Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

[Dean]

I actually really enjoyed this picture for a somewhat ironic reason. The image in question draws heavily from the Young Justice version of Ivo which is not how Ivo looked in quest at all (he was way more hideous and obviously visibly diseased). Still though as a statue in universe it makes sense to have this be the image Lex presents as "Ivo" since his appearance wasn't well known to many people who would contradict Lex and its much easier to make someone who looks good be marketable as opposed to someone who looks like Ivo did. As such this picture by being inaccurate to what Ivo looked like in life is accurate to what a statue or memorial to Ivo might look like in quest and I find that kind of amusing.

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I'm torn but I think this is the first time I have to go and tell someone that the fanart doesn't qualify for exp (and I feel bad that I'm doing this as I don't mean to devalue any effort you put into making this but I do think I need to draw a line somewhere). This piece is ultimately too low in connection to the quest and not quite at the level I would generally like for manipulated pictures (Lex Luthor is horribly pixilated and it feels a bit like one picture was cut out and pasted atop another one without the overall look being intended to come out that way). I appreciate the attempt here but I do think that I won't be giving exp for this one.

This image I find is the better photoshop of the two. I'm probably a bit of an egomaniac and a hypocrite for this but I enjoyed this picture a lot and found it funny.

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Rose is a teenager who appeared to blow out his brains in a psychotic fit that could have gone very wrong. The issue is less "you're to blame for putting down the shooter" and more "you're to blame for creating a situation in which a teenaged girl had to kill a man in front of hundreds of witnesses". It's considered a failure on your part because of how divisive it is that someone had to be put into that situation who wasn't supposed to do it because of the failures of the security which you arranged

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Fair enough and glad you enjoyed the other ones.
Does this count better?

Spoiler: Attempt Two!

 

[King crimson]

A tiny bit of possible horror to keep you all guessing and to let you in on a rather disturbing thing that has happened. Sinclair has been confirmed dead, Mr. Mind has not. There were thousands of people in that crowd and no one was watching for a little worm (and he is a telepath who can mind control and eat knowledge once he get close enough to someone). If Mr. Mind is not dead there are literally thousands of candidates for his new host and you don't know who they are.

@King crimson Hey, shouldn't Mari have 800 exp on her Martial? I had the picture and the omake when I donated...

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Oops slight error on my part I'll be fixing that now. Sorry for the error and thank you for pointing out I made a mistake.

 

[jonasquinn]

Rose is a teenager who appeared to blow out his brains in a psychotic fit that could have gone very wrong. The issue is less "you're to blame for putting down the shooter" and more "you're to blame for creating a situation in which a teenaged girl had to kill a man in front of hundreds of witnesses". It's considered a failure on your part because of how divisive it is that someone had to be put into that situation who wasn't supposed to do it because of the failures of the security which you arranged

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But we didn't create that situation Sinclair did! And the security failure wasn't our fault it was the polices, they were the one that Sinclair managed to get the drop on not our security! This is blatant victim blaming

I mean no offence when I say this and it's probably just my cynicism acting up but it feels kind of you wanted us to come out of this with a stained reputation so that Superman will look like more of a golden boy in comparison but with how things went the only way you could do that was having people blame us for the actions of a schizophrenic criminal for some reason

 

[Reader of all]

But we didn't create that situation Sinclair did! And the security failure wasn't our fault it was the polices, they were the one that Sinclair managed to get the drop on not our security! This is blatant victim blaming

I mean no offence when I say this and it's probably just my cynicism acting up but it feels kind of you wanted us to come out of this with a stained reputation so that Superman will look like more of a golden boy in comparison but with how things went the only way you could do that was having people blame us for the actions of a schizophrenic criminal for some reason

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But the public does not know about sinclair's mind powers from what they saw a psychopast just got past lexcorp's security and murdered a bunch of scientists which means that our security is lacking and due to that a young girl had to take a man's life.

