Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
He likely means in public. The public doesn't know even if our close associates/friends/employees might.
May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
- Thread starter Dr. Snark
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- star wars canon what canon tsundere dice ck2 quest actions have consequences all the credits all work and no play makes ciaran a dull girl best sister capitalism ho! despairing qm teetotaller society member gotta catch 'em all insanity looting off the rails sage dice approaching spicy sheev tsundere asajj
He likely means in public. The public doesn't know even if our close associates/friends/employees might.
- Location
- Germany
Well, we always had eyes, they just weren't functioning before the operation.
People propably don't know we couldn't see before.
What was the basic assumption? That we use Forcesight as a Miraluka or that we use our eyes like a human?
One of those must have been known.
- Location
- New York City
Incom was the company that made the X-wing. That is a nice company to have inroads with.
- Location
- Latvia, Riga
This, most assumed this.
Bones
Don't look behind you.
- Location
- Behind you.
Maybe for the ones where they'd make sense, similar to how we got Thrawn. So maybe an omake about our forces saving a Senator from an assassination attempt increases our prestige or grants us some credits as a gift from the grateful Senator. Or an omake involving Silas or Gulan going on a bender catches us some credits from the gambling earnings or increases our income due to smugglers they cut deals with or the location of the Katana Fleet because MAN they were hammered.
Obviously OP fiat would apply due to the potential for abuse.
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Miraluka do not have eyes. Ciaran only had them because she's one quarter human, which isn't publicly known, and they didn't actually work anyway. So like all Miraluka interacting with other species she always wears a visor in public since seeing someone who doesn't have eyes creeps out the other near-human species for some reason.
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Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
TBH I would do that anyway for canon omakes. Like how fasquadron's basically let you get a "peek behind the curtain" as it were so you could prepare for the machinations of the Sith in the coming turns.
Ah, this fad was such an annoyance. It rendered me blind ast so many of these parties, with everyone wanting to show off their new pets. So I got these new eyes cloned. Lovely technology those kalminos have.Did you one of my grandparents we human? I was born with eyes, they we just malformed and non-functional. But a simple operation and here I am. Still prefer my old force sight, but what can I do about the wins of fashion?
Bones
Don't look behind you.
- Location
- Behind you.
I figured as much, but now it's in writing. Might inspire some more posters to give it a try. I know I have some... stuff in the works.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Please, the guy had no problems arranging an "accident" for his predecessor.
1 issue. Palpatine can then plot around us having the ability to take out the Force in an area.
And so? He can do that to anything we can do really.
The question is how easily he can do it, and how much it will cost us.
In this case it is a mild to severe annoyance ( preventing him from casual force manipulation of the senate eand partially blinding them from his force sights ability to predict them). For a decent profit(exotic pet sales, political good will)
(Omake) The Light Plan (Canon)
Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I apologize in advance.
The Light Plan
Obi-wan Kenobi sat awkwardly in his seat in the High Council room of the Jedi Order. Typically, the Jedi Masters on the Council would assemble beforehand to add an air of mystique and composure to proceedings. It made the person reporting to them nervous, and made almost everyone an open book to the combined attention of multiple Jedi Masters.
This of course meant nothing when the person reporting was also a Jedi Master with a seat on the Council. It was an unprecedented situation, which resulted in the Jedi Masters who had arrived early just sitting around awkwardly. Finally, the last Master arrived. Or rather, his hologram did. It was tradition to have all members present, but the reality of war required compromise with tradition. Still, it was lucky that only Master Trebor was not present, communicating remotely from the frontlines.
"Let the record show I never allowed the reinstatement of a Mand'alor while any of you weren't around." Master Trebor joked, before growing serious. "So, how doomed are we, Master Kenobi?"
"Incredibly doomed it would seem." interjected Master Windu. "While our efforts have been focused elsewhere, an enemy we thought long dead has returned. Because make no mistake, it is only a matter of time before the CNS become a new Mandalorian Empire. I don't doubt that Count Dooku has had some role in this. The only question is whether or not this is merely a distraction we need to ignore or the next point of attack for the Dark Side."
