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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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For plans, maybe something like this?

[ ] Who, if any, would you like to bring?
-[ ] Abjorn, Stigmar, Vagn, Tryggr, and Trausti
[ ] What's the general way you're going to be approaching this?
-[ ] Diplomatically, see what's up first

That seems right to me given the situation.

Imperial Fister said:
Furthermore, after some discussion on the discord (link to which is in my sig), I've decided to float the idea of swapping from training dice to just flat xp. The reason for this is that while Deadman does a fantastic job, it simply isn't healthy for a quest to rely on one person who understands the mechanics to make plans. This should, hopefully, cut down on the complexity of plans, allowing for others to take a crack at it.
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I am, for the record, entirely on board with this idea. I'm not gonna stop making plans but anything that makes them simpler and makes it easier to proliferate them a bit is to the good.

If we do this we'd likely want to finish off our half-completed stuff (or at least I would), meaning there'd be a slight lag time doing that before plan complexity got way down (though it'd drop a bit immediately), but after we do that (which is likely a matter of only a couple of turns) we're probably talking xp in only half a dozen things at most (often less), which should make the Training section of plans much easier to both read and make.
 
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Now I need to update Dramatis Personae... And maybe figure out how many Reward Dice it would be to figure out how we can guide our household through the biggest pitfalls we've identified in Saga Establishment without triggering a response we can't handle. We Do know there's a specific circumstance in which the Enemy will let a limited Disclosure pass unchallenged, even if it's not the full out Cheat Code we can employ starting with our second character, but...
 
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"How do I 'shut down' my senses?"

The Seeress frowns, "That is the hard part, unfortunately, as it can't be taught. I," she presses her hands to her chest, "don't have a sense of smell, so I simply spread that sensation to my other senses. You could sacrifice one of your senses to get it, or, if you were willing to have your fylgja killed, then that experience would give you something to draw from, but..."
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With this, would it work if we put out our own eyes, heal them a smidge so that they didn't hurt anymore, and then put tons of effort into remembering that feeling, then heal them the rest of the way. Then we have the feeling we need and can use that. It may need refreshing every now and then but realistically the cost shouldn't be more than a couple mins and 2 casts of a regen spell.
 
AeonIlluminate said:
With this, would it work if we put out our own eyes, heal them a smidge so that they didn't hurt anymore, and then put tons of effort into remembering that feeling, then heal them the rest of the way. Then we have the feeling we need and can use that. It may need refreshing every now and then but realistically the cost shouldn't be more than a couple mins and 2 casts of a regen spell.
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This does seem viable, yeah, if all we need is the experience of not having a sense, we can do that with eyes or ears in ways that are, to a Norsewoman with healing magic, easily repairable...indeed, we could even manage both at once in theory. I suspect we'd need to stay sense-less for longer than a few minutes, but a couple of days should be memorable and doable, I'd think?
 
Or alternately, just pop your eardrums--or hell, just stuff clay or moss in your ears. Norse heal back from far worse.
 
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She grins, eyes sparkling, "The word of odr cannot be heard by the worthless masses in the background." She waves a hand at the feast-goers, her thoughts on them clear as day.

Blackhand sneers, a wet, guttural sound echoing from his throat, 'And now I remember why I hated most of my so-called peers. This mentality, this philosophy, if you could call it that,' he 'waves' a mocking 'hand' in the vague direction of Lidrun, 'is far too common for my tastes. Maybe it's different now, but I wouldn't hold my breath.'
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It seems that even the Norse are not fully immune to Xianxia tropes.
 
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"Humanity are better then animals because they are capable of more." You can reckon where she's going next, and you hate it with every fiber of your being, "Therefore, those with odr are better then humans. Honestly," she shakes her head, "the fact that you decided to breed with one of them is disgusting."
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Finally, we're catching up on our Cultivator Arrogance Quota. This is the quality content I like to see!!!

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"You'll stay out of my way if you know what's good for you, Halla Skyfire."

Your brows dig a deep valley on your face as you growl, fists clenching together, "The same goes for you, Lidrun of the Red Scarf."

She grins as she walks away, laughing all the way. You watch her go as you struggle to figure out exactly how much you hate her.
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GIRLBOSS FIGHT

GIRLBOSS FIGHT!!!

