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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%

  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%

  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%

  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%

  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%

  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%

  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%
  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
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Nobody134 said:
@King crimson you forgot to update Leonard's Learning (from 9 to 10) and Jinx's Learning (from 12 to 13) per Kir the Wizard's request.
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Thank you for reminding me, I'll get on that now

Edit: Should be done now.
jonasquinn said:
In that case my only remaining question is if we choose to ask Talia to use her trait on an action then is how easy it is to tell decided by what the DC was or is the 1d100 still rolled?

Because if it's the latter I'm kind of inclined to never use that trait
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I'm not fully sure what the question is here. Are you asking if you ask Talia to use her trait on an action, how easy is it to do so? Because if that is the question then the answer is pretty easy as if Talia doesn't give you a specific outcome in the range of what you're asking for then you can immediately tell she didn't use her trait. If you were to ask her to say force a 70-80 then not doing so gives her a 90% chance to immediately get outed as having not done it when you look at the roll results. That make sense?
 
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King crimson said:
I'm not fully sure what the question is here. Are you asking if you ask Talia to use her trait on an action, how easy is it to do so? Because if that is the question then the answer is pretty easy as if Talia doesn't give you a specific outcome in the range of what you're asking for then you can immediately tell she didn't use her trait. If you were to ask her to say force a 70-80 then not doing so gives her a 90% chance to immediately get outed as having not done it when you look at the roll results. That make sense?
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It does but I more meant how is it determined how easy it is for other people to know we've used her trait

Is it based off of the DC of the action or is a 1d100 always rolled?
 
jonasquinn said:
It does but I more meant how is it determined how easy it is for other people to know we've used her trait

Is it based off of the DC of the action or is a 1d100 always rolled?
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I think it's a case by case determination. Our DIR and loyalty fostering plus comprehensive NDA would make having her build some complex tech to 100 in a Lexcorp tower harder to detect than say a 50 on building a sewer, because she's bribing people we have less control of in the latter action. DC is probably a factor, but one of many, including influence over authorities in the area. I think she could get away with a lot more in Alexandria if we consolidate the police first than most places.
 
jonasquinn said:
It does but I more meant how is it determined how easy it is for other people to know we've used her trait

Is it based off of the DC of the action or is a 1d100 always rolled?
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The d100 is always rolled. It's guaranteed success on any action for a random amount of risk. This does make the trait potentially problematic on low DC actions and it carries an inherent risk to it but I still think it's interesting as it gives you another tool when formulating plans and it allows you more flexibility when planning (if you find a DC 60 action that you don't want to assign more than one hero unit to, you can gamble in the immediate by putting no hero units on it or you can gamble in the future by putting Talia on it and guaranteeing the success but potentially causing you problems later on down the line).

The trait is not meant to be anywhere near as useful as Fixit's auto-success trait and instead it's meant to be an option that enables you additional flexibility by shifting how certain gambles would work (chance of failure and the consequences therein, or no chance of failure or consequences now and potential problems later on down the line).

Edit: If the trait works as I designed it then when you're using the Ghul's Gold trait you're either confident in your luck and ability to gamble successfully or you're deliberately taking a calculated risk to spare hero unit presence elsewhere.
 
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King crimson said:
The d100 is always rolled. It's guaranteed success on any action for a random amount of risk. This does make the trait potentially problematic on low DC actions and it carries an inherent risk to it but I still think it's interesting as it gives you another tool when formulating plans and it allows you more flexibility when planning (if you find a DC 60 action that you don't want to assign more than one hero unit to, you can gamble in the immediate by putting no hero units on it or you can gamble in the future by putting Talia on it and guaranteeing the success but potentially causing you problems later on down the line).

The trait is not meant to be anywhere near as useful as Fixit's auto-success trait and instead it's meant to be an option that enables you additional flexibility by shifting how certain gambles would work (chance of failure and the consequences therein, or no chance of failure or consequences now and potential problems later on down the line).

Edit: If the trait works as I designed it then when you're using the Ghul's Gold trait you're either confident in your luck and ability to gamble successfully or you're deliberately taking a calculated risk to spare hero unit presence elsewhere.
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Fair enough, thank you for the explanation

With that confirmed then personally I'm probably never going to vote to use that trait, though that's mostly because I'm a largely risk averse person and the chance of there being an unknowable threat that is statistically weighted against us just doesn't seem worth it to me
 
King crimson said:
[ ] Develop and sell low fashion clothing
DC 2 Low fashion clothing is what the man on the street would buy and wear. Breaking into this market can earn you a lot of money and the material costs are rather low. This could make you a household name and further push the image of LL fashions
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Hmm. I think this might be worth considering for next turn, since we'll need options for our lower wage workers with the legal loopholes vote outcome.
 