"I don't believe that this resurgence on Mandalore had any Separatist involvement to be quite honest." said Obi-wan, desperate to head off that direction of the conversation. "In fact, I have good reason to suspect that Lady Ciaran is behind all of this."
"I fail to see how this would benefit her. What proof is there of her influence?" said Master Ki-Adi-Mundi.
"While I was on Mandalore while everything was occurring, she specifically denied having any part in the event. Which doubtless means she's been planning this for years, and talked Jango Fett into doing this personally." At this, every Jedi Master who knew Lady Ciaran nodded at Obi-wan's revelations, and began mentally restructuring the events around the new information. Those lucky enough to only know about Ciaran were even more confused.
"I… I don't think that's how politics works, Master Kenobi." said an uncertain Master Billaba.
"No." Master Yoda did not often speak, but when he did, everyone listened to his sage counsel. "Make sense it does. Exactly like her it is."
"Still, even if the reinstatement of a Mand'alor was benevolent, what do we have to say that it will remain so?" said Master Windu, voicing his concerns once more, though noticeable calmer than last time. "If it evolves into what Mandalore once was, a preemptive strike now may be our only recourse."
"Duchess Satine raised similar concerns, and the new Mand'alor agreed to oversight of his actions for the foreseeable future." said Obi-wan. "A preemptive attack is also too costly, even if massively successful. At best we'd be diverting resources from a war we're still losing, and at worst we'd instigate a war on two fronts that would certainly lead to the downfall of both the Republic and the Jedi Order."
The council room devolved into an uncomfortable silence for a short time as Obi-wan and Mace Windu locked eyes, engaged in some silent battle until the end of time. Or at least until Master Shaak Ti spoke up. "Perhaps it would be wise to shelve this topic until the CNS makes any hostile moves or this war is brought to an end. In the meantime, I'm sure we can spare some attention to be prepared in case they do make themselves an enemy."
The two Jedi Masters looked away from each other at the same time, nodding towards Shaak Ti in approval of her compromise. "That seems prudent."
"We will be returning to this topic in the future." said Master Windu resolutely.
"Master Kenobi, connections to Duchess Satine you have, yes?" Master Yoda spoke for the second time.
Obi-wan blinked for a second or two, completely taken aback by the change in topic. He got enough of this from Ciaran dammit. "We're… acquainted, yes." he said, struggling to keep his tone neutral.
"Good. The Jedi will need to regularly obtain information about the state of Mandalore. I trust you will be able to ascertain if the Duchess' reports are anything less than truthful." Master Windu brought Obi-wan out of his shell shocked state.
I truly need to spend less time around Ciaran if that's where my mind goes while discussing plans to prevent a war. "Of course. I'll inform her that the Jedi Council would like copies of her surveillance of the new Mand'alor.
AN: If you want me to stop writing omakes, you should stop giving me such intriguing ideas.
Rejected line: "The CIS and the CNS are practically allies already, they're only one letter apart!"
Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
If it makes you feel better, that was basically what I was going to have Obi-Wan tell them anyway. You just made it much more interesting than I would have. Canon, and your third! +10 bonus. You'll have a lot of influence next turn...
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- Location
- america
how hard would it be to put the cns at, at least equal war footing with either faction?
just curious is all
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
I don't remember, have Master Yoda and Lady Ciaran properly met? Strangely enough, I believe they could find a common ground in trolling the hell out of the rest of the Jedi.
@Dr. Snark, can you clarify what "covert support of Fresia" actually means? When I update the map, should I represent it as an Abyss Watchers asset, or as an (unofficial) member of Neutral space?
