May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
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Skywalker_T-65
Writer with too many ideas.
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Bad juju.
Very very bad juju.
(Not a good idea, in other words
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Very very bad juju.
(Not a good idea, in other words
)
In the same sense that you could study the t-Virus to learn about immunology. It will certainly teach you things, but there's far easier ways to learn them and it's probably gonna end with zombies.
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Possible? Certainly. It's also possible that a rabid moose could attack my place.
I assume you mean more "is it likely to be an option"? The answer swerves much more to the negative side of things.
Could someone please answer this?
Master Basher
hYPER Demon
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Short term glance wise;
All ze money, and events too!
Medium end of Turn...
I dunno what would be more ominous; a new disaster, or how Palpatine would react. Which may start with Tax, and end with Law. And may even end with disaster risk.
Especially after the Jedi incident, or if the Sith incident is a surprise. Or our rapid expansion plans for loadsaprofit are a thing.
But yeah. If there's a "likely Palpatine reaction" gauge, it's likely high enough for another chess move against us, at least.
All ze money, and events too!
Medium end of Turn...
I dunno what would be more ominous; a new disaster, or how Palpatine would react. Which may start with Tax, and end with Law. And may even end with disaster risk.
Especially after the Jedi incident, or if the Sith incident is a surprise. Or our rapid expansion plans for loadsaprofit are a thing.
But yeah. If there's a "likely Palpatine reaction" gauge, it's likely high enough for another chess move against us, at least.
Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
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lol no
they stopped being a problem the second taris' economy went into overdrive and we all know it
Organization.
Honestly...I've got no objections all things considered. Shahdara would make a good foil to Jymeen if nothing else. (From what I've seen unlike him, Shah is actually competent and his ditziness doesn't cause catastrophes to happen.) Canon, +10.
That means we've got one more Abysswalker left for omake bounties!
(And yes, I'm aware that there's now a lot of them as someone previously mentioned. I plan on spinning up a quick guide/dossier list of them all tomorrow - would have been sooner had I not been writing the other thing.)
The Dagger can kill the Ones, who are basically the gods of the Star Wars verse. There's really nothing that can survive getting stabbed by it.
FTFY
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- Australia
Don't think it's "basically". Sidious straight up calls them "the Mortis gods".
How does that work, btw? Like, if you get pricked by its sharp edge in the finger, would the finger experience a sudden death? Would your entire existence get killed violently? Or would nothing happen other than a pricked finger?
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Given the Father stabbed himself in the stomach it probably wouldn't do anything but give you a pricked finger.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
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- Behind the Keyboard.
Well my take on this is, it would most likely to prick your finger buuut it has to heal naturally. No Force healing.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
On the subject of the Murr Talisman when we do something about it we should have the Nekghouls on hand. Since they should be obviously immune to the things effects.
Master Basher
hYPER Demon
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... Now I'm worried about Taris economy. Especially if Palpatine might throw a wrench on that 'golden goose' at this point.
But more seriously. I'd be more interested in how our current Anti-Palpatine report is going to be shaped, at this rate.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Speaking of the anti palp report, Dooku?
We've neutralised Maul and the Devestation, which as I recall were two of the things he needed gotten rid of to start supporting us, and we're in place to remove Shu Mai.
Is there a fourth?
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- alphen aan den rijn
Blackguard: 8
? so did someone go on a rant toward the grandmaster of the blackguard or something?
? so did someone go on a rant toward the grandmaster of the blackguard or something?
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- At the Edge of Insanity
Shu Mai was an optional fourth so Dooku could control the CIS better. The third thing he needed handled was Quinlan Vos.
Any Force User is immune to the effects of the Murr Talisman... the turning into Rakghoul, not the threat of being possessed by the spirit of one of the legendary Sith Lords. Besides do you want the first thing for someone who sacrifices themselves to stop a Rakghoul Superweapon is to see a bunch of Super Rakghouls?