 

[Thanatosra]

But we didn't create that situation Sinclair did! And the security failure wasn't our fault it was the polices, they were the one that Sinclair managed to get the drop on not our security! This is blatant victim blaming

I mean no offence when I say this and it's probably just my cynicism acting up but it feels kind of you wanted us to come out of this with a stained reputation so that Superman will look like more of a golden boy in comparison but with how things went the only way you could do that was having people blame us for the actions of a schizophrenic criminal for some reason

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I mean the man was yelling for Lex so all the public knows is some crazy guy broke in killed some people and wanted Lex as a hostage

But the public does not know about sinclair's mind powers from what they saw a psychopast just got past lexcorp's security and murdered a bunch of scientists which means that our security is lacking and due to that a young girl had to take a man's life.

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Don't forget that this event had most of the cities police force here which makes it even worse

 

[Dean]

But the public does not know about sinclair's mind powers from what they saw a psychopast just got past lexcorp's security and murdered a bunch of scientists which means that our security is lacking and due to that a young girl had to take a man's life.

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All they know is that someone dangerous got past security and was shot. No Mind powers were shown. And if we're smart the scientist bodies were hidden as well

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[jonasquinn]

But the public does not know about sinclair's mind powers from what they saw a psychopast just got past lexcorp's security and murdered a bunch of scientists which means that our security is lacking and due to that a young girl had to take a man's life.

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But what they do know is that he was a mentally unstable criminal that tricked the police and disguised himself as one of them

The only people that can be blamed are Sinclair himself and maybe the police, they were responsible for half the security at this event and they were the ones that failed

 

[Black King]

Oops slight error on my part I'll be fixing that now. Sorry for the error and thank you for pointing out I made a mistake.

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👍 No problem! I figured it was just something you missed. You're really good with that stuff.

The only people that can be blamed are Sinclair himself and maybe the police, they were responsible for half the security at this event and they were the ones that failed

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Nah. People will blame Lex. For one, the guy wanted Lex. For two, Lex's event is to blame. Without it, an innocent teenage girl wouldn't have to dirty/bloody her hands.

 

[Dean]

But the public does not know about sinclair's mind powers from what they saw a psychopast just got past lexcorp's security and murdered a bunch of scientists which means that our security is lacking and due to that a young girl had to take a man's life.

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All they know is that someone dangerous got past security and was shot. No Mind powers were shown. And scientist bodies weren't openly viewed hopefully.

But what they do know is that he was a mentally unstable criminal that tricked the police and disguised himself as one of them

The only people that can be blamed are Sinclair himself and maybe the police, they were responsible for half the security at this event and they were the ones that failed

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They don't know this for certain unless rumors were spread and that is a poor information.

We failed to secure our own event . Even irl, the host is blamed. Especially the rich host.

 

[Negation]

We can profit from this. The full transparancy thing will let us set the pace/depth of Corporate Transparancy. Stagg or even Wayne have more to hide than we do. And what we do need to hide, we can use our Government Contracts that are Classified as a shield.

We don't blame the cops, we use this opportunitiy to work more closely with them by meeting them and develop better technologies "to prevent such tragedies from happening again."

Obviously we need to provide full medical care to the casualties and secretly gather data to determine how they were injured to such a degree.

Edit:- Sigh. Should have sent Jinx to meet Batson. At least if we investigate him now we should be able to find Billy Batson & the Marvel Family and maybe adopt them.

 

[Sanas22]

@King crimson Was Sinclair a businessman before this event? Is media portraying this as a deal gone south between Lex and Sinclair?

We can profit from this. The full transparancy thing will let us set the pace/depth of Corporate Transparancy. Stagg or even Wayne have more to hide than we do. And what we do need to hide, we can use our Government Contracts that are Classified as a shield.

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..... Illegal Stuff, we have done in numbers. And you want to showcase that to the world?
Not only that, but you would also be opening a window for corporate espionage as well.