Also, given our recent emphasis on economic development, I had an idea for how to use our partnership with Incom: invite them to set up factories & facilities on CNS systems (especially on refugee worlds in Neutral Space) to provide jobs and encourage economic recovery. Given the proximity of Fresia to Palpatine's power base on Coruscant, I imagine it'd be pretty easy to persuade Incom to move a significant chunk of its assets (factories and people) to our neck of the woods
Would this require a later action, or could this be included as part of our reward? I can't imagine Seti Ashgad would be eager to remain so close to Palpatine's stomping grounds, and moving to Neutral space would be a much safer arrangement than otherwise.
Also, I understand why Ashgad would keep his head down, but does he plan on letting some of the other Senators know he's still alive? Arranging a meeting with Bail Organa or Garm Bel Iblis, letting them know what Palpatine is capable of (and encouraging them to think of the CNS as a viable alternative) would be a big boost for us, and would put us in contact with the movers-and-shakers of the future Rebel Alliance...
Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
Preeeeeety hard. Right now while the CNS is going to be getting a lot more attention thanks to Jango they simply don't have the industrial capacity or sheer manpower that either side does. They do have Ciaran, and no one really knows how powerful an asset she really is...
Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
A discounted base for one, and the fact that said base will basically be a hideaway in case shit goes really south as well as helping out Incom should you choose. Also yes, it will be providing unofficial support to the CNS.
Seems legit, though Seti can only do so much on his own-it'd have to be a separate action. The will might be there but they're going to need support to make a move that big.
A future Diplomatic action will cover that. Don't worry, it's all planned. Basically, Seti's going to do his best to keep his head down and will only act if you can ensure that Palpatine can't find him.
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I did a bit more re-reading of the original Teron-run thread, and found a few more points of interest.
First off, I mentioned it in an earlier post, but here's the info for the Outer Rim Colonial Defence Force we funded:
EDIT: even after Dooku announced the Separatist alliance, we still went out of our way to take care of the 'little guys' on both sides, supplying various planetary defense forces in both the CIS and the Republic. Again: we (and by extension the CNS) should have an amazingly good reputation with most of the minor players around.
It's also worth pointing out that in those early days, we were considered a far more trustworthy partner with these systems than even Dooku was:
I also wanted to give more information about our investments and corporate assets on Kashyyyk and Castell:
All told, this means that we're so heavily invested in the Kashyyyk economy, that we're earning 100 credits per turn (140 gross, -40 upkeep) from the various engineering facilities and corporations around Alaris Prime. That's a full fifth of our 'investment' income for the entire galaxy.
Likewise for Castell:
All told, this means we're earning 150 credits per turn from businesses and trading partnerships on Castell (220 gross, -70 upkeep), which is about a third of our galactic investment income. It should also be pointed out that, besides our corporate assets, we also have strong diplomatic ties with the Commerce Guild. We heavily invested in their capital system, we previously employed (and worked closely with) their current president, and we own enough businesses to probably control a minor voting bloc within the Commerce Guild -- not as major as Shu Mai's voting bloc, or even the Sullustan-owned SoroSuub, but still significant enough to be known to them. According to the front page, we're currently as popular with the Commerce Guild as we are with the Wookies.
We also own a number of corporate assets on Neimoidia, which (together with our Baktoid vehicle factory) constitute about a fifth of our galactic investment income.
First off, I mentioned it in an earlier post, but here's the info for the Outer Rim Colonial Defence Force we funded:
And here's the canon omake giving a typical reaction from the recipients of that funding.
All that to say: the Republic gave them nothing -- the corporations gave them a few squadrons -- we gave them a fleet. We provided the means of self-defenses to systems that the Republic had failed to protect. Dooku promised them peace, and delivered them into the teeth of a galactic war. It should be very easy to sway many or most of these minor systems to abandon the CIS and join the CNS, since we've proven we're actually serious about delivering on our promises.
EDIT: even after Dooku announced the Separatist alliance, we still went out of our way to take care of the 'little guys' on both sides, supplying various planetary defense forces in both the CIS and the Republic. Again: we (and by extension the CNS) should have an amazingly good reputation with most of the minor players around.
