Yeah, that is more the kind of issue I'd expect from him.
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
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I mean, everyone has his own agenda.
True, but I'd extend the statement to him having an agenda that will probably become an issue.
Hm... for the armor... we know Orthstirr (and probably Odr) is very wasteful.... So what if it makes channeling orthstirr more effective?
Though, more as a general effect, so not as strong as the magical metals and other stuff, aligned to an element/concept.
For the Realized items: They ARE a character. that means they do not reset when the wielder changes, hence the potential threat of an angry T9 item killing their wielder....
That's probably also the origin of the "do not take the fallen's weapons and/or armor without reforging, its bad juju" tradition.
This would also make it kinda weird if the Weilder's overwrites the weapon's/armor's own aspects.... But a kind of fusion of the two? I could see that working... kinda like in Shaman King, i guess?
Though, more as a general effect, so not as strong as the magical metals and other stuff, aligned to an element/concept.
For the Realized items: They ARE a character. that means they do not reset when the wielder changes, hence the potential threat of an angry T9 item killing their wielder....
That's probably also the origin of the "do not take the fallen's weapons and/or armor without reforging, its bad juju" tradition.
This would also make it kinda weird if the Weilder's overwrites the weapon's/armor's own aspects.... But a kind of fusion of the two? I could see that working... kinda like in Shaman King, i guess?
It would be odd for Jerasmus to want Halla dead given that she's the one who spent ages with him studying the Bible. Of all the Norse people he's met, it seems like she'd be one of the ones he'd think the most highly of. Also it just doesn't seem like his style.
Yeah I also think it's roughly along these lines. The Knightly Armour process seems like it's essentially making the armour an extension of your soul, whereas Realising an inanimate object is giving it its own soul. Of course we need to poke around a bit to confirm, but that's my hot take.
There might be potential crossover if you somehow gave an item a soul which was bonded or connected to your own somehow; there's a few ways you might be able to do that. But it also feels kinda risky? It might even inadvertently turn the item in question into a kind of phylactery.
Yeah I also think it's roughly along these lines. The Knightly Armour process seems like it's essentially making the armour an extension of your soul, whereas Realising an inanimate object is giving it its own soul. Of course we need to poke around a bit to confirm, but that's my hot take.
There might be potential crossover if you somehow gave an item a soul which was bonded or connected to your own somehow; there's a few ways you might be able to do that. But it also feels kinda risky? It might even inadvertently turn the item in question into a kind of phylactery.
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Technically, the conspiracy theory here is he gave Gabriel Zeal knowing that it would rush his cultivation and cause him to have issues, not that he was trying to kill Halla. That still seems very unlikely to me, but if it were true, he wouldn't have known that Gabriel was gonna blow up on Halla specifically.
The latter is indisputably true. The former seems pretty much confirmed as well based on Gabriel's character sheet when analyzed. It's the armor that gets Muna equivalents, the Armor's rating seems equal to his Recovery, and so on. It's an aspect of their cultivation not just a magic item they happen to have.
I honestly don't know what insights into the differences between the two Halla might've had. That's one reason I very much want the armor Journal Entry...it should give us an actual starting point for if and how this kind of thing might actually work.
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Aspect Healing is instantaneous, but temporary. While it doesn't run out during your average battle, it will once its over. It doesn't instantly revert, but it is a steady process. As your Aspects return to you, so to does the healing disappear.
It's a band-aid on a bullet wound, essentially.
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What do you mean?
You haven't really done a whole lot of poetry since then, I don't think
A Berserk is a powerful combatant most often found in the service of a Warband, in the company of other Berserks. They often form the tip of the spear during charges. They are revered and feared, as an unstable Berserk is a threat to all.
Probably not inherently, but it would draw insults like flies to honey.
Eating the Shadow Bear's heart would be one of the 3 uses it has.
He's never thought of it, but he doesn't think that there would be anything inherently wrong with doing it if you can get that much blood in the first place. It might cause problems for anyone else who tried to wear the armor, though.
According to a blood calculator I found, Abjorn has just under 20 liters/38 pints of blood in him.
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Alrighty, voting is now closed. I think the weirdness for today is over, but it may very well not be.
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Alectai
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Huh, something to keep in mind, but I want to have one of those uses be making a ward on BOOK so that it's less easy for the Enemy to identify its precise contents and location.
