…With a little help from my friends.
…With a little help from my friends.
The Stunt demonstration for the Colombia managers has gone well and you find yourself involuntarily grinning when you over hear one of them commenting that "The Gambler" seems to be backing a good bet. Linda Lee calls back and sets a date for the meal. She hints that you should dress formally and be prepared for a business discussion. A last minute change from the planned dinner to a lunch results in Carrie and Mary unable to join you.
On your arrival a formal meal has been set up and Linda surprises you by greeting you in Cantonese, straitening your outfit and gesturing you to a place at the table. The set up of the table, if you are reading it correctly will have Linda as the host and you as the implied eldest son or Heir in the absence of the father. The implications make you wonder what exactly you have walked into.
You are soon enlightened as to why this discussion might be a bit delicate and leaning on your connection with Bruce Lee might be for the best. Linda is welcoming in Dan Inosanto, the current face of Jeet Kune Do and Jhoon Rhee, Muhammad Ali's coach for his fights against Richard Dunn and Antonio Inoki. Both are former students of Bruce Lee and technically your seniors. This is potentially going to get political.
You rise and greet them politely but receive a far more reserved greeting than you expected from each man especially considering your past experiences with them. Linda has a nervous air to her hidden under a host's mask as you sit at the table silent for a moment.
Jhoon Ree begins "I have some Loyalty to Muhammad Ali but his recent actions against you make me question him and reconsider some opinions. I am concerned enough that I am willing to offer my assistance to you in the upcoming fight. However a recent action of yours has been pointed out to me and I would like an answer… your upcoming movie, Conan?" He asks leadingly "What role does Nicholas Coppola play?"
That was not the question you were expecting. Somewhat wrong footed you begin "Nic plays a young prince who is being told the story of Conan and plays off Max Von Sydow amazingly. We wanted a young talented actor that could potentially grow into the role in future films and potentially replace Conan as the main character in his own right in future films. Nicholas fills that role even better than we expected."
Dan Inosanto and Linda Lees serous expression both lighten and the slightly oppressive air seems to disperse.
Jhoon Ree continues searching your face for something "So this Nicholas is a talented actor? He has real potential? How did he come to your attention for the role?"
"George, that is George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola go back several years. Even if they have only reconnected recently…"
Dan Inosanto interrupts turning to Jhoon "Stop. Bruce has not lost his way like you seem to think Ali has. Bruce was your recent hiring of Francis Coppola because you trapped him in a contract?"
"No." your mind goes back to a shouting match in the backrooms of Lucasfilm "We only have Francis for Two movies and the person we were seeking was Robert Evans. We have difficulty finding producers willing to work with Lucasfilm. I honestly don't know if he will stick around."
Linda smiles and takes over the conversation, both men turning to look at her. "See I told you Bruce would not be involved in the same shady practices that he has openly spoken against. He simply saw a talented actor and took a chance. Bruce is not turning into the same shady businessman he ranted about to my husband when he started out. Working with Bruce is not going to result in Bruce taking over Jeet Kune Do and pushing you out. He is still the same young man that my husband saw potential in when he told him that he wanted to be an actor and aspired to be a Legend. Now can we get to the real purpose of this meeting?"
No one sees the expression on your face as you consider that Favor Trading was the real motivation you hired Nic in the first place. You had not realized he was on the outs with Francis after arrogantly demanding a role and hiring him for Conan did not win you points with Francis. The maturity Nicholas gained on the shoot and that fact Nicholas liked working with Lucasfilm had influenced Francis far more. You open your mouth to explain but are immediately cut off by Linda
"You asked if I could get you exotic secrets such as how to get children to eat Broccoli. The answer I found is that you need to bee seen by the child eating and enjoying the same food as them. Children take their cues from the adults around them trusting them to keep them safe.
"But I don't like Broccoli" comes the almost childish whine from your throat unbidden.
All three turn to you with looks of amusement on their faces.
"Perhaps try cabbage or cauliflower then?" comes Linda's answer, like there is some secret about the three vegetables that you don't know.
"Worth a shot. Cauliflower is not bad at all."
Her smug expression means you have missed something but the conversation is moving on.
