Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
[X] [subvote] Split the subvotes into an approval and plan category

Not really seeing a problem with the custom clownbot...as long as we didn't add any illegal mods.
 
Before I vote to make the clownbot, I just want to know if this is something we do routinely.

It's like, if this is the only custom robot we've made, then it's going to look suspicious. We should just give the Joker (or his pseudonym) his money back and tell him we'll be happy to sell a conventional service robot that he can decorate as he sees fit, though aftermarket modifications may void the warranty.

But if we've already made hundreds of custom robots because there are people who want service robots for their mansion that look like hula girls or pirates or Oompa-Loompas or whatever, that's different. Then what we're doing is unremarkable and no one is likely to hold us in suspicion.

Dammit, now you mentioned Lois, you have me more worried. If she gets a wind of this, its even more reason to stick her nose in.
Again, I just don't think this is going to be very remarkable.

Again, it's like if the Joker bought a car, and turned into a Death Clown Car. It's remarkable, but not a scandal for the auto manufacturer as long as they didn't do anything wrong.

I feel the next turn, we should fully focus on people. I.e Kyrptonite man, lucy, do things our employees like, recruit a bit.
To an extent. Though we're approaching the point where we really need to decide how much effort we're going to put into A.M.A.Z.O. Ivo doesn't have more than a few more turns, I suspect; he's needing organ replacement so often that some kind of total systemic failure seems likely within, say, 12-18 months? If we want to effectively drop the project we can just keep throwing him at it and take no supporting actions; we'll get a few more spinoffs and he'll probably die before it's complete. If we want him to succeed, or even come close to success, we should take some supporting actions like "work on Red Tornado data."

Meanwhile, Kryptonite Man is going to be a hard-sell diplomatically, and important enough that if we try it we should probably put Lex (Diplomacy 31) and a good team (say, Pamela and Roxy, whose combined bonuses probably stack up into the 80s or 90s) on the job. I want to do well on that role because he's a tremendous asset for him if we ever manage to sic him on Superman.
 
Not really seeing a problem with the custom clownbot...as long as we didn't add any illegal mods.
EUC laws dude. We are an arms manufacturer. Violation of this is a big ass Red Flag that will ensure the Pentagon never buys from us again.

The unmarked bills offered upfront already triggered my paranoia even if it was not from Gotham.
 
We could just reject the order on the basis that we do not do custom jobs and just return the money or just make up a bull shit reason. Lex should know that he should not touch gotham with a ten foot pole unless it is taking in people who would rather be anywhere else.
 
EUC laws dude. We are an arms manufacturer. Violation of this is a big ass Red Flag that will ensure the Pentagon never buys from us again.

The unmarked bills offered upfront already triggered my paranoia even if it was not from Gotham.
Only applies if the clownbot is armed.
People with robot clown fetish built for amusement are responsible for the rest
 
EUC laws dude. We are an arms manufacturer. Violation of this is a big ass Red Flag that will ensure the Pentagon never buys from us again.

The unmarked bills offered upfront already triggered my paranoia even if it was not from Gotham.
Hmmm. Arguably.

On the other hand, we market a lot of products that aren't weapons and don't normally require an end-user certificate. Our service robots are not designed for combat and presumably aren't particularly threatening or dangerous.

I think the analogy here is more like "what if Ford sells someone an aesthetically customized car and they use it to commit crimes?" If Ford specifically souped up the car to have a more powerful engine or armor plating or something, they might get in trouble. But if all Ford did was paint the car green with purple question marks or something, they're not responsible for the fact that the Riddler used it as a getaway car.

Legally, as far as I know there are no restrictions on who Ford can sell a car to. They can take cash if they want. The laws govern what the buyer does with the car (i.e. "driving without a license"), and that the seller not knowingly design a vehicle suitable for criminal misuse under circumstances that make them complicit in the crime.

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(EDIT: It's like, General Electric sells toaster ovens. They also sell military jet engines. If a criminal uses one of their toasters in a crime, that doesn't mean the Air Force will stop buying jet engines from them)

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If the Joker stabs someone in the eye with a pencil, their next of kin can't sue the pencil manufacturer. Not even if it's a special custom batch of pencils the Joker ordered specially and had mailed to a dummy address.

But we're in a very different situation if our service robots can, in the normal course of things, be ordered to commit acts of violence.

@King crimson , do you have any comments on this?

