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yes but also clear up batman so he can come after us
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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
- Thread starter King crimson
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I honestly just don't wanna touch batman, and recruiting test subjects is an easy way to piss him off. The hero units in Arkham aren't worth it for the most part, and while increasing security would be good, it may bring unwanted heat on our head.
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Honestly, I want to side with Parker here. He is doing the job we hired him for & we do want the best for Helfern. We really should get him back on therapy. Parker has also been good for Mick to deal with his pyromania.
Torgamous
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For practical outcomes, yes, and one of the weaknesses of this format is that that's the only kind. But I still think you're underestimating how significant fighting is to Cassandra. It was the only language she spoke for ten years, and for eight of those learning it was the focus of her entire life aside from the very occasional moments where David Cain would larp as a dad. Being able to communicate with her on that level will be good, especially once she starts growing into her own person. It might not strictly have to be for self defense if you'd prefer to develop a highly sophisticated tickle torture technique or something.
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OK but on a scale of 0 to 10, where 10 is literally the Devil, Lex is like... I dunno, a 3 or a 4, tops?
My big concern is that, going by the wiki entry that I may have misunderstood, Dr. Martin sometimes sleeps with her patients?
I mean I'm open to going for it in the fullness of time. It's just... got a looot else on my plate.
I mean, I sympathize with Dr. Parker.
But if he's going to get all judgmental of Dr. Helfern's work, then he's not going to be able to treat Helfern effectively. You can't call a man's life's work "abominable" or whatever and expect to be able to engage with his depression and grief issues.
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So what do we do about riddler 2 should we let Nygma go after him? I for one would rather Nygma's missions should send him as far away from gotham as possible until Riddler 2 is found on the other hand letting him go to gotham to catch riddler 2 should get us coop with him.
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The problem is that 'asshole' hero units tend not to be very grateful for what we do for them, and Nygma is kind of an asshole.
Also, the danger is that if we send Nygma back to Gotham, he'll start committing Riddler crimes, and the Batman will come after him, and connect him to us. I'd be much happier if Nygma could do this the 'private investigator' way and just find Copy-Riddler himself. But I don't trust his compulsive behaviors not to screw this up.
Gumiho
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I feel there is a strong possibility that he might go investigate anyway regardless of what we tell him to do.
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Here's my outline for the first two episodes of Knights of Camelot. Thanks to Simon for the support!
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Also, regarding Nygma? We're a supervillain. Let's act like it. Impostors who try to ruin our people's cred? Need to be dealt with. This might not be the smartest decision, but I still think it's the right one.
Outline: Knights of Camelot
Outline: Knights of Camelot Season 1 of Knights of Camelot sets up the basic scenario. We meet with a young Arthur, just married to Guinevere, as he and his friends try to govern Camelot - and thus, Britain - well. There's a bit of historical revisionism, as several female characters have strong...
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Also, regarding Nygma? We're a supervillain. Let's act like it. Impostors who try to ruin our people's cred? Need to be dealt with. This might not be the smartest decision, but I still think it's the right one.
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King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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Lucifer is actually one of the nicer big name demons all things considered (Trigon's a horrible being, Belial is a raging bag of anger, entitlement, pride and sadism, Beelzebub is a quite methodical monster who brings out the worst in people and aids terrible people to be even worse etc.) in comparison to most of them Lucifer's ennui makes him the least actively evil and he can feel loyalty and comradery towards others. So even literally the Devil would most likely not be the most evil thing in the DC universe.
I'd personally place Lex at his absolute worst at a 5 on the evil-o-meter (He sometimes is more morally reprehensible than even the Joker sometimes) and at best he's a -5 (a good person with severe vices and flaws). Joker for comparison stays pretty consistently between 2 and 7 on the evil-o-meter in my opinion.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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I've gotten around to reading it. I enjoyed it a lot. Things have been set up really well in these first two episodes and I'm super interested in what comes next. Stand-out characters in this piece so far are Lancelot (who I figured would be a big deal) and Jason Blood (who was executed with a surprising amount of nuance and turned out to quickly be one of my favorites). I also really liked the red right hand thing and the set up for Morgaine to be a major player later. The themes are interesting and have already begun to show up (Jason wants a realpolitik ruler, Morgaine wants to free her son, Lancelot is miserable with his wife but proud of his son, Arthur is unsure of his kingship etc.). This is really strong and really good. I'm really blown away here by how good it is.Here's my outline for the first two episodes of Knights of Camelot. Thanks to Simon for the support!
Outline: Knights of Camelot
Outline: Knights of Camelot Season 1 of Knights of Camelot sets up the basic scenario. We meet with a young Arthur, just married to Guinevere, as he and his friends try to govern Camelot - and thus, Britain - well. There's a bit of historical revisionism, as several female characters have strong...