 

[jonasquinn]

Nah. People will blame Lex. For one, the guy wanted Lex. For two, Lex's event is to blame. Without it, an innocent teenage girl wouldn't have to dirty/bloody her hands.

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That is the definition of victim blaming! Saying that because the crazy guy with a gun was shouting for Lex means that it was his fault and that the event itself is to blame is completely shifting the blame from who it really belongs to, the guy that actually committed the crime

All they know is that someone dangerous got past security and was shot. No Mind powers were shown. And scientist bodies weren't openly viewed hopefully.

They don't know this for certain unless rumors were spread and that is a poor information.

We failed to secure our own event . Even irl, the host is blamed. Especially the rich host.

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By now it'll have been reported that a madman in a police uniform took a child hostage and opened fire

Again, this wasn't a failure of our security but of the police

 

[Gumiho]

We can profit from this. The full transparancy thing will let us set the pace/depth of Corporate Transparancy. Stagg or even Wayne have more to hide than we do. And what we do need to hide, we can use our Government Contracts that are Classified as a shield.

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Is rather not give out info on what we are doing. Frankly its none of their business.

This is a tragedy, which we can use to pin the blame on Batson.

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[Dean]

That is the definition of victim blaming! Saying that because the crazy guy with a gun was shouting for Lex means that it was his fault and that the event itself is to blame is completely shifting the blame from who it really belongs to, the guy that actually committed the crime

By now it'll have been reported that a madman in a police uniform took a child hostage and opened fire

Again, this wasn't a failure of our security but of the police

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I mean, still the event we chose to host. They'll ask where was lex? Why was the event's security so lax? Why does the child know how to fire?
This is a failure of our event and of us securing our event. We're a billionaire, we always come out as the bad by when something goes awry in our own event.

 

[King crimson]

Fair enough and glad you enjoyed the other ones.
Does this count better?

Spoiler: Attempt Two!

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This does count better.

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But we didn't create that situation Sinclair did! And the security failure wasn't our fault it was the polices, they were the one that Sinclair managed to get the drop on not our security! This is blatant victim blaming

I mean no offence when I say this and it's probably just my cynicism acting up but it feels kind of you wanted us to come out of this with a stained reputation so that Superman will look like more of a golden boy in comparison but with how things went the only way you could do that was having people blame us for the actions of a schizophrenic criminal for some reason

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The police were contacted to work with you as the security arrangements with the police were made on your behalf so it still wraps around as being "your failure" in security since you are still responsible for what the police did here (I mean it is feasible to throw them under the bus and blame them entirely but I don't think its accurate when you fund them and told them where to be and what to do).

It's a tricky situation. Yes Sinclair/Mr. Mind created the situation in which he needed to get shot but it can also be equally argued that to the public (since they don't know about Mr. Mind's mind powers) a barely coherent lunatic was able to get past LexCorp security, and stay that way before murdering people and taking hostages demanding Lex Luthor to come over there. It's not as though everyone hates you but there is controversy over what happened and your reputation is to an extent possible.

I deliberately wrote the opinion to be as difficult to pin the blame for the failure as possible. The police failed in keeping Sinclair out but they were also nominally following LexCorp's orders and complying with their demands as the security was arranged. Furthermore its Lex's event and he failed to keep the people safe but he also put his life at risk by confronting the gunman before he got shot.

I think my biggest failure in the writing of that piece was making it seem as though all of a sudden everyone hates LexCorp now. That's not what happened. Now opinions on Lex are far more mixed and every person has their own take on what happened meaning your reputation took a hit because it no longer is near perfect and now is at least somewhat divisive on certain specific manners.

I appreciate the fact that you are willing to challenge this (even if I do resent the accusation of me fixing the game a little bit as I'd like to think I've earned enough good faith for that to not be an assumption) but I think in this case you are operating on a little bit of a slanted view and interpreting the events in such a way that makes it definitively one thing rather than the more ambiguous way the events themselves are (remember you essentially have control of the police and if the police failed and they were doing things on your orders then the fault can potentially be traced back to you). You've created a clear distinction between LexCorp and the police that isn't necessarily as present once people start looking into the events (for a start the radios were all synched together regardless of if they were LexCorp or police. And if a reporter asks "Why" were you at the event" the police would likely answer "Because LexCorp arranged for us to help be security there").