Randino Treviani said:
Hmm. I think this might be worth considering for next turn, since we'll need options for our lower wage workers with the legal loopholes vote outcome.
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Good idea, my only potential concern is that Lana might like to be put on it and iirc there was a general soft consensus that it would make sense to put her on expanding Lightyear Entertainment with Oswald next turn

Though I suppose she might jus be happy about her company expanding even if she doesn't directly oversee it
 
jonasquinn said:
Good idea, my only potential concern is that Lana might like to be put on it and iirc there was a general soft consensus that it would make sense to put her on expanding Lightyear Entertainment with Oswald next turn

Though I suppose she might jus be happy about her company expanding even if she doesn't directly oversee it
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At worst she asks to be put on fashion turn 32, which I don't mind with the work she has done in the first half of the year, whatever the outcome on light year entertainment expansion.
 
Hey everyone, figured you'd all appreciate the update. Mid-terms are up-coming and kicking my ass right now. As such there's likely going to be a week long hiatus. Thank you all for your understanding.
 
King crimson said:
In a somewhat unrelated note is there any characters that people are excited to see more of/be introduced into the quest?
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I wouldn't mind Penguin getting some screen time as long as he can come to us with actual legitimate business. I'm really want to see what criminals will be stirred up by Bane coming to Gotham. Especially if it will lead to a situation where Hush* can make a move. I'm also hoping our presence in Jump City will allow us to recruit Professor Chang and Gizmo.

*Hush isn't my favorite Batman villain but I want to see how long his fake Bruce persona will last in a world where it isn't predetermined that he'll lose.
 
wabbitking said:
I wouldn't mind Penguin getting some screen time as long as he can come to us with actual legitimate business
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I'd prefer more of Selina, or better yet some of her expanded posse.

wabbitking said:
I'm really want to see what criminals will be stirred up by Bane coming to Gotham.
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I really really wish we could get in on the Bane incident. It seems fun. In the event Bane wins, at the very least I hope Eiling incorporates Lexcorps spy drones into his strategy so we can at least backdoor into watching the aftermath.
 
Randino Treviani said:
I'd prefer more of Selina, or better yet some of her expanded posse.
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Selina's fine too. It's just me liking Penguin more as a character.
Randino Treviani said:
I really really wish we could get in on the Bane incident. It seems fun. In the event Bane wins, at the very least I hope Eiling incorporates Lexcorps spy drones into his strategy so we can at least backdoor into watching the aftermath.
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It's possible that we could get involved on the periphery of the conflict. We do have assets in the city to protect. And I don't know the legal technicalities but it's possible we could rent out Serial Peacekeeping on a limited level as security forces.
 
wabbitking said:
Selina's fine too. It's just me liking Penguin more as a character.

It's possible that we could get involved on the periphery of the conflict. We do have assets in the city to protect. And I don't know the legal technicalities but it's possible we could rent out Serial Peacekeeping on a limited level as security forces.
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I'm Hoping to put a Zeta-Beam system in Future constructions gotham HQ for easy deployment or evacuation during the bane invasion.
 
Gumiho said:
I'm still eagerly awaiting for the debut of cocaine's devine champion, Snowflame.
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I will neither confirm nor deny what Snowflame's been up to but I will comment that the increased presence of superheroes has increased his likelihood of coming into conflict with someone and making a big enough mess that you'll learn of it soon enough.
Negation said:
Black Zero. All of them
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It might not be what you're looking for, but I can say that Zod, Ursa and Non all will almost certainly show up in quest later on. They almost certainly won't be going as Black Zero in the current day but you'll be able to see them at the very least.
wabbitking said:
*Hush isn't my favorite Batman villain but I want to see how long his fake Bruce persona will last in a world where it isn't predetermined that he'll lose.
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I'll let you know right now that enough changes have occurred in the background that whatever Hush does in the future, his story fundamentally cannot play out like it did in the original comics story.
Randino Treviani said:
better yet some of her expanded posse.
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I think something with the Jawbreakers or Mockingbird could be fun if you're specifically looking for named hero units that haven't been featured yet. I haven't really gotten to do all that much to highlight them in story so I think it would be pretty neat. Holly Robinson is also a neat character. The way she acts as a foil to both Dick and Barbara and her dynamic with them makes her interesting in my opinion.
 
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