It's also worth pointing out that in those early days, we were considered a far more trustworthy partner with these systems than even Dooku was:
Despite his position and prestige on Serenno, Dooku had to rely on our help in order to make contact with his neighbors and persuade them to join his Separatist alliance. That tells us that, whatever Dooku's ties to the galactic mega-corporations like IGBC, Commerce Guild, Techno Union, and the Trade Federation, Dooku's ties to the lesser systems around the Outer Rim (that make up the overwhelming majority of CIS Space) are far less enduring.
I also wanted to give more information about our investments and corporate assets on Kashyyyk and Castell:
This was in addition to our initial investment that I previously quoted:
All told, this means that we're so heavily invested in the Kashyyyk economy, that we're earning 100 credits per turn (140 gross, -40 upkeep) from the various engineering facilities and corporations around Alaris Prime. That's a full fifth of our 'investment' income for the entire galaxy.
Likewise for Castell:
And:
This in addition to our initial investment that I previously quoted:
All told, this means we're earning 150 credits per turn from businesses and trading partnerships on Castell (220 gross, -70 upkeep), which is about a third of our galactic investment income. It should also be pointed out that, besides our corporate assets, we also have strong diplomatic ties with the Commerce Guild. We heavily invested in their capital system, we previously employed (and worked closely with) their current president, and we own enough businesses to probably control a minor voting bloc within the Commerce Guild -- not as major as Shu Mai's voting bloc, or even the Sullustan-owned SoroSuub, but still significant enough to be known to them. According to the front page, we're currently as popular with the Commerce Guild as we are with the Wookies.
We also own a number of corporate assets on Neimoidia, which (together with our Baktoid vehicle factory) constitute about a fifth of our galactic investment income.
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We've met in the whole meeting the Council thing. We haven't had a one on one talk about all the little things.
Also I found a picture for our seeker uniform. Just add a opaque visor over the eyes:
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- Location
- america
now we just need watcher's, guardians and force agentsWe've met in the whole meeting the Council thing. We haven't had a one on one talk about all the little things.
Also I found a picture for our seeker uniform. Just add a opaque visor over the eyes:
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We gave them a fleet... And were the one who helped Dooku even build the CIS... You know... A major part of the CIS' non-droid fleet assets may be courtesy of Lady Ciaran Enterprises.
We can Naboo them so hard...
fasquardon
- Location
- UK
This whole fear about a resurgence in could be quickly assuaged in a way which both promotes closer links between CNS members and clearly defines what the aim of the CNS is in the duration of the civil war.
There are two options we can go with. What I call the CNSDF & CNSTO routes.
The CNSDF (Council of Neutral Systems Defense Force) draws inspiration from the Japanese SDF but is less concerned in the 'Self Defense' part which would restrict its actions as Japan 'renounces war as an instrument for settling international disputes and declares that Japan will never again maintain land, sea, or air forces or other war potential' (yes I get that they have their own F15/16's and Navy but they have are not explicitly used for offensive actions).
The CNSDF however would instead be a centralised command for the duration of the conflict between the Republic & CIS (this would need to be explicitly expressed) drawing forces from all the planets in the CNS as well as being able to levy a tax to be determined by the Council to fund this. It would explicitly undercut the formation of an inherently Mandalorian state instead thrusting the forces behind the idea of the CNS as opposed to strictly their planets This will allow the CNS to cohesively protect its neutrality and the space lanes that make up the CNS.
While there is the Navy that we helped build for the CNS a formal integration of command structures across all systems would increase the efficiency and as said take away the fear of a Mandalorian Empire as command of the CNS forces is achieved in such a way which will likely be spread across all competent commanders in the CNS.