@King crimson Was Sinclair a businessman before this event? Is media portraying this as a deal gone south between Lex and Sinclair?

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Sinclair sold real estate. Some of the media is attempting to portray this as a deal gone bad but there isn't enough evidence to portray it that way and there are currently conflicting narratives as everyone and their mother is using it to push for their own agenda.

 

[veekie]

Transparency for this event is fine I think. We were completely aboveboard for a change and a lone gunman nutter is...a lone gunman.

Our reputation is solid enough that this mars but doesn't do anything we can't blow off with time alone. Whereas a coverup or a diversion could blowback

 

[Sanas22]

That is the definition of victim blaming! Saying that because the crazy guy with a gun was shouting for Lex means that it was his fault and that the event itself is to blame is completely shifting the blame from who it really belongs to, the guy that actually committed the crime

By now it'll have been reported that a madman in a police uniform took a child hostage and opened fire

Again, this wasn't a failure of our security but of the police

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Here I found this for you, maybe this will help you understand how this is working in media's eyes.

How to sell a massacre: NRA’s playbook revealed

Three-year undercover sting reveals how US’ National Rifle Association handles public opinion after deadly gun attacks.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[King crimson]

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[jonasquinn]

I mean, still the event we chose to host. They'll ask where was lex? Why was the event's security so lax? Why does the child know how to fire?
This is a failure of our event and of us securing our event. We're a billionaire, we always come out as the bad by when something goes awry in our own event.

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Just because we hosted the event doesn't make us to blame if someone attacks it, Lex was there negotiating with the criminal, the security wasn't lax we trusted half of it to the police and they're the ones who fucked up and that "child" is a nearly full grown adult who attended a military academy before she took a job working for us

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The police were contacted to work with you as the security arrangements with the police were made on your behalf so it still wraps around as being "your failure" in security since you are still responsible for what the police did here (I mean it is feasible to throw them under the bus and blame them entirely but I don't think its accurate when you fund them and told them where to be and what to do).

It's a tricky situation. Yes Sinclair/Mr. Mind created the situation in which he needed to get shot but it can also be equally argued that to the public (since they don't know about Mr. Mind's mind powers) a barely coherent lunatic was able to get past LexCorp security, and stay that way before murdering people and taking hostages demanding Lex Luthor to come over there. It's not as though everyone hates you but there is controversy over what happened and your reputation is to an extent possible.

I deliberately wrote the opinion to be as difficult to pin the blame for the failure as possible. The police failed in keeping Sinclair out but they were also nominally following LexCorp's orders and complying with their demands as the security was arranged. Furthermore its Lex's event and he failed to keep the people safe but he also put his life at risk by confronting the gunman before he got shot.

I think my biggest failure in the writing of that piece was making it seem as though all of a sudden everyone hates LexCorp now. That's not what happened. Now opinions on Lex are far more mixed and every person has their own take on what happened meaning your reputation took a hit because it no longer is near perfect and now is at least somewhat divisive on certain specific manners.

I appreciate the fact that you are willing to challenge this (even if I do resent the accusation of me fixing the game a little bit as I'd like to think I've earned enough good faith for that to not be an assumption) but I think in this case you are operating on a little bit of a slanted view and interpreting the events in such a way that makes it definitively one thing rather than the more ambiguous way the events themselves are (remember you essentially have control of the police and if the police failed and they were doing things on your orders then the fault can potentially be traced back to you). You've created a clear distinction between LexCorp and the police that isn't necessarily as present once people start looking into the events (for a start the radios were all synched together regardless of if they were LexCorp or police. And if a reporter asks "Why" were you at the event" the police would likely answer "Because LexCorp arranged for us to help be security there").

