Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo in Vlatava

[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving

[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing
[X] [IP] Improved battery life

[X] [KMO] Refuse to sell batteries to Keystone Motors

[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life

[X] [Name] Snowy

[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you

No. We do not touch the clown, he's Bats' problem. We will have more headaches coming soon.
 
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[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo in Vlatava

[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving

[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Tools for application development by third parties
[X] [IP] Improved battery life

[X] [KMO] Let Keystone Motors buy batteries from you

[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life

[X] [Name] Snowy

[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you
 
An individual known as Nick Olson from the Gotham area has requested that you construct him a service robot that is shaped like a clown dressed in a captains uniform. This person has offered to pay you 10,000 dollars in cash for the commission and has sent 2,000 dollars in unmarked bills as proof that they are good to pay for it. This request is highly unusual since LexCorp does not make custom models. Ultimately you have to decide if the money and gratitude of this Nick Olson is worth potentially getting involved in some dirty dealings. After all clowns in the greater Gotham area never lead to anything good.
Ugh. This is how the Joker was able to get a Zeppelin - some fools decided to accept the commission without asking questions.
 
I wonder if Supes would even use a l-phone but it would be a pain for him to save people who have kypronite phone batteries
I don't think we've miniaturized the technology down far enough.

Also, we should take "Learn about kryptonite" a time or two in the near future to make sure we know about any problems with the cars while there's still time to recall them.

@King crimson

Is there any way for us to prioritize safety investigation as a focus for kryptonite research? Like, I'm not actually that interested in learning about red kryptonite, but specifically wanting to know that the kryptonite tech we're building is safe for the mass market.

I REALLY want to go into apps and software for the phone, BUT I also know that the sooner we rip off this band-aid and get it the less we worry about it later, maybe open up options to improve survivability in other environments or climates, or water proof other equipment which we can then sell/trade to Atlantis. I just don't want us selling these phones with so much tech, but then have constant returns and exchanges if it bricks because of water when we can deal with it early. On a personal note every member of my family has had a phone ruined due to water damage, like dropping it in the toilet, in the pool, slipping in the rain. I've lost a phone when my water bottle was open in my backpack and soaked my phone when I left it in the locker for P.E.
Oddly I have never had a problem with it. OK, I'll vote for preloaded apps, waterproofing, and longer battery life.



[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis

Again, I don't see why not. Plus we have so many layers of security in our headquarters tower that if it's a double cross, we have a much better than average chance of stopping Count Vertigo even if he uses his disorientation-inducing powers.

[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground enter negotiations with the unknown individual

I'm open to either of these but prefer 'spy.'

[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing
[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Improved battery life

@HavocOrder0999 has convinced me

[X] [KMO] Let Keystone Motors buy batteries from you
[X] [KMO] Refuse to sell batteries to Keystone Motors

I can see this either way- as long as we don't court a reputation for sabotaging our own products.

[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life
[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant while also installing a device that can release a toxin to kill him at a later date

Again, open to either, though I do have some misgivings about the 'kill switch' option.

[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you
 
@King crimson

Is there any way for us to prioritize safety investigation as a focus for kryptonite research? Like, I'm not actually that interested in learning about red kryptonite, but specifically wanting to know that the kryptonite tech we're building is safe for the mass market.
Not really. The focus is on the properties first and foremost and that tells you if it is safe to use.

So if we're talking about the priority already set it's properties of kryptonite which extrapolate into safety stuff for kryptonite and then esoteric effects and such of kryptonite. You are already way more likely to discover if it's a carcinogen versus the variation in emitted energy of red kryptonite compared to regular stuff.
 
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[X] [IP] Better cameras
[X] [IP] Tools for application development by third parties
[X] [IP] Intelligent search recommendations

We really should do intelligent search recommendations as it would allow LexCorp to start dictating tastes...and business. Also, it means that we would be collecting HUGE amounts of information on a phone, and have a really good reason to do so that people wouldn't object too much to. Thus justifying our potential data mining.

It's not spying! It's for our search recommendations!
 
[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis

Best idea due to the wards we have, if he tries anything we're covered, if someone tries to interrupt the meeting we have protection.

[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground enter negotiations with the unknown individual

[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing
[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Improved battery life

[X] [KMO] Refuse to sell batteries to Keystone Motors

[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life

Ivo I think would find an extra device, unless he has a heart attack and we hide it in a pacemaker or something there's only so long before he finds it during a check. Alot of his desperation is due to the limited time he has left and he wants to complete his masterpiece.