And a fucking shadow-bear hide cover is metal as hell.
Hrm on that note, @Imperial Fister , for the purposes of Abjorn's Armor, would adding the cloak be something we have to do as part of Realizing it? Or would we be able to add it and that just counts as half the value needed for the final Realization when we get the other supplemental materials?
And a fucking shadow-bear hide cover is metal as hell.
Hrm on that note, @Imperial Fister , for the purposes of Abjorn's Armor, would adding the cloak be something we have to do as part of Realizing it? Or would we be able to add it and that just counts as half the value needed for the final Realization when we get the other supplemental materials?
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If we don't plan to make the armour an heirloom (which we probably should make it considering how expensive it is), that would be an interesting way of stopping people using your really fancy gear. So personal weapons should probably be fair game as they don't cost horrifying amounts of gold.
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Ah! So it's mostly a way to keep fighting unimpeded after an injury. Check, very Norse. And that explains why Eric couldn't use it to fix his wrist...he could, but it'd be temporary and obvious so it's a worthless distinction socially.
It's definitely an option. I'm really tempted to try and make matching armor for Halla and Abjorn using bone-ash on both, which combined with the book would be the three uses and mean we need to spend 375 oz. of silver on the armor between the two of them if we're Realizing it and not using any Shadow Bear uses to defray expenses...that's not impossible by any means, though.
I think we want to pass everything we can down to our kids eventually (Halla's armor will, sadly, be too small). The blood thing might or might not be a problem for that, though, bloodlines being what they are.
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Adding the cloak now would count towards when you go to Realize it later.
Also, if anyone can remember, did anyone add any Reward Dice to the crafting rolls after the vote concluded for Turn 3?
Alectai
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Shard said they wanted to commit their overflow to it I think? To the Aki gift specifically
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Make a sax in our blood now, give it to a kid (not the one we plan to possess), see what happens? The "problems" may be just -1 Temporary Luck.
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Not something you can do, as that defeats the point of having some kind of limit on Reward Dice amounts. Shard'll get that dice once they spend the majority of their current stock
That sounds promising.
A Realized armor with a strong blood bond.
If the "anyone else" who tries to wear the armor is a child of Abjorn that might even help with not having issues.
Sitting around, one arms wrist slit, arm hanging over a bucket, waiting for all you blood to drip into the bucket because your wife made puppy eyes must be the most boring way for a Norseman to take 1 Endurance damage.
So they could spend a normal die on it and then get that overflow die back?
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Shard was adding a Reward Die to each Rune IIRC, even before the 'overflow' conversation.
EDIT: I remembered properly:
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I.F. Ister
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That's right! Thank you!
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Nice, that means it is kept fresh with the other parts!
Though I know its greedy of me, but can we enhance its effect by preparing it?
Makes sense.... Blood is a very big connection, magically, everywhere in every story.
Perhaps, his descendants could get a pass but that is questionable... especially if he eats magic hearts....
I mean, we can just go hunt more of it? Abjorn getting the benefits of the bear just seems right... and, well... if he didn't eat the heart, who did?
Also, if we are using the bear's pelt/hide for the cloak, where do we get stuff for the book?
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We're dealing with an abstraction here. I'm choosing to look at it as how much magic was in the bear...Abjorn ate the heart, but he only gets the bonuses if we spend one of the three 'crafting uses' as those represent how much magic is available to do things like that.
I mean, it was a Very Large Bear. I suspect there's enough hide for both a cloak and a book cover.
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You could use the skull as the cover and spine. Opening the mouth would open the book
Fair is fair.and as cool as the shadow hide cover for the secret manual of true norse cultivation is.... we still need a lot of work on said book.
And well... i just wanna stack the deck that Abjorn will be there for the kids, even if Halla dies in the upcoming war. Shadow travel seems like a good trick for that.
And then, there is also the whole thing with the number 3 and the 3 parts of the bear going to Abjorn.
The bones, to make his armor just as strong as the bear.
The Pelt, so he can be just as sneaky as the bear.
And the heart, so he can travel the shadows, just like the bear it came from.
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Fuck me that's a head dispensing wisdom.
That's so good!
the mythic resonance alone!
that's just begging for a talking book spirit in a few generations
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I'm not against everything going to Abjorn if that's what people prefer. My only hard requirement personally is using the Bone Ash on Abjorn's armor.
This, however, is extremely metal, which is also tempting.