Jhoon is nodding and is the next to speak. "I apologize for questioning your character but I have heard whispers that have left me disquieted. I would like to offer my own variety of Secrets and Offer my services as a coach." His smile becomes almost Gloating "I believe you as you are now with your skill are capable of decisively beating Ali. I hope to make you even better."
"Your joking, right? You can't mean that?"
He nods and continues " I do. If you use Jeet Kune Do and not boxing in that ring I assure you Ali will go down. Even with gloves on the Kicks you Learned under Bruce will do. Ali struggled against Antonio Inoki, even with my help."
You look puzzled "But I want to fight him fairly, that means a boxing match."
Linda's smile is a little sad and conceals a great deal of worry "I am … We are concerned that Ali is not thinking well. He may not be as interested in fairness. I want you to go home safe to your wife and child."
You start to answer when Linda reaches out her and puts it on your shoulder. "My husband died when he was punched. He didn't make it back to us. If Ali goes too far, If you feel unsafe and they are not stopping I want you to do what is necessary so you go home to your family."
You hear what she is not saying and why Dan Inosanto and Jhoon Rhee are here. If you use Jeet Kune Do to destroy Ali in a boxing match, unless it is very clear that Ali should have stopped you will potentially destroy the fighting styles reputation and potentially everyone at this tables life work. The problem is by the time in a fight that it is clear to an observer that one fighter has gone too far the other fighter may be seriously injured. They need to be sure that you will be responsible before they are publicly seen with you and officially condone your actions under the legacy of Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do rather than just your personal and nearly unknown branch.
You try to crack a smile but it feels like something is a little wrong. "Well then at least then the world will see if Bruce Lees fighting style can defeat Muhammad Ali in the ring."
"Jeet Kune Do is not suited to boxing and its formalized rules. It is refined streetfighting. Bruce Lee demonstrated that when he fought Wong Jack Man in 1958. Bruce won but was very much not happy about it." Dan interjects with a grin on his face lightening the mood. "That was his only official match and means he has a perfect win loss Ratio, not something Ali can boast now can he?"
"No." comes your smiling reply "No he cannot."
Joon takes over "Nor is Ali good at dealing with Kicks. What many forget is while I taught Ali the accupunch, I taught Bruce Lee how to Kick. I would also be happy to coach you for the fight. Ali is back with Angelo Dundee as his trainer so I am not needed, if I ever was."
That sparks a question in your mind "Ali's Anchor punch the one that he said it was taught to him by actor Stepin Fetchit, who learned it from Jack Johnson. The one he used against Sonny Liston and that Bruce Lee engineered the Accupunch from, did it really exist or…"
Jhoon is carefully blank in his reply "I cannot answer that question."
You drop the subject. It seems he does know the answer but that he has been asked not to spread it. There is certainly enough controversy around that fight for All it launched Alis career.
Dan takes over the conversation thread. " I think you will benefit from going back to the beginning and some of Bruce's old obsessions. Do you remember how he used to watch Ali's fights with…"
Linda laughs and almost Groans as she cuts in "With that old mirror so he could copy the footwork in real time. I think I have that Old TV somewhere. Bruce would have loved modern VCR's with their rewind function and slow play."
Dan nods with a grin "The amount of time Bruce went on about Ail's dancing feet. Still while valuable we all know that Ali's style has changed."
Jhoon nods "And that where I come in. Jeet Kune Do, as you learned it from Bruce could have set you up to fight Ali as he was. I will help you learn to fight him as he is Now. No need to flail about like you did in that Rock em sock em toy commercial."
"Hey don't knock it. It was one of my first roles. And I maintain that I would not have got it without Bruce's help."
And with that the conversation turns to reminiscence about Bruce Lee and the impact he has had. His role in the Green Hornet as Kato is brought up and when your current work with batman is mentioned the brief crossover with the Adam west series is mentioned. That leads to discussion about Warner not casing or crediting "Kung Fu" despite him developing it. That leads to a discussion of Bruce exploitation films that have snowballed after his death and how it seems to finally be coming full circle with a parody of all those Films in Enter the Fat dragon by Sammo Hung being released in July this year.