@King crimson
Does there exist a possibility that with near-infinite time on his hands, rather than attack us, it would be more likely he'll fly around and collect knowledge to show off how much smarter he is? The way he is portrayed in this quest doesn't really strike me as the kind who wants to punish the world despite his cynicism, he just wants the recognition to go with all he's done, and hates that he's too frail to do so.

[X] [Name] Quadrumana

[X] [Clown] Agree and create the commissioned service robot but include a tracking chip to figure out who Nick Olson really is.
[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you

If we do it, lets get some info out of it, if not then lets phrase it in a way that acts like its beyond our current capabilities, or we can't reliably alter the current design.
 
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@King crimson
Does there exist a possibility that with near-infinite time on his hands, rather than attack us, it would be more likely he'll fly around and collect knowledge to show off how much smarter he is? The way he is portrayed in this quest doesn't really strike me as the kind who wants to punish the world despite his cynicism, he just wants the recognition to go with all he's done, and hates that he's too frail to do so.
I cannot answer this question.
 
[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
[X] [IP] Tools for application development by third parties
[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing

[X] [KMO] Let Keystone Motors buy batteries from you
[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life

[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you
 
@King crimson
Understood. I have questions about surveillance satellites and orbital weapons. Do we have to tell anyone when we send something up? Do they need to inspect things or are we required by law to mention something to anyone, like can we tell General Eiling and that covers it, or even keep the true purpose secret even from our employees? With orbital weapons, can they be laser weapons, missiles, or even kinetic weapons (I know it would be crazy to use that last one on our own planet, just want to know if the option exits). Can the military or companies ask to launch things up for them, and then we bug them or sabotage them? Can anyone currently attack any space assets we put up?
 
So Guys if we manage to capture Blindspot, do we experiment on him or turn him over to Sam Lane as a "not a bribe" and have him like us to drive Lois insane?
 
[x] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis
[x] [IP] Better cameras
[x] [IP] Tools for application development by third parties
[x] [IP] Improved battery life
[x] [KMO] Let Keystone Motors buy batteries from you
[x] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life
[x] [Name] Machamp
[x] [Clown] Agree and create the commissioned service robot but include a tracking chip to figure out who Nick Olson really is.
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
 
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[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis
[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing
[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Improved battery life
[X] [KMO] Let Keystone Motors buy batteries from you
[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life
[X] [Name] Machamp
[X] [Clown] Agree and create the commissioned service robot but include a tracking chip to figure out who Nick Olson really is.
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
 
If we know that Kriptonite gives cancer, why should we sell the batteries to Keystone Motors? That seems like an unnecessary risk.

Edit: To clarify, I mean 'us', not Lex Luthor.
 
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@King crimson
Understood. I have questions about surveillance satellites and orbital weapons. Do we have to tell anyone when we send something up? Do they need to inspect things or are we required by law to mention something to anyone, like can we tell General Eiling and that covers it, or even keep the true purpose secret even from our employees? With orbital weapons, can they be laser weapons, missiles, or even kinetic weapons (I know it would be crazy to use that last one on our own planet, just want to know if the option exits). Can the military or companies ask to launch things up for them, and then we bug them or sabotage them? Can anyone currently attack any space assets we put up?
No you don't have to tell anyone. You can also lie as to it's true purpose.

The only way it's going to be legal is when you are either selling it to the government or are doing it on the governments explicit orders. Eiling would be willing to cover for you but he isn't allowed to commission these things on his own in secret.

Currently they are laser weapons but you can equip missiles and kinetic lasers if you want to.

No one will ask you right now to launch stuff as you're untested but in the future you could sabotage or leave in backdoors for yourself if you want to.

Currently both the American and Russian government have proven spacefaring capabilities and a lot more could knock it down if they really wanted to.

Questions like "can anyone attack us" are not the best because I can almost always say that Trigon or Darkseid or such could because it completely lacks nuance. There is nowhere you cannot be attacked no matter where you go if certain entities decided they wanted to do so.
 
Questions like "can anyone attack us" are not the best because I can almost always say that Trigon or Darkseid or such could because it completely lacks nuance. There is nowhere you cannot be attacked no matter where you go if certain entities decided they wanted to do so.

I poorly phrased that, my bad. What I meant to say was of the factions or groups we have encountered (League of Assassin's, Intergang) but I'm guessing that would draw too much attention, and I don't think any other corporate entity can do space launches at this point. Can we do zero-g flights down the line? Currently they charge a little over $5,400 per seat.
 
