , so could you lob us that info please?
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Forgor, whoops
Anyways, the Enemy lets things go un-accosted if they won't—or it believes they won't—pan out to anything.
I had a joke I ended up cutting about the last troll you met being a 'conservatroll' who complains about the damn 'millennitrolls'
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Hey Halla does Red Scarf have a boat and if not how is she still cultivating?
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Halla Skyfire: "Well, everybody knows that there is no power without sacrifice, so I guess Lidrun decided to sacrifice her 'not being a complete bitch' at some point, huh?"
Well, that makes sense.
On the other hand, Halla would be able to feel that Nid, as I recall. It ain't subtle. And she didn't feel it here. Furthermore, Lidrun was specifically exploiting some kind of skaldic "decide/sense whether or not there's an audience" power here, it seems like. That looks like it was how she was confident of speaking openly about odr in a crowded room without attracting the Enemy's attention, as I understand it.
Now, we know that orthstirr is gained and lost in large part because of how deeds impact your reputation. Granted, you can gain orthstirr from a fight when no human or near-human is watching, but if nothing else, the Norns and the gods (and the Enemy) can nearly always see.
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Maybe whatever power makes Lidrun confident that the Enemy can't overhear her when she casually talks about odr in front of a large group of people who don't know about it, also as a side-effect means that whatever cosmic forces control the flow of orthstirr and by implication the flow of Nid can't hear what she says either.
That might even be intentional.
After all, it'd be perversely handy to a skald, especially an obnoxious one, to be able to insult people to their face without giving them actual tangible(ish) Nid that can only be cleansed by killing the skald. Skalds may be good at avoiding being killed, but there are limits.
Meanwhile, if Lidrun were actually shit-talking Halla in public, I'm pretty sure the humiliation would lead to a perceptible orthstirr drain or Nid or whatever. If we're not feeling that, then this is probably just Lidrun expressing her private opinion of us. She could almost certainly escalate to attacking our actual power by publicly humiliating us and forcing us to immediately retaliate or lose power, if she wanted to, and I suspect this is absolutely a thing skalds to do anyone they actually want dead.
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Well, that makes sense.
Given how Norse culture works, I think you mean it the other way around- is it Nid to NOT kill someone that's insulted you and your family?
On the other hand, Halla would be able to feel that Nid, as I recall. It ain't subtle. And she didn't feel it here. Furthermore, Lidrun was specifically exploiting some kind of skaldic "decide/sense whether or not there's an audience" power here, it seems like. That looks like it was how she was confident of speaking openly about odr in a crowded room without attracting the Enemy's attention, as I understand it.
Now, we know that orthstirr is gained and lost in large part because of how deeds impact your reputation. Granted, you can gain orthstirr from a fight when no human or near-human is watching, but if nothing else, the Norns and the gods (and the Enemy) can nearly always see.
...
Maybe whatever power makes Lidrun confident that the Enemy can't overhear her when she casually talks about odr in front of a large group of people who don't know about it, also as a side-effect means that whatever cosmic forces control the flow of orthstirr and by implication the flow of Nid can't hear what she says either.
That might even be intentional.
After all, it'd be perversely handy to a skald, especially an obnoxious one, to be able to insult people to their face without giving them actual tangible(ish) Nid that can only be cleansed by killing the skald. Skalds may be good at avoiding being killed, but there are limits.
Meanwhile, if Lidrun were actually shit-talking Halla in public, I'm pretty sure the humiliation would lead to a perceptible orthstirr drain or Nid or whatever. If we're not feeling that, then this is probably just Lidrun expressing her private opinion of us. She could almost certainly escalate to attacking our actual power by publicly humiliating us and forcing us to immediately retaliate or lose power, if she wanted to, and I suspect this is absolutely a thing skalds to do anyone they actually want dead.
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