Tactics against Ali are mentioned. Things that could hurt him if you said them. Apparently Ali loved the Beatles trained to their music was very happy to see them back together. Then your lawsuit broke them apart again. Alis motivation for the fight is considered and an interview where Ali reputedly said he was broke is brought up. So is Ferdie Pacheco, Alis long time doctor leaving because Ali is supposedly having kidney trouble and refusing to face reality.
Then you move from the table and change into something more appropriate for going through some stances. Linda has Found the old TV. As promised and acquired a mirror from somewhere. She has also acquired a new VCR and one of the students drop off a series of tapes. Some of which are clearly of questionable legality. You spend the afternoon going through a familiar routine in a familiar environment, as you break down Ali's fighting style and moves as you once did with Bruce.
As the afternoon extends you start to see things in each subsequent tape times when if you were Ali's opponent you think you would have a chance to make a Gamble on Ali's next move and potentially get some good hits in. Then the magic moment when you can, if only for a second read what Ali is going to do and you Know that in that moment if you where in the ring with Ali you could have taken full advantage of it.
If you close your eyes, it almost feels like Bruce could still be here. Then reality returns and you see Linda, Jhoon and Dan. You still have friends here willing to have your back against an opponent even Bruce Lee was wary of.
The Stunt demonstration for the Colombia managers has gone well and you find yourself involuntarily grinning when you over hear one of them commenting that "The Gambler" seems to be backing a good bet. Linda Lee calls back and sets a date for the meal. She hints that you should dress formally and be prepared for a business discussion. A last minute change from the planned dinner to a lunch results in Carrie and Mary unable to join you.
On your arrival a formal meal has been set up and Linda surprises you by greeting you in Cantonese, straitening your outfit and gesturing you to a place at the table. The set up of the table, if you are reading it correctly will have Linda as the host and you as the implied eldest son or Heir in the absence of the father. The implications make you wonder what exactly you have walked into.
You are soon enlightened as to why this discussion might be a bit delicate and leaning on your connection with Bruce Lee might be for the best. Linda is welcoming in Dan Inosanto, the current face of Jeet Kune Do and Jhoon Rhee, Muhammad Ali's coach for his fights against Richard Dunn and Antonio Inoki. Both are former students of Bruce Lee and technically your seniors. This is potentially going to get political.
You rise and greet them politely but receive a far more reserved greeting than you expected from each man especially considering your past experiences with them. Linda has a nervous air to her hidden under a host's mask as you sit at the table silent for a moment.
Jhoon Ree begins "I have some Loyalty to Muhammad Ali but his recent actions against you make me question him and reconsider some opinions. I am concerned enough that I am willing to offer my assistance to you in the upcoming fight. However a recent action of yours has been pointed out to me and I would like an answer… your upcoming movie, Conan?" He asks leadingly "What role does Nicholas Coppola play?"
That was not the question you were expecting. Somewhat wrong footed you begin "Nic plays a young prince who is being told the story of Conan and plays off Max Von Sydow amazingly. We wanted a young talented actor that could potentially grow into the role in future films and potentially replace Conan as the main character in his own right in future films. Nicholas fills that role even better than we expected."
Dan Inosanto and Linda Lees serous expression both lighten and the slightly oppressive air seems to disperse.
Jhoon Ree continues searching your face for something "So this Nicholas is a talented actor? He has real potential? How did he come to your attention for the role?"
"George, that is George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola go back several years. Even if they have only reconnected recently…"
Dan Inosanto interrupts turning to Jhoon "Stop. Bruce has not lost his way like you seem to think Ali has. Bruce was your recent hiring of Francis Coppola because you trapped him in a contract?"
"No." your mind goes back to a shouting match in the backrooms of Lucasfilm "We only have Francis for Two movies and the person we were seeking was Robert Evans. We have difficulty finding producers willing to work with Lucasfilm. I honestly don't know if he will stick around."
Linda smiles and takes over the conversation, both men turning to look at her. "See I told you Bruce would not be involved in the same shady practices that he has openly spoken against. He simply saw a talented actor and took a chance. Bruce is not turning into the same shady businessman he ranted about to my husband when he started out. Working with Bruce is not going to result in Bruce taking over Jeet Kune Do and pushing you out. He is still the same young man that my husband saw potential in when he told him that he wanted to be an actor and aspired to be a Legend. Now can we get to the real purpose of this meeting?"
