Actually, Abjorn didn't use any Fang tricks during the spar, that was all Glima.

I wasn't necessarily implying he did, more saying that we need a lot more than Glima + Fang at 3 total to use a move like that. We need to be better than the person we're wrestling for it to work and the higher our Fang + Glima the more viable it is. Whether we can use that Trick effectively rather than whether we can get it.

Technically, we could get there with Glima alone but it's a much harder row to hoe.
 
I must admit, in the general sense I agree with Alectai that, to me at least, there tends to be a hyper focus on extreme optimization. Which, while not bringing the quest down for me, does end up with why i haven't been as invested in planning, as I'm not the kind of person who optimizes a lot. Not to say that optimization in itself is bad but it feels slightly incongruous when we know we aren't going to get everything right the first time.
 
Yeah, you can social him during the pre-battle. I was gonna have it happen like that anyways if your plan won

That's not quite what I was asking. Alectai was saying we'd get social stuff with him even if we didn't spend the action on it, and I was asking whether that was true.

I must admit, in the general sense I agree with Alectai that, to me at least, there tends to be a hyper focus on extreme optimization. Which, while not bringing the quest down for me, does end up with why i haven't been as invested in planning, as I'm not the kind of person who optimizes a lot. Not to say that optimization in itself is bad but it feels slightly incongruous when we know we aren't going to get everything right the first time.

I'm really sorry if any of my tendencies in that direction are off-putting to people, as that's not my intent at all. I just tend to get really invested in characters in this kind of thing.

Like, I really like Halla as a character and a person and I want her to do well and live a long and happy life (well, as long as we can arrange anyway) and be successful in all her future endeavors. And, in any game with rules, success is often based on those rules, so if I want her to succeed my brain immediately starts working out "Well, what's the best way for her to do that?" Which obviously takes the form of mechanical optimization to at least some degree.
 
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I'm really sorry if any of my tendencies in that direction are off-putting to people, as that's not my intent at all. I just tend to get really invested in characters in this kind of thing.

Like, I really like Halla as a character and a person and I want her to do well and live a long and happy life and be successful in all her future endeavors. And, in any game with rules, success is often based on those rules, so if I want her to succeed my brain immediately starts working out "Well, what's the best way for her to do that?" Which obviously takes the form of mechanical optimization to at least some degree.
Completely understandable, I'm sure there's a good middle ground where everyone can be satisfied.
 
That's not quite what I was asking. Alectai was saying we'd get social stuff with him even if we didn't spend the action on it, and I was asking whether that was true.
Yeah, that's what I figured you meant.
Completely understandable, I'm sure there's a good middle ground where everyone can be satisfied.
I added a suggestion a little earlier that I think got a little skipped over. A sort of tag-team move with Abjorn where he throws you while you've got a Sparkbomb in your hands
 
Did we modify Sagaseeker to also be dual-usable as a Sword? I remember IF saying it was only a slight modification.
 
I added a suggestion a little earlier that I think got a little skipped over. A sort of tag-team move with Abjorn where he throws you while you've got a Sparkbomb in your hands
I did notice that suggestion, and I kinda love the idea of doing an Incredibles move of the husband chucking the wife who has the capability of being ok from the launch.
 
Wonder if there's a Glima trick to immobilize someone you've grappled. If so, the Ember-Winged Lotus might become a reality...


But yeah, the mechanical side of things is way too complex for me to invest in at this point, especially since updates usually drop while I'm at work. We seem to be doing fine in general, so no real complaints. Being mechanically invested sometimes leads to me being more stressed out so I can just enjoy the quest this way.
 
I added a suggestion a little earlier that I think got a little skipped over. A sort of tag-team move with Abjorn where he throws you while you've got a Sparkbomb in your hands

I love the idea and very much think we should do it, but it doesn't mean I don't want to learn Fang and more Glima. Like, I don't only want to do that for mechanical optimization reasons, it's just also really cool and I want some. It being good mechanically is certainly also true and the reason for going for some Fang rather than exclusively more Glima to some extent (though, actually, with Bloodlust, I think Halla might be drawn to Fang) but wanting to pick up some additional wrestling is at least as much a thematic preference as a mechanical one.

Like, when Halla loses, she tries to learn how she lost and improve in that area specifically and I think that's neat, as is wrestling in general, as is wrestling with her husband.

Did we modify Sagaseeker to also be dual-usable as a Sword? I remember IF saying it was only a slight modification.

My impression was that it wasn't a modification at all, actually. Like, an atgeir blade being used as a sword was just a thing you could do? And also that we should wait for Sagaseeker to wake up to determine whether he'd be okay with actually doing that.
 
But yeah, the mechanical side of things is way too complex for me to invest in at this point, especially since updates usually drop while I'm at work. We seem to be doing fine in general, so no real complaints. Being mechanically invested sometimes leads to me being more stressed out so I can just enjoy the quest this way.
Yeah, I'm planning on NorseQuest II: Norse Harder being rather light with mechanics and more focused on the narrative
 
Cooled off somewhat.

Much as I absolutely hate the fact that "We have to take everything on the table or we risk INSTANT DEATH" is an argument that can be thrown out. At the same time, completely removing the whole "Numbers go up" aspect is something I'm a bit leery of too.
 
After travelling through the Hading for a few hours, your fylgja spots something from the sky. On the lake where you battled Osborn, Lori, Hirkir, and Hod is a small island. And on that island is a small glow.
Okay, but like, isn't this Lord Borri's land? So going onto that island would be trespassing and taking that plant would be theft?
 
Much as I absolutely hate the fact that "We have to take everything on the table or we risk INSTANT DEATH" is an argument that can be thrown out. At the same time, completely removing the whole "Numbers go up" aspect is something I'm a bit leery of too.
Rather light in comparison to how it is now, to clarify. There will still be numbers that go up. Just not as many.
 
As only the best warriors in the Valley were invited, the invitation is only to you and Abjorn.
Tryggr, Trausti: :(

Trausti: See Tryggr, this is the consequences of our actions?
Tryggr: Our? What did we do?
Trausti: I don't think we looked good after that alcohol incident at the Mansion. is what I'm saying
Tryggr: Aww...
 
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To be clear, I would also be 100% down with a lighter system. I usually prefer them, to be honest.

Sadly switching in the middle of Halla's story would probably get weird. Something could probably get figured out if we collectively wanted to, though...
 
It's only a crime if you get caught.
Our relationship with them is already pretty bad though. This could up and out start a feud.

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On the mechanics, I think quite a couple of other quests were able to handle the mechanic bloating problem by simplifying.

Also on the mechanics I find it.. aggravating that seemingly we're so spread out.
 
Our relationship with them is already pretty bad though. This could up and out start a feud.

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On the mechanics, I think quite a couple of other quests were able to handle the mechanic bloating problem by simplifying.

Also on the mechanics I find it.. aggravating that seemingly we're so spread out.

I sincerely doubt if we were trying to stay hidden, that they'd pick up on someone poking around on the periphery of their territory to pick up some rando plant that's not being observed, cultivated, or otherwise kept.

It's a risk, yeah, but Halla's got a very good stealth game, and they have no reason to suspect her to go there.
 
Yeah, we can, pretty easily, get a Stealth dice pool of 65d or something silly like that if we so desire, and be using Dressed In Rags on top of that. We can get the plant. And should (I know it's not in my plan...I think we need the Asvir trip this turn, and can do the plant next turn).
 
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