The CNSTO
CNSTO (Council of Neutral Systems Treaty Organisation) however is inspired by NATO (obviously) and would instead leave the creation of fleets and a defense force to those systems in the CNS as opposed to a explicitly centralised command structure. Whilst there could be a similar position as NATO secretary general and a command structure as such to facilitate cooperation as well as plan operations between the systems military's it would be a project led by the systems that make it up. Furthermore it would be a purely defensive pact that could be up for review much like the above on the cessation of hostilities between the CIS and the Republic. Similar wording could be taken from the NATO charter where 'an attack on one system will be taken as an attack on all systems who are party to this treaty, and as such would be equal to a declaration of war on all members' it expresses the purely defensive nature of the agreement but also promotes the idea of collective security between members. Something which is surprisingly absent from the Republic as sectors and systems are just generally left to do whatever they want with defense.
There would have to be an agreement on what amount each system spends of their GDP towards the formation of an armed forces perhaps 2%? Something along those lines.
I was considering doing an omake featuring the proposals but "more in depth" from people who would propose them but I wanted to see how people reacted to the suggestions as it isn't the high memery thats characteristic of this quest. I find myself fascinated by that sort of stuff though... does that make me boring? xD
There are two options we can go with. What I call the CNSDF & CNSTO routes.
The CNSDF (Council of Neutral Systems Defense Force) draws inspiration from the Japanese SDF but is less concerned in the 'Self Defense' part which would restrict its actions as Japan 'renounces war as an instrument for settling international disputes and declares that Japan will never again maintain land, sea, or air forces or other war potential' (yes I get that they have their own F15/16's and Navy but they have are not explicitly used for offensive actions).
The CNSDF however would instead be a centralised command for the duration of the conflict between the Republic & CIS (this would need to be explicitly expressed) drawing forces from all the planets in the CNS as well as being able to levy a tax to be determined by the Council to fund this. It would explicitly undercut the formation of an inherently Mandalorian state instead thrusting the forces behind the idea of the CNS as opposed to strictly their planets This will allow the CNS to cohesively protect its neutrality and the space lanes that make up the CNS.
While there is the Navy that we helped build for the CNS a formal integration of command structures across all systems would increase the efficiency and as said take away the fear of a Mandalorian Empire as command of the CNS forces is achieved in such a way which will likely be spread across all competent commanders in the CNS.
The CNSTO
CNSTO (Council of Neutral Systems Treaty Organisation) however is inspired by NATO (obviously) and would instead leave the creation of fleets and a defense force to those systems in the CNS as opposed to a explicitly centralised command structure. Whilst there could be a similar position as NATO secretary general and a command structure as such to facilitate cooperation as well as plan operations between the systems military's it would be a project led by the systems that make it up. Furthermore it would be a purely defensive pact that could be up for review much like the above on the cessation of hostilities between the CIS and the Republic. Similar wording could be taken from the NATO charter where 'an attack on one system will be taken as an attack on all systems who are party to this treaty, and as such would be equal to a declaration of war on all members' it expresses the purely defensive nature of the agreement but also promotes the idea of collective security between members. Something which is surprisingly absent from the Republic as sectors and systems are just generally left to do whatever they want with defense.
There would have to be an agreement on what amount each system spends of their GDP towards the formation of an armed forces perhaps 2%? Something along those lines.
I was considering doing an omake featuring the proposals but "more in depth" from people who would propose them but I wanted to see how people reacted to the suggestions as it isn't the high memery thats characteristic of this quest. I find myself fascinated by that sort of stuff though... does that make me boring? xD
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Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I say go for it. Exploiting meta knowledge and is just as much a part of this quest as high memery.
Watchers are essentially spies so I don't think they wear a uniform. They'd just wear what's needed.
Guardians were difficult and I'm not sure everyone will agree with my choice, but this was what I could get without them looking heavy or impractical. Yes it looks intimidating, but our symbol isn't exactly friendly:
As for the Force Agents. I'll just show what I showed before. Just add hooded trenchcoat... and imagine the rifle as a blaster:
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