No one sees the expression on your face as you consider that Favor Trading was the real motivation you hired Nic in the first place. You had not realized he was on the outs with Francis after arrogantly demanding a role and hiring him for Conan did not win you points with Francis. The maturity Nicholas gained on the shoot and that fact Nicholas liked working with Lucasfilm had influenced Francis far more. You open your mouth to explain but are immediately cut off by Linda
"You asked if I could get you exotic secrets such as how to get children to eat Broccoli. The answer I found is that you need to bee seen by the child eating and enjoying the same food as them. Children take their cues from the adults around them trusting them to keep them safe.
"But I don't like Broccoli" comes the almost childish whine from your throat unbidden.
All three turn to you with looks of amusement on their faces.
"Perhaps try cabbage or cauliflower then?" comes Linda's answer, like there is some secret about the three vegetables that you don't know.
"Worth a shot. Cauliflower is not bad at all."
Her smug expression means you have missed something but the conversation is moving on.
Jhoon is nodding and is the next to speak. "I apologize for questioning your character but I have heard whispers that have left me disquieted. I would like to offer my own variety of Secrets and Offer my services as a coach." His smile becomes almost Gloating "I believe you as you are now with your skill are capable of decisively beating Ali. I hope to make you even better."
"Your joking, right? You can't mean that?"
He nods and continues " I do. If you use Jeet Kune Do and not boxing in that ring I assure you Ali will go down. Even with gloves on the Kicks you Learned under Bruce will do. Ali struggled against Antonio Inoki, even with my help."
You look puzzled "But I want to fight him fairly, that means a boxing match."
Linda's smile is a little sad and conceals a great deal of worry "I am … We are concerned that Ali is not thinking well. He may not be as interested in fairness. I want you to go home safe to your wife and child."
You start to answer when Linda reaches out her and puts it on your shoulder. "My husband died when he was punched. He didn't make it back to us. If Ali goes too far, If you feel unsafe and they are not stopping I want you to do what is necessary so you go home to your family."
You hear what she is not saying and why Dan Inosanto and Jhoon Rhee are here. If you use Jeet Kune Do to destroy Ali in a boxing match, unless it is very clear that Ali should have stopped you will potentially destroy the fighting styles reputation and potentially everyone at this tables life work. The problem is by the time in a fight that it is clear to an observer that one fighter has gone too far the other fighter may be seriously injured. They need to be sure that you will be responsible before they are publicly seen with you and officially condone your actions under the legacy of Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do rather than just your personal and nearly unknown branch.
You try to crack a smile but it feels like something is a little wrong. "Well then at least then the world will see if Bruce Lees fighting style can defeat Muhammad Ali in the ring."
"Jeet Kune Do is not suited to boxing and its formalized rules. It is refined streetfighting. Bruce Lee demonstrated that when he fought Wong Jack Man in 1958. Bruce won but was very much not happy about it." Dan interjects with a grin on his face lightening the mood. "That was his only official match and means he has a perfect win loss Ratio, not something Ali can boast now can he?"
"No." comes your smiling reply "No he cannot."
Joon takes over "Nor is Ali good at dealing with Kicks. What many forget is while I taught Ali the accupunch, I taught Bruce Lee how to Kick. I would also be happy to coach you for the fight. Ali is back with Angelo Dundee as his trainer so I am not needed, if I ever was."
That sparks a question in your mind "Ali's Anchor punch the one that he said it was taught to him by actor Stepin Fetchit, who learned it from Jack Johnson. The one he used against Sonny Liston and that Bruce Lee engineered the Accupunch from, did it really exist or…"
Jhoon is carefully blank in his reply "I cannot answer that question."
You drop the subject. It seems he does know the answer but that he has been asked not to spread it. There is certainly enough controversy around that fight for All it launched Alis career.
Dan takes over the conversation thread. " I think you will benefit from going back to the beginning and some of Bruce's old obsessions. Do you remember how he used to watch Ali's fights with…"
Linda laughs and almost Groans as she cuts in "With that old mirror so he could copy the footwork in real time. I think I have that Old TV somewhere. Bruce would have loved modern VCR's with their rewind function and slow play."