Sinclair sold real estate. Some of the media is attempting to portray this as a deal gone bad but there isn't enough evidence to portray it that way and there are currently conflicting narratives as everyone and their mother is using it to push for their own agenda.

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I'm sorry for insulting you but I want to make clear that what I'm saying is that as far as the public is concerned the police and Lexcorp are separate entities, yes we worked together on this event but if a police officer messed up that isn't our fault, we didn't train or hire him

 

[Reader of all]

[X] [Aftermath] Engage in total transparency to attempt to assuage any fears of LexCorp being in the wrong by the public
- [X] [Aftermath] Write-in: Provide full medical care to the casualties while secretly gathering data to determine how & to what extent they were injured.

Everything about this event was legal and above board and by being open about revealing the information we can set the pace of the investigation.

 

[Dean]

Just because we hosted the event doesn't make us to blame if someone attacks it, Lex was there negotiating with the criminal, the security wasn't lax we trusted half of it to the police and they're the ones who fucked up and that "child" is a nearly full grown adult who attended a military academy before she took a job working for us

I'm sorry for insulting you but I want to make clear that what I'm saying is that as far as the public is concerned the police and Lexcorp are separate entities, yes we worked together on this event but if a police officer messed up that isn't our fault, we didn't train or hire him

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It is technically, as we caused a mass gathering of people.
We chose to host an event that ended horribly for no other reason than to stroke our ego[at least to the media] and it ended tragically. And a child trained to kill is still a child.
A life was taken by someone young. Not who it was or why, but the fact it happened will be, or at least should be what people point to.

 

[Sanas22]

[X] [Aftermath] Make use of your control of the police to have it seem as though you were investigated while shifting the blame onto others, more specifically Lois Lane.

 

[King crimson]

Just because we hosted the event doesn't make us to blame if someone attacks it, Lex was there negotiating with the criminal, the security wasn't lax we trusted half of it to the police and they're the ones who fucked up and that "child" is a nearly full grown adult who attended a military academy before she took a job working for us

I'm sorry for insulting you but I want to make clear that what I'm saying is that as far as the public is concerned the police and Lexcorp are separate entities, yes we worked together on this event but if a police officer messed up that isn't our fault, we didn't train or hire him

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No hard feelings

Here's the thing though you are wrong (no offence intended), you did train the police and there is actual written evidence to prove that you did.

Your actions
[ ] Train up the police
DC 10
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Major success

Training the police force proved to be something remarkably simple. All you had to do was provide more detailed instructions and training videos to accompany the supplies you had already sent to the police force. This generous donation which would help the police drill to be more ready to take on criminals would bolster the police forces strength and once again improved your reputation within the city. All in all this small endeavor was success that paid off with very little effort needed to direct it.

Results: Police martial strength increased, decreased suspicion by both police and general populace that LexCorp engages in criminal activities, improved reputation with police force.

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That was literally this turn

Here I found this for you, maybe this will help you understand how this is working in media's eyes.

How to sell a massacre: NRA’s playbook revealed

Three-year undercover sting reveals how US’ National Rifle Association handles public opinion after deadly gun attacks.

www.aljazeera.com

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So yeah things have finally gotten very political in this quest about a billionaire in the military industrial complex trying to destroy an alien and it starts with something along the lines of gun control. I have a post elaborating some of my thoughts on politics in quest and I will state I deliberately wrote the incident in question to be possible to blame multiple people (and the only one who is truly one hundred percent at fault is Mr. Mind who no one is even aware of in quest). Here is the post I wrote on politics in this quest if you want to dive into that can of worms

On Politics and their Role in this Quest

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[Kufufu]

[X] [Aftermath] Make use of your control of the police to have it seem as though you were investigated while shifting the blame onto others, more specifically Lois Lane.

 

[Gumiho]

[ ] [Aftermath] Make use of your control of the police to have it seem as though you were investigated while shifting the blame onto others, more specifically Lois Lane.