We could just reject the order on the basis that we do not do custom jobs and just return the money or just make up a bull shit reason. Lex should know that he should not touch gotham with a ten foot pole unless it is taking in people who would rather be anywhere else.
I am broadly agreeable to this, provided that it's actually true that we don't take custom jobs.

Most large scale manufacturers don't, after all; they leave that to smaller-scale boutique outfits or to after-market modifications.
 
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I'm on the side of just returning Joker his money and not giving him the bot. Even if LexCorp can't be blamed for what he does with it, I don't want the company's products being mixed in that guy's crimes in the slightest.

In another subject, what kind of hiring do you think we need to do next?

The investigation actions in Intrigue have been barely touched in several turns, and their DC are rising. If we want to do anything in that area, we should get the Private Investigator and invest in a spying net.
Now that we intent to further foray into magic, more occultist under Rebecca would lower DC and increase results.
And with how much LexCorp is growing, either Competent Assistants or Managers and Executives would probably prevent problems caused by Lex being stretched too thin.
 
Hypothetically, if we took actions to buy out S.T.A.R. Labs directly, could we have a chance of recruiting Michaels anyway? Mechanically speaking, what would happen if we succeeded in buying out a major corporation with relevant resources? It would probably be overpowered if buying out S.T.A.R. Labs in a hostile takeover got us all their assets and hero units, but how would you handle that? Would there be a 'point buy' process where we get to decide what we keep? Would you work out what we keep depending on the margin of success and just inform us what we'd gotten?
You'd get the resources and the leaders of the company that stayed on would become hero units assuming you buy it out but keep it as a company separate from LexCorp. If you cannibalize the company and fold it into an existing one then you are on a point but system for which hero units you keep.
@King crimson

Will we get a chance to "try to neutralize the guy who keeps ramming our wards?" If an invisible guy is slamming himself into the wards repeatedly, does Rebecca have enough fine control for us to narrow down his location and try something like a wide area spell, sleeping gas, or some countermeasure that bypasses his invisibility (if nothing else, a hand grenade tossed in his direction?) Will we get a vote on this?
You'll have to do a bit of set up for that. Rebecca couldn't pinpoint a location because the person in question slammed into the wards from multiple different angles and positions before leaving and rarely tried to get in from the same location twice in a row.
@King crimson

Have we previously made custom service robots for other customers? Is "Nick Olson" asking for anything significantly out of the ordinary, or is he asking for something we wouldn't think twice about if it weren't coming from Gotham?
Nick Olson is asking for something bizarre and you've gotten no custom orders like this before.
@King crimson , are our service robots strong and durable enough to do as Captain Clown did in that DCAU episode? I mean, do they have the requisite performance?
No they are not. They can get close but they are inferior to Captain Clown

The Metropolitan Clan Interlude:
Approach to Petersburg

The Indirect Approach

The assault on Confederate lines at Cold Harbor had been a disaster. While the battles in the Wilderness and at Spotsylvania Court House had been bloody for both sides, this had turned into a one-sided slaughter of Union troops. Grant didn't fool himself into thinking further attacks over the same ground would achieve better results. Instead, he planned an indirect approach to undermine Lee's strength and force him out of his strong position.

Firstly, at Grant's direction, Union forces in the Shenandoah Valley in the western parts of Virginia went on the attack, threatening the bases from which Lee drew much of his army's food and supplies. Secondly, Grant ordered Sheridan's cavalry on another far-ranging raid, targeting the Virginia Central Railroad around Charlottesville. Sheridan had been successful, both in battles against his Confederate counterparts and in inflicting general destruction on their military infrastructure; perhaps he could repeat or surpass his earlier results.

Grant's first two actions forced Lee to divert infantry- and most of what was left of his battered cavalry- to defend the Shenandoah and counter Sheridan's raid. This would make it easier for Grant to accomplish his third goal. Grant planned to echo his earlier success at the Battle of the North Anna, by quietly breaking contact with Lee and moving the bulk of the Army of the Potomac to a location more suitable to further gains for the Union.

Sheridan Rides Again

Sheridan was intercepted quickly, but even though Meade and Grant had not been so bold as to dispatch all their cavalry, they way they did at Spotsylvania Court House, he still greatly outnumbered the Confederates almost three to two in horsemen. Furthermore, his men had Spencer repeating carbines, and could match the fourteen cannon of the Confederate horse artillery with seventeen of their own- and four batteries totalling twenty-one operational Luthor guns.