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He holds up his hands in surrender, "You'll hear no quarrel from me regarding private business. All I want is for you to broker a deal between the Ducklings and me," he pauses before adding, "and, if you're willing, to turn that Forged Iron into arms and armor."

Your brows rise as you suck in a breath, "That's... a big ask. Have you spoken with Sten about forging? And what about Asvir's smith?"

"Your brother's already agreed to forge, and as for Ketill," a small frown creases the corners of Dorri's mouth, "he unfortunately passed away in his sleep a few days ago." Dorri sighs and shrugs, "I'd been hoping to use his dwarfriend status for this, but it seems the Norns had other plans."

You hadn't heard that Ketill Smith had died, "What happened?"

Dorri grimaces, "It's uncertain, but the healers think a tumor may have slipped into his bloodstream overnight."

"Damn," you share a brief moment of silence before returning to business. "So, what would I receive in exchange for doing this?"

Dorri nods, like he'd been expecting that, "A portion of all loot taken by use of your arms and armor, with a preference towards interesting plants."

You whistle, "That... is a good price."
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Exciting offer!

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The second is a cloak of... You're not sure what the cloth is made of. It's neither silk nor wool and it certainly isn't linen, so what is it? It resembles the flame of a firepit, the tongues of fire even shifting to and fro as you turn it this way and that.

Asva can't stop the giggles at your confusion, "Mom taught me a couple tricks with cloth-making. This," she rubs the cloth between thumb and fore-finger, "is the result of spinning fire into a cloak. I also made it so liquid just slides right off." It's then that you notice the faint buzzing of magic against your fingers. She winks as you look back up, giving nothing away.

As you exchange a final hug, you resolve to ask Solrun about this as soon as you get a chance.
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Wow! That's really cool! Go Asva!

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Troll Cave
You land before the entrance to the troll's cave, the sun shining high in the sky. You've got plenty of time to work out a plan, but first you should decide on who to bring and the way you're going to approach this.

[ ] Who, if any, would you like to bring?
-[ ] (Write in)
[ ] What's the general way you're going to be approaching this?
-[ ] Aggressively, bust in and lay the smackdown
-[ ] Diplomatically, see what's up first
-[ ] Write in

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Time to talk to a troll!

[X] Who, if any, would you like to bring?
-[X] The Squad (Stigmar, Trausti, Tryggr, and Vagn)
[X] What's the general way you're going to be approaching this?
-[X] Diplomatically, see what's up first

I think we should be diplomatic here. We're so over-levelled for fighting a single troll that bursting in swords drawn would feel less like an epic duel against a monster and more like animal cruelty, TBH.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
There's a moratorium, and we should also bring Abjorn.
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Which ended fourteen minutes ago.

And no, I think we're already hilariously over-equipped for this if it turns violent. Bringing our huscarls is fine because they're our retinue and it's their job. Bringing Abjorn along just makes him feel like a third wheel.

Besides, it's good to keep one decent combatant at the farm at all times.
 
Skippy said:
Which ended fourteen minutes ago.
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You're right, I edited it out after a moment.

Skippy said:
And no, I think we're already hilariously over-equipped for this. Bringing our huscarls is fine because they're our retinue and it's their job. Bringing Abjorn along just makes him feel like a third wheel.

Besides, it's good to keep one decent combatant at the farm at all times.
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I don't think going into danger without Abjorn is likely to make him happy. Very much the opposite. I'd rather not cause additional marital tensions we don't have to, y'know? Like, that verges on actually cruel to him given his protective streak and likely guilt issues. If we're gonna leave someone, it shouldn't be him.

Also, I wouldn't assume the troll is alone. Hubris of that sort can get us in trouble...and we can leave the kids with Sten and Steinarr for an afternoon. No need to leave other people at the farm, IMO.
 
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[Y] Plan Bring Our Meatshield Husband

[X] Who, if any, would you like to bring?
-[X] Abjorn, Stigmar, Vagn, Tryggr, and Trausti
[X] What's the general way you're going to be approaching this?
-[X] Diplomatically, see what's up first
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I don't think going into danger without Abjorn is likely to make him happy. Very much the opposite. I'd rather not cause additional marital tensions we don't have to, y'know? Like, that verges on actually cruel to him given his protective streak and likely guilt issues. If we're gonna leave someone, it shouldn't be him.