It's interesting to consider how Celeste would react to the future. On the one hand she's a Jedi Shadow and was a member of the Jedi Covenant, dedicating her life to the organisation to the point of having her identity erased from the Jedi Order Rolls, so the Council couldn't use her for other things.
On the other hand, she possesses a strong sense of justice and is devoted to protecting the Galaxy from the Sith.
I do have to wonder how Celeste will react to the current Jedi Order. The differences of Four Thousand Years makes for a lot of changes, as though she might be a radical, she was a radical in a fairly liberal period of the Order's History. Remember that she predates Darth Revan, the last time she was active was during the Madalorian Wars.
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- London, 1935. August.
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I think someone answered this earlier, but basically she was from right after the first major war with the Sith, and was trained by a cabal of extremist Jedi who were trying to make completely sure that the Sith wouldn't rise again. She even had her name stricken from the roll of the Order so she could be used as a black ops person for the cabal.
The group figured out where the Muur Talisman was and sent her to get it so they could destroy or at least contain it. At the same time, she was supposed to assassinate an exiled padawan they had framed (obviously, they didn't tell her he was innocent of the murders he was accused of). She found both on Taris, but after meeting him started doubting that the padawan was guilty and so decided to prioritize the talisman. The padawan, unaware that she was supposed to kill him, decided to follow her and help with getting the talisman.
They tracked it to the ice planet Jebble where a bunch of Mandilorians were researching it. The talisman had apparently fused with the lead researcher and was kind of possessing him (that's just how the talisman works, it possesses people, but likes force users in particular). When the padawan found it, the talisman tried to jump to him, but Celeste saved him by letting it fuse with her, the more powerful force user, hoping she could contain it.
She only partially succeeded. She didn't go entirely crazy, but did start turning the Mandilorians into an army of rakghouls. By this point she'd decided there was no way the padawan was actually guilty and had kind of befriended him. He convinced her to be put in this stasis chamber specifically made to contain the Muur Talisman and its wearer, promising that it will only be temporary and he'd be there when she wakes up.
Unfortunately, in response to the mandilorian unit being turned into rakghouls, another mandilorian unit (led by the ancestor of Jango, I believe) nuked the planet while the padawan was off trying to communicate with someone to transport them away. He survived, but there was clearly no way she did so he left.
Except she didn't die and has been in stasis for nearly four thousand years. In the Legends timeline she's woken up by Vader and, appalled that he Jedi have been eradicated by the Sith (the exact thing her cabal was supposed to prevent), she duels him, loses, and then, to keep the Talisman from killing her and moving to Vader, she turns most of the rest of the people there into rakghouls and forces Vader to flee, stranding her on a moon empty except for her minions for decades, which drives her kind of insane.
There's a bunch more stuff about her fleeing to the unknown reaches after Luke finds her to keep the rest of the galaxy safe from the talisman, and then coming back and helping his decedent Cade Skywalker and having him destroy the talisman and kill her in the process. Basically everything in her life past her being frozen is horrible.
That's the not-exactly short but mostly complete explanation. She's part of an anti-Sith extremist Jedi organization, and Ciaran is - as Vectivus brings up in this chapter - technically a legitimate member of the Baneite Sith. At the same time, though, the Abyss Watchers as an organization are basically a more extensive version of what her cabal was trying to do. And her final mission probably very heavily changed her perspective on her bosses and force-sensitive secret organizations, but she never really got to display that character development in her original story. So there's like a fifty/fifty chance she either joins us immediately or tries to murder us.
The group figured out where the Muur Talisman was and sent her to get it so they could destroy or at least contain it. At the same time, she was supposed to assassinate an exiled padawan they had framed (obviously, they didn't tell her he was innocent of the murders he was accused of). She found both on Taris, but after meeting him started doubting that the padawan was guilty and so decided to prioritize the talisman. The padawan, unaware that she was supposed to kill him, decided to follow her and help with getting the talisman.