Sheridan kept up a ruthless pace. Horses that couldn't keep up with the advance in the heat of a Virginia summer were left by the wayside- shot dead so that the Confederates couldn't nurse them back to health. Sheridan strove to travel light. His men carried only enough food for three days; he expected them to feed themselves by pillaging the countryside, which they did. The Confederates, whose command structure was still divided with J.E.B. Stuart slowly convalescing in Richmond after a long battle with an infection in the wound on his back, managed to intercept them nonetheless.

On June 11th, the two forces clashed, with one violent skirmish after another as cavalry advanced, retreated, or dismounted to make a stand. The Confederates did their best to fight defensively, trading ground for time and Union casualties, in hopes of neutralizing the advantage of Sheridan's heavy weapons. However, in the process, they left an opening that George Armstrong Custer and his Michigan 'Wolverines' exploited to ride in and capture their entire supply base unopposed. However, he had overextended himself, and burdened with their plunder, the Wolverines became vulnerable to sniping fire from Confederate artillery.

The enemy soon had Custer surrounded. With his men locally outnumbered and being rolled up by attacks, and the Confederate cannon pelting his command with shrapnel shells from far outside the effective range of his single battery of Luthor guns, Custer resigned himself to make a last stand, hiding the battle-flag of his unit within his coat to avoid its capture. But Sheridan heard the heavy fighting around Custer's position and rode to his rescue, driving away the Confederates. Custer proudly presented the battle-flag he'd kept safe as the two commanders met on the battlefield.

Despite the use of Luthor guns to hold the Confederate cavalry at bay, Custer's brigade had taken significant losses, though. Worse yet, Sheridan's scouts informed him that the infantry reinforcements Lee had dispatched to the Shenandoah Valley were marching through the area. They had taken up blocking positions in his path. Sheridan decided to cut his raid short and withdraw, having further battered the rebel horsemen and their supplies.

Sheridan would later maintain that the raid was a victory, as it inflicted roughly equal losses on the Confederate cavalry, who could ill afford further casualties. However, Sheridan failed to achieve his operational objectives. He had not reached Charlottesville and the railroad was intact. The Confederate infantry proceeded to reinforce the Shenandoah and inflict defeats on Union forces there, which Sheridan himself would be forced to reverse later in the year.

The Confederate Lifeline

Aside from the supplies coming out of the Shenandoah, which Grant had already addressed, the main logistical artery for both the Army of Northern Virginia and the city of Richmond itself was the railroad junction in the city of Petersburg, located several miles to the south of Richmond, near the James River. Benjamin Butler's Army of the James had already been pushing P. G. T. Beauregard's troops in the area. Butler was no military genius, but he benefited from the support of a powerful squadron of Union ironclads along the river, led by the USS Thunderer, and a disproportionately well-furnished artillery arm originating from the foundries of Metropolis.

Grant had previously drawn away much of the Army of the James' strength to reinforce his own Army of the Potomac for a direct attritional battle with Lee. Despite this, Butler had pushed ahead, trying to take the city with an offensive on June 9th. He attempted a complex multi-axis plan, exploiting the extremely limited manpower of Beauregard's defenders (they, too, had been drawn down to support the clash between Lee and Grant). Unfortunately, as was usually the case in those days, coordination and timing broke down between the various columns of the attack force. While Union artillery accompanying the infantry inflicted severe losses on the defending militia, the individual attacks sputtered out and were not renewed by Butler.

Grant had weakened the Army of the James to strengthen the Army of the Potomac, and had left that army without a dynamic commander. But he came to realize that Petersburg was a location so critical that he should perhaps have done the opposite- and now, he would. By sending his own troops to combine with Butler and threaten Petersburg, he would force Lee to likewise combine with Beauregard, entrapping two Confederate field armies- including their main army- in a condition of siege warfare, pinned in place until further notice. This would buy other Union armies time to ravage the rest of Confederate territory and force an effective end to the war.

Benefiting from the distractions created by the forces he'd sent west, Grant and Meade began their preparations as early as June 9th. Meade's infantry dug secondary lines of fortifications behind the main Union positions around Cold Harbor for the rear guard to hold while the army broke contact.