Dan nods with a grin "The amount of time Bruce went on about Ail's dancing feet. Still while valuable we all know that Ali's style has changed."
Jhoon nods "And that where I come in. Jeet Kune Do, as you learned it from Bruce could have set you up to fight Ali as he was. I will help you learn to fight him as he is Now. No need to flail about like you did in that Rock em sock em toy commercial."
"Hey don't knock it. It was one of my first roles. And I maintain that I would not have got it without Bruce's help."
And with that the conversation turns to reminiscence about Bruce Lee and the impact he has had. His role in the Green Hornet as Kato is brought up and when your current work with batman is mentioned the brief crossover with the Adam west series is mentioned. That leads to discussion about Warner not casing or crediting "Kung Fu" despite him developing it. That leads to a discussion of Bruce exploitation films that have snowballed after his death and how it seems to finally be coming full circle with a parody of all those Films in Enter the Fat dragon by Sammo Hung being released in July this year.
Tactics against Ali are mentioned. Things that could hurt him if you said them. Apparently Ali loved the Beatles trained to their music was very happy to see them back together. Then your lawsuit broke them apart again. Alis motivation for the fight is considered and an interview where Ali reputedly said he was broke is brought up. So is Ferdie Pacheco, Alis long time doctor leaving because Ali is supposedly having kidney trouble and refusing to face reality.
Then you move from the table and change into something more appropriate for going through some stances. Linda has Found the old TV. As promised and acquired a mirror from somewhere. She has also acquired a new VCR and one of the students drop off a series of tapes. Some of which are clearly of questionable legality. You spend the afternoon going through a familiar routine in a familiar environment, as you break down Ali's fighting style and moves as you once did with Bruce.
As the afternoon extends you start to see things in each subsequent tape times when if you were Ali's opponent you think you would have a chance to make a Gamble on Ali's next move and potentially get some good hits in. Then the magic moment when you can, if only for a second read what Ali is going to do and you Know that in that moment if you where in the ring with Ali you could have taken full advantage of it.
If you close your eyes, it almost feels like Bruce could still be here. Then reality returns and you see Linda, Jhoon and Dan. You still have friends here willing to have your back against an opponent even Bruce Lee was wary of.
Whoo
That's me tapped out for boxing, at least for a while. Hopefully its enough
Faster and rougher than I would like but that what happens when you compete with a master like @Magoose . I thought I knew what I was getting into when I started and i know how annoying it can be to not write when you have inspiration and then when you do have time the inspiration goes.
With how this piece ends I don't see how i can choose anything other than
[X]Thanks Bruce for Everything (Unknown Effect)
Combined with the first half of this there are two possible trainers that can help Bruce against Ali. Jhoon Rhee and Joe Frazier. Though Bruce may already have the best backing possible with Bruce Lee.
I have tried to wrap a bit of trivia and early quest memories in this as well and at least one conspiracy theory. Hope you enjoy.
Fun fact Broccoli, Colliflower and Cabage are all the same plant. It is also kale, Brussel Sprouts, Collard greens, Savoy cabbage, kohlrabi, and Gai Lan. The differences are just different breeds similar to how dogs are the same species for much the same reasons. Namely human breeding.
That's me tapped out for boxing, at least for a while. Hopefully its enough
Faster and rougher than I would like but that what happens when you compete with a master like @Magoose . I thought I knew what I was getting into when I started and i know how annoying it can be to not write when you have inspiration and then when you do have time the inspiration goes.
With how this piece ends I don't see how i can choose anything other than
[X]Thanks Bruce for Everything (Unknown Effect)
Combined with the first half of this there are two possible trainers that can help Bruce against Ali. Jhoon Rhee and Joe Frazier. Though Bruce may already have the best backing possible with Bruce Lee.
I have tried to wrap a bit of trivia and early quest memories in this as well and at least one conspiracy theory. Hope you enjoy.
Fun fact Broccoli, Colliflower and Cabage are all the same plant. It is also kale, Brussel Sprouts, Collard greens, Savoy cabbage, kohlrabi, and Gai Lan. The differences are just different breeds similar to how dogs are the same species for much the same reasons. Namely human breeding.
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