Also, I wouldn't assume the troll is alone. Hubris of that sort can get us in trouble...and we can leave the kids with Sten and Steinarr for an afternoon. No need to leave other people at the farm, IMO.
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This is not some incredibly dangerous life-or-death mission. Freaking out over it is silly.

We can absolutely go and have mini-adventures without Abjorn, we have done before, and we will do so in future.
 
Skippy said:
This is not some incredibly dangerous life-or-death mission. Freaking out over it is silly.

We can absolutely go and have mini-adventures without Abjorn, we have done before, and we will do so in future.
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In all likelihood? Sure. But there's always the possibility of things going wrong, and more importantly not bringing him along is a problem because it's dismissive of his protective urges, something his guilt might interpret as us not trusting him. Which would be really bad and is easy to avoid by bringing him.
 
Imperial Fister said:
"Humanity are better then animals because they are capable of more." You can reckon where she's going next, and you hate it with every fiber of your being, "Therefore, those with odr are better then humans. Honestly," she shakes her head, "the fact that you decided to breed with one of them is disgusting."
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Here's the Cultivator racism, honestly surprised that it took this long to pop up. Blackhand has a good reason for hating most of his "peers".
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
In all likelihood? Sure. But there's always the possibility of things going wrong, and more importantly not bringing him along is a problem because it's dismissive of his protective urges, something his guilt might interpret as us not trusting him. Which would be really bad and is easy to avoid by bringing him.
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Invoking the nebulous possibility of things going wrong is mildly frustrating because it makes having a rational discussion difficult. There's always very unlikely hypotheticals which will tend to militate against one or another option. Let's confine ourselves to the probable. We have been offered the option to bring no one if we want to, and would almost certainly be fine if we did.

This isn't about Abjorn's protective urges to me. It's about Halla not implicitly making him just another part of her entourage. Especially given he already has to deal with his wife being more powerful and famous than him, which is going to be stressful given Norse gender roles. But also, probably something which may be on Halla's mind given what Lidrun just said.

ArcanaVitae said:
Here's the Cultivator racism, honestly surprised that it took this long to pop up. Blackhand has a good reason for hating most of his "peers".
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It definitely helps convey the mindset of the sort of person who would become a Steelfather (or Steelmother, in this case), that's for sure.
 
Skippy said:
Invoking the nebulous possibility of things going wrong is mildly frustrating because it makes having a rational discussion difficult. There's always very unlikely hypotheticals which will tend to militate for one or another option. Let's confine ourselves to the probable. We have been offered the option to bring no one if we want to, and would almost certainly be fine if we did.
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I mean, in response to noting that we need to travel with more people when we got attacked by Foemen with just Abjorn, IF noted that Heljarskinn never travels anywhere without his whole hird of 80. That's likely excessive for us, but the fact that it was the first response

Skippy said:
This isn't about Abjorn's protective urges to me. It's about Halla not implicitly making him just another part of her entourage. Especially given he already has to deal with his wife being more powerful and famous than him, which is going to be stressful given Norse gender roles. But also, probably something which may be on Halla's mind given what Lidrun just said.
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Abjorn has a negative Muna related to having considered hitting Halla, which is about him being just like his abusive father. He is very likely to interpret any unwillingness to have him protect us in the worst light possible. That's not a sure thing, but it's definitely a worry.

And on the gender role thing, bringing him along as co-leader is gonna be a lot less of an issue than leaving him at home with the kids.

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This bitch really said that...to our face. We're gonna break her skull bone right?
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At the next opportunity to hurt her we take it, yeah. I dunno about making active plans to get rid of her, though. Killing skalds is a bit of a problem.
 
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Heya! @Imperial Fister , have a question. About how many Reward Dice would it be to get a tip about how we can help guide Abjorn and/or our crew through the biggest Saga Establishment pitfalls without actually triggering the Enemy?

We've got a pretty good idea of how to initiate, but figuring out how to direct them away from the biggest pitfalls (Or alternately, to help them ride it out) without tripping over Disclosure would be nice
 
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