Grant withdrew his corps in the dark, one after another. Some proceeded by land, while others boarded steamers and sailed downriver, away from the battlefield into the Chesapeake Bay and then back up the James River by way of Hampton Roads. The army recombined near Butler's base of operations on the James. Here, Union engineers had constructed a massive 2,500-foot pontoon bridge, the longest of the war, and prepared many boats. This allowed a quick crossing; within a week, Grant had gotten his army south of the James and into position to threaten Petersburg.
This is good. Another 500 exp to Simon Jester.
but what about our resident shrink? He couldn't have spent three whole months only letting Helfern rant at him, could he?
Parker's actions outside of the "therapy" with Helfern are unknown to you.
@King crimson , do you have any comments on this?
You probably won't get blamed for it as it is specifically outside what the product was intended for and you could not have reasonably expected it to do that.

Let's say a company built tanks and washing machines and a maniac bought a washing machine that was customized to wash things faster and be painted with polka dots. The maniac then further modified the machine to use hydrochloric acid instead of water and then used it to commit a murder by shoving someone in there. The company would not be responsible for how the washing machine was used.

Alternatively in the same scenario with the custom polka dot washing machine being used to kill someone by having it dropped on someone's head would not leave the company responsible for the murder in any capacity in a court of law.

Basically so long as the product is being used in ways specifically outside of the designed purpose and the modifications do not make it easier to commit a crime then as a company you haven't violated any laws or done anything wrong according to a court of law.
 
Okay, so I think buying out Star Labs would be a good thing. Possible multiple heros which is great. Getting Blindspot would seem to require far more investment which we might not have the time to deal with. Regarding the Clown, the situation is ambivalent. On one hand we've not done anything like this before, but also we won't be blamed for anything. Might get a wee bit bad press though. I think we still should deny it as we have a good reason and we can just stay out of the mess that is Gotham for a little bit longer.
 
Speaking of Gotham I wonder when Brucie will visit if he still plans to after all giving this to not Joker might draw him closer
 
@King crimson Could you post a list of possible forms of ascencion? We have the AMAZO Proyect, could we turn ourselves into a personified concept? What about trancending the physical world to become Dr. Manhatan?
 
@King crimson
Nice, out of curiosity are we able to prevent the Big Bang? It started with a stray shot in a gang war so I'm thinking not, but at least investigate to see what occurred afterwards unless the city tries covering it up? Is it gonna draw alot of attention? They showed people mutating on TV, but never showed much government intervention. I don't recall them quarantining the city or calling the national guard or anything, most of the people were back on the street in a few days unless it was a large physical mutation.

I asked this earlier, don't know if you saw it, but what kind of security do our Lex-Phones have? When we upgrade to the point of using personal passwords, thumb prints, and facial recognition, can we use that to better hack targets, break into secure areas with retina/finger scanners, find secret identities and such? Might help with blackmail or investigations, also if we add a Siri-like option we may be able to get and splice voice recordings. Can we add an option for the phones to register a user's voice, and auto dial 911 at a command? May help the phone sell better in crime ridden cities. Can we text at this point? Alot of those options are common now but years back anyone who grabbed your phone could just see all the information/contacts you had on it , better to head off the problems that come up with it. Maybe an action where we make security options for our phones with Felicity/Carl and have Nygma try to break through or find flaws.

Will psionics be something to research or learn in this quest, like Psimon?
 
I'm on the side of just returning Joker his money and not giving him the bot. Even if LexCorp can't be blamed for what he does with it, I don't want the company's products being mixed in that guy's crimes in the slightest.

In another subject, what kind of hiring do you think we need to do next?

The investigation actions in Intrigue have been barely touched in several turns, and their DC are rising. If we want to do anything in that area, we should get the Private Investigator and invest in a spying net.
Now that we intent to further foray into magic, more occultist under Rebecca would lower DC and increase results.
And with how much LexCorp is growing, either Competent Assistants or Managers and Executives would probably prevent problems caused by Lex being stretched too thin.
I quite agree. I think our next focus should be a private investigator and spies, then 'hard scientist' specialists (we've got LOTS of biomedical heropower, but not much conventional chemistry/physics/engineering strength). Assistants/managers/executives are a good choice too. Occultists are a low priority for me right now; we've got two and a half as it is, and it's hard for us to leverage the occult into corporate power with the DOMA breathing down our necks.