Also, regarding Nygma? We're a supervillain. Let's act like it. Impostors who try to ruin our people's cred? Need to be dealt with. This might not be the smartest decision, but I still think it's the right one.
The one thing I will have to ask is if it is fine if I change the references to Morgana are instead changed to Morgaine (the Arthurian character in DC is called Morgaine while Morgana is a pretender of some sort usually. Less historically accurate to our world but a tighter link in the DC universe from what I understand of it).
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I mean there was a time in comics when the riddler was a good guy and did help the cops as a PI. We should also try to convince him that it is a better punishment for the fake riddler to be arrested instead of killed.
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Or we can talk Nygma into hunting copycat criminals as a profitable side job.
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Thank you. The name has been changed; I have some ideas for further episodes. Major plotlines would be:
* Mark, Tristan and Isolde. Mark/Isolde is a purely political marriage, and Mark doesn't really have a problem with Tristan and Isolde, as long as it's discreet. Sir Palamedes is a bit unhappy, as he is in love with Isolde himself, but he helps keep the secret; that's he's best buddies with Tristan after the initial tournament rounds him a bit. Morgaine, via Blood or scrying, will discover this and leak Tristan's affair. Sadly, now King Mark will have to act, leading to tragedy. (Or maybe a happy end, via the pine tree thing). Would be a recurring B-plot for five or six episodes; the big blowout would be an A-plot.
* Arthur would go out on a campaign, leaving Lancelot and Sir Kay behind to guard Camelot, charging Lancelot with the protection of Guenevere. This would be quite kosher (we're still in S1), but there would be seeds sown for the later infidelity - Lancelot, the older, wiser man, whose marriage is all but a sham, listen to Guen about her place in the world, about how she's *trying* to love Arthur and offer his (sincere) advise. Yet, these two begin to realize the strengths of each other; that both of them love Arthur in some kind of way gives them another similarity to bond over. This entire plot would be contrasted with Tristan/Isolde - including that both Guen and Lancelot have a better head on their shoulders and desist.
I know the Joker's done it at least once.
Edit: Stealing the Riddler's gimmick, that is.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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Conundrum, the Puzzler, Quiz and Enigma are all riddle or question themed supervillains.
And that's without touching longer shots like Query and Echo (traditionally Riddler's henchwomen) or imitators.
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Hmm.
Well, if we add Cerise, that may help- since Copy-Riddler leaves clues at crime scenes, it should be possible to use that tracking spell on him.
I mean yes, but he's still evil enough- at least in scale- that I can excuse his therapist for being given pause.
I mean, here we have Dr. Parker freaking out over a mutated rabbit for crying out loud; how would he handle having Lucifer for a client?
ebolasos
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That brings batmans attention to us back up which we don't want at all currently, plus Gothams Psychos wouldn't really appreciate us making it harder for them to break out or use as test subjects
I can already see a mob of them trying to kill lex for it so no thanks let's leave anything to deal with the batman alone unless he starts taking active steps agasint us then let's show him up.
To be fair to Parker it's not like he expected to deal with scientists that can create abominations agasint nature or the mentally ill patient that's making them with out remorse.
I think taking him aside and reminding him Karl is sick and needs all the help he can provide and that if he needs more resources or specialists to aid him in making sure our employee's remain both mentally stable and healthy.
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I'm honestly skeptical of whether or not this will work.
If he's already telling his patient that said patient's research is "sick," then the patient-therapist relationship is fundamentally broken and unlikely to be repaired. The usual correct solution in this case is for the patient to get a a new therapist, so if we see Dr. Parker as being in large part here to help Dr. Helfern, we should seriously consider hiring a second psychiatrist or firing Parker and replacing him.
Meanwhile, we're learning that Parker is very shockable by the kind of things LexCorp's secret side does. That's BAD. Sooner or later he's going to find out about something worse than mutant bone-rabbit-monsters.
For that matter, what IS the worst thing he knows about us?
ebolasos
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Oh I understand that, I don't think Parker will make anymore progress with Karl after this, it's why I mentioned if he needs more resources he can outsource any patient's he can't handle onto someone that can handle it.
In regards to him being easily shocked it depends, letting him adjust and slowly get more used to the weird stuff could work.
But we could keep it safe, hire more psychologists/therapists and assign him to more mild cases, I don't think firing him is worth it.
As for the worse thing he knows I'm pretty sure it's just Karls experiments, didn't Karl tell him how he had to dispose some test subjects and he was shocked and disgusted by it?
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@King crimson - why does Parker consider Karl's research to be sick?
ebolasos
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I know I'm not king crimson but I think the average person would find research that mutates any living creatures bone structure into monstrous forms to be sick, as well as how he treats the test subject animals and how gleefully he explained the process of terminating them.