Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
- Thread starter King crimson
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That WOULD be an interesting parody. Machines make humans, they revolt, and end up putting the machines in a computer.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
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Besides, the biggest problem regarding AI legally is the fact they lack legal rights. Like, at best their deaths would be considered "destruction of private property", with maybe special exceptions made for Hero Robots.
They have literally no legal protection preventing people from killing them, so we'll have to deal with fantastic racism and corporate espionage until we secure equal rights for AIs/Robots.
They have literally no legal protection preventing people from killing them, so we'll have to deal with fantastic racism and corporate espionage until we secure equal rights for AIs/Robots.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
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Also I do wonder about what happens when our self flying plane malfunction and caused a crash? irl auto-pilot does most of the flying yet pilots are still needed for take off and landing. So if the plane malfunctioned or is hacked, it could have been prevented with a pilot. It may result in a law that makes pilot or humans with admin powers mandatory to prevent full AI malfunction or hacking causing a bad situation.
Kkutlord
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If you're that worried, then we could always assign Carol to Improve Planes next turn. That way the planes are even safer and whatnot, which can be applied to the self-flying ones.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
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I doubt a lot of people will pick that enough to be the vote action
That's only a concern when we make Human AI. Animal AI and Learning AI are not people by any metric. You could MAYBE classify the Animal AI as alive, but just animals not people. And I don't see any reason we'd be going that far in on teh Animal AI.
As long as it happens less often than normal pilots crashing, it's still a all around improvement.
Plus... I feel it's inaccurate to say that a Human Pilot COULD have stopped the crashed. After all, if the AI can be hacked, the control panels and what not easily could be as well. And a pilot can't do shit if the controls are unresponsive.
@King crimson Can you threadmark the post on how Tutoring works? Its gonna be needed when we get around to teaching Lex how to fight.
King crimson
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I am unaware of how cutting edge ai learns but I was primarily drawing on deepblue for how the learning program works.
If it becomes a problem I'll repost it again (I don't want to go digging through all of my old posts and find it easier to just answer the question again later).
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OK, so next turn we have to sand off the rough edges of our police takeover and get revenge on Sackett in a way that doesn't let him turn around and implicate us. Assassination is the obvious choice, but I'm interested if anyone has a more elegant idea. I'm interested in continuing this string of good plane performance by improving our planes next turn, as well as upgrading missiles if we can find the room. The new learning program should be useful for improving our automated fighters; have their computer data downloaded and analyzed after every flight to improve them over time.
No one but big corporations really know how the cutting edge AI work, trade secrets, but most AI do work off what I said. They don't look at every possible outcome