For Intrigue...those satellites would come in handy.
I strongly agree, and the DC has probably dropped now that we have our own space launch complex ( @King crimson , our "space building" includes launch facilities for rockets and/or spaceplanes, right?)

I also want us to take "Worldwide spy network," and "spy drones" (hella cheap and easy for us). We have enough Intrigue heroes now that we should be able to get some of those options up and running pretty quickly.

You'd get the resources and the leaders of the company that stayed on would become hero units assuming you buy it out but keep it as a company separate from LexCorp. If you cannibalize the company and fold it into an existing one then you are on a point but system for which hero units you keep.
Mmhm. Could be interesting to buy out S.T.A.R. Labs then. Buying a bigger share would be a DC 58 Stewardship check; I don't know if we'd have to crit to get a 'buyout' level result, but we could try that. It'd probably be worth a turn of Lex's time to lead the collaboration, even if this turn, specifically, I want to sic him on the Red Tornado data.

You'll have to do a bit of set up for that. Rebecca couldn't pinpoint a location because the person in question slammed into the wards from multiple different angles and positions before leaving and rarely tried to get in from the same location twice in a row.
Hm. Pity, smart enemies are such a nuisance. Is it something we won't get a chance to try, then? Darn.

Nick Olson is asking for something bizarre and you've gotten no custom orders like this before.

No they are not. They can get close but they are inferior to Captain Clown
I imagine they wouldn't be smart enough to independently cut the barge towline, nor fast and aggressive enough to reliably grab Batman.

And yeah, if we've never made a custom order before, I say we say "no" to 'Olson' and his offer, politely returning his money.

Parker's actions outside of the "therapy" with Helfern are unknown to you.
Hmmm, given that Helfern is starting to tell him disturbing things, we may want to monitor him.

@King crimson , what would we have to do to get an option like

[] Set up monitoring surveillance of [person]?

Using the various tools at our disposal to keep tabs on a person's activities should be within our power, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it.

Okay, so I think buying out Star Labs would be a good thing. Possible multiple heros which is great. Getting Blindspot would seem to require far more investment which we might not have the time to deal with.
Hmm yeah. I'm worried, though. If someone's paying him to come after us (and we are probably the target) then they can very easily just keep paying him. We have to leave the safety of the tower some time, and an invisible assassin whose invisibility tech we don't have a specific counter to is... not good. That's how great-great-great-great-grandpa Lucius died, after all. :p

It might be worth putting in some time and effort to mousetrap the assassin. Or, for that matter, to make lifelike robot decoy Lex Luthors and occasionally trawl them out there just to specifically draw assassins' fire. Especially now that the League of Shadows is no longer specifically allied with us and would probably take out a contract on Lex's life if given a good reason.

We could totally make LexBots.
 
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@King crimson Could you post a list of possible forms of ascencion? We have the AMAZO Proyect, could we turn ourselves into a personified concept? What about trancending the physical world to become Dr. Manhatan?
I'm not going to list all the possible forms of Ascension because there is a lot and I want the quest to discover them. I will say that I've mentioned that you can become a god, an Endless, or a Lord of Order or Chaos which is close to becoming a personified concept but still leads to some extent of personality death and locks you into a set way of behaving. I won't say more than that.
@King crimson
Nice, out of curiosity are we able to prevent the Big Bang? It started with a stray shot in a gang war so I'm thinking not, but at least investigate to see what occurred afterwards unless the city tries covering it up? Is it gonna draw alot of attention? They showed people mutating on TV, but never showed much government intervention. I don't recall them quarantining the city or calling the national guard or anything, most of the people were back on the street in a few days unless it was a large physical mutation.

I asked this earlier, don't know if you saw it, but what kind of security do our Lex-Phones have? When we upgrade to the point of using personal passwords, thumb prints, and facial recognition, can we use that to better hack targets, break into secure areas with retina/finger scanners, find secret identities and such? Might help with blackmail or investigations, also if we add a Siri-like option we may be able to get and splice voice recordings. Can we add an option for the phones to register a user's voice, and auto dial 911 at a command? May help the phone sell better in crime ridden cities. Can we text at this point? Alot of those options are common now but years back anyone who grabbed your phone could just see all the information/contacts you had on it , better to head off the problems that come up with it. Maybe an action where we make security options for our phones with Felicity/Carl and have Nygma try to break through or find flaws.