They tracked it to the ice planet Jebble where a bunch of Mandilorians were researching it. The talisman had apparently fused with the lead researcher and was kind of possessing him (that's just how the talisman works, it possesses people, but likes force users in particular). When the padawan found it, the talisman tried to jump to him, but Celeste saved him by letting it fuse with her, the more powerful force user, hoping she could contain it.
She only partially succeeded. She didn't go entirely crazy, but did start turning the Mandilorians into an army of rakghouls. By this point she'd decided there was no way the padawan was actually guilty and had kind of befriended him. He convinced her to be put in this stasis chamber specifically made to contain the Muur Talisman and its wearer, promising that it will only be temporary and he'd be there when she wakes up.
Unfortunately, in response to the mandilorian unit being turned into rakghouls, another mandilorian unit (led by the ancestor of Jango, I believe) nuked the planet while the padawan was off trying to communicate with someone to transport them away. He survived, but there was clearly no way she did so he left.
Except she didn't die and has been in stasis for nearly four thousand years. In the Legends timeline she's woken up by Vader and, appalled that he Jedi have been eradicated by the Sith (the exact thing her cabal was supposed to prevent), she duels him, loses, and then, to keep the Talisman from killing her and moving to Vader, she turns most of the rest of the people there into rakghouls and forces Vader to flee, stranding her on a moon empty except for her minions for decades, which drives her kind of insane.
There's a bunch more stuff about her fleeing to the unknown reaches after Luke finds her to keep the rest of the galaxy safe from the talisman, and then coming back and helping his decedent Cade Skywalker and having him destroy the talisman and kill her in the process. Basically everything in her life past her being frozen is horrible.
That's the not-exactly short but mostly complete explanation. She's part of an anti-Sith extremist Jedi organization, and Ciaran is - as Vectivus brings up in this chapter - technically a legitimate member of the Baneite Sith. At the same time, though, the Abyss Watchers as an organization are basically a more extensive version of what her cabal was trying to do. And her final mission probably very heavily changed her perspective on her bosses and force-sensitive secret organizations, but she never really got to display that character development in her original story. So there's like a fifty/fifty chance she either joins us immediately or tries to murder us.
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Sorry, I meant to quote you above, but missed it and I don't think quote ping the user on edits. So for the answer to this read that comment. Probably not necessary, but just in case.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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Whatever she does, let's prevent this part, yeah?
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Hmm, thinking about it, it seems that Celeste has the Muur Talisman under control, with her only issue being that the talisman prevents her from interacting with other sentient individuals due to fear of infecting them with the rakghoul plague. This causes her to slowly go mad from the isolation. Fortunately, due to our discovery of the population of nekghouls, who likely have acquired immunity to the rakghoul plague while remaining sapient, that issue can be nullified. So, the best solution to the issue of the Muur talisman would be to have it and it's bearer become permanent residents of the promised land.
Wouldn't just destroying the thing be safer? We have a god-killing weapon. That should be more than enough to do it.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Can we do it without killing her though...
Eh we should do it, hell she may even insist on it.
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- america
this is the good plan.
lets do this plan.
Master Basher
hYPER Demon
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- UK
Seems viable, what can go wrong?
*Celeste ends up meeting Ciaren, with an offer she couldn't refuse.*
*Achievement hunters, get's visited by Anakin, for good measure. Ends up boosting Diplomacy...*
*Cut off possession by a knife aside, ends up 'watching' us on our real reason. And ends up in BSOD over justice, and salvation... By a Crime Lord, of all people.*
*Shenanigans later, starts halping in preventing a 'Sith Victory'... By killing Palpatine. Or Jedi indirectly hear of 'good news', Celeste. Which totally won't escalate to Palpatine going WTF again.*
And don't forget, the Rakghoul issue, that may also lead to being a possible container for uh, Palpatine (if betting on having TWO Sith Lords imprisoned within her.) Or well, Mother. (But that'd be a chamber of really bad idea, matey.)