I poorly phrased that, my bad. What I meant to say was of the factions or groups we have encountered (League of Assassin's, Intergang) but I'm guessing that would draw too much attention, and I don't think any other corporate entity can do space launches at this point. Can we do zero-g flights down the line? Currently they charge a little over $5,400 per seat.
Intergang has lost their alien contacts but they could potentially if they got back into contact, the League of Shadows could steal a rocket and attack it if they wanted to but they probably won't go to the effort and the DOMA works for the US government which could attack an object in space if they wanted to.

Wayne can also do spaceflight but hasn't under Philip Kane since he viewed it as not very profitable.

Zero-G flights is a possibility down the line.
 
I don't mean combat robots, I mean flying meter maids.
You haven't made flying meter maids either (which would be developing the service robots to build a specialized model). The spy drones are built primarily to be spy drones so they aren't easily repurposed into something else. If you want a police bot to use as obfuscation for a spying device then you need to build a police bot
 
[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
[X] [IP] Tools for application development by third parties
[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing

[X] [KMO] Let Keystone Motors buy batteries from you
[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life

[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you
 
So Guys if we manage to capture Blindspot, do we experiment on him or turn him over to Sam Lane as a "not a bribe" and have him like us to drive Lois insane?
I mean, my impression is that Blindspot's secret is some kind of tech. He's not interesting to experiment on, and handing him over as "we found an invisible guy, we strongly suspect he's involved in the attack on Lois Lane" would work.

The only problem is that you wouldn't be able to prove it in court, I think... nobody got a good look at the invisible man while he was attacking Lois, did they?

If we know that Kriptonite gives cancer, why should we sell the batteries to Keystone Motors? That seems like an unnecessary risk.
We don't know whether kryptonite causes cancer and @King crimson isn't telling us. We did massively expose some prisoners to huge amounts of kryptonite to see if it gave them cancer quickly, but holding captives in a secret dungeon in your basement is risky so we had to terminate the experiment (and the prisoners) within, like, a few weeks or months.

The known risks from kryptonite are basically limited to "touching it can give you nasty sunburn," with the caveat that the sunburn can escalate into skin cancer in principle. You wouldn't want to inhale or ingest it because if it's inside your body it'll do the same things to the inside of your lungs or digestive tract- emit electrons energetic enough to ionize atoms, but too low to be direct products of a nuclear reaction.

But at the same time, there are a shitload of things we routinely use in industry and in commercial goods that would be carcinogenic or otherwise toxic if you ate them or ground them up and inhaled them. It's not necessarily an obstacle. The real question is whether there's some other kind of radiation associated with kryptonite, and what it does to people. Tracking down the Kryptonite Man would probably help with that.

...

Also, cards on table, this is a comic book universe and people appear to be more tolerant of the idea that there can be weird chemicals around that in a freak accident could cause unusual forms of harm.

@King crimson

Instead of developing Spy Drones, could we develop Police Drones and have a hidden backdoor allowing us access to use them as Spy Drones?
We may want to send spy drones to places the police cannot go. For example, we might want to dispatch swarms of spy drones into the Arctic to find Intergang's remaining bases, or use them to tail a person from city to city.

Police forces operate in specific, limited jurisdictions and the actions of any drones they operate will be subject to bureaucratic oversight. They won't be a reliable asset that serves our purposes all the time.

I don't mean combat robots, I mean flying meter maids.
I think what it comes down to is that we totally could develop drones that would help the police, and we totally could install backdoors into them, but we haven't done the groundwork to make that possible in the short term. And as I point out, they wouldn't be a good substitute for having our own spy drone fleet.

Guys do not sell the batteries just yet we still do not know for certain if kryptonite is truly safe or not.
That's a fair point. We THINK kryptonite is safe, but we're not sure.



[X] [Meet] Meet with Count Vertigo at LexCorp tower in Metropolis

[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground spy on the unknown individual before leaving
[X] [Confront] Have the people on the ground enter negotiations with the unknown individual

[X] [IP] Basic waterproofing
[X] [IP] Basic applications preinstalled
[X] [IP] Improved battery life

[X] [KMO] Refuse to sell batteries to Keystone Motors

[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant and save his life
[X] [ICU] Give Ivo the transplant while also installing a device that can release a toxin to kill him at a later date

[X] [Clown] Refuse as LexCorp doesn't make custom models and send back the 2,000 dollars Nick Olson has sent you
 
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