Will psionics be something to research or learn in this quest, like Psimon?
Depends on what you mean by "preventing" it. Killing Alva before he makes the quantum gas would pretty solidly stop it from happening and that is still on the table even though I don't think that's what you were going for.

However if you mean to let things play out like canon exactly until the last possible moment then no you won't be able to prevent it.

You'll be able to investigate the big bang.

The phones are currently password protected. I don't see how retinal or thumb print scanners would help you hack anything (besides giving you a digital copy) and unless someone unlocks a phone in costume and you know they are in costume then it is useless for ferreting out secret identities especially compared to what you already have (call logging and position tracking).

Most of the phone improvements fall under the option [ ] Improve Phones where you get a subvote what to add. All the options toy listed to add are available under that banner.

Texting is available but primitive (If I remember correctly the original L-Phone was comparable to the I-phone 3 without apps).

Psimon is a terrible example because he was given psychic powers by Trigon rather than developing them himself. To answer your questions main goal though yes research into psionics can be done once you have awareness of the existence of psionics. I won't reveal exactly what you can get from it but you can certainly get good results from it.
( @King crimson , our "space building" includes launch facilities for rockets and/or spaceplanes, right?)
Yes it does
@King crimson , what would we have to do to get an option like

[] Set up monitoring surveillance of [person]?
A private investigator of some kind or camera drones or smaller cameras or studying magic for a monitoring spell all could give you a result you are looking for. I'll also be tossing in an option next turn to have a hero unit tail him for a bit (which is not foolproof and can be worked around and wastes a hero unit if they aren't perceptive enough) and once you repair your supercomputer you will be able to use it to track Parker's location and any calls he might make more efficiently (it would let you prevent him from calling say Lois Lane before he attempts to do so and would notify you of it rather than what you have now where you are limited to looking through his calls after he makes them).
 
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Occultists are a low priority for me right now; we've got two and a half as it is, and it's hard for us to leverage the occult into corporate power with the DOMA breathing down our necks.

I was hoping they'd help developing stronger wards and bettering the enchanting of the LexTower. Lowering the DC of the actions, if nothing else.

I'm not going to list all the possible forms of Ascension because there is a lot and I want the quest to discover them. I will say that I've mentioned that you can become a god, an Endless, or a Lord of Order or Chaos which is close to becoming a personified concept but still leads to some extent of personality death and locks you into a set way of behaving. I won't say more than that.

Whoa... I mean, it's way, way too early to thing about this, but whooaaa...

A private investigator of some kind or camera drones or smaller cameras or studying magic for a monitoring spell all could give you a result you are looking for. I'll also be tossing in an option next turn to have a hero unit tail him for a bit (which is not foolproof and can be worked around and wastes a hero unit if they aren't perceptive enough) and once you repair your supercomputer you will be able to use it to track Parker's location and any calls he might make more efficiently (it would let you prevent him from calling say Lois Lane before he attempts to do so and would notify you of it rather than what you have now where you are limited to looking through his calls after he makes them).

Sounds like another check in the pro column to hire an investigator and get spying hardware next turn.

It's quite irritating that right when the leaks were plugged we get another possible snitch.

@King crimson
I'm unfamiliar with the inner workings of being a game/quest master. While I'm thankful that you gave us the heads up about Parker not being trustworthy, isn't it too big of a warning about a danger/trap that we're missing? Or is it just a matter of style?
 
@King crimson
I'm unfamiliar with the inner workings of being a game/quest master. While I'm thankful that you gave us the heads up about Parker not being trustworthy, isn't it too big of a warning about a danger/trap that we're missing? Or is it just a matter of style?
I never said anything about him not being trustworthy I just said you don't know what he is doing. Others have concluded that he isn't trustworthy based on the evidence presented (Karl has said really disturbing things around him and you don't know what he is doing besides talking to Karl).

I was asked directly if I forgot to include Jarrett Parker in the other characters section of the results and I answered that the lack of information was intentional because you don't know what he is doing. I merely clarified rather than giving new information since I already presented it.
 
Maybe we should talk to Wayne enterprises to buy a Cryogenic chamber to put Ivo on ice. We can study the Red Tornado data on our own and use all the other tech we get our hands on to lower the DCs for A.M.A.Z.O.

Ivo can be the lab rat for the Mind Transfer Process and the prototype.

Once we have learnt enough magic and produced enough Nth Metal, we can make our own A.M.A.Z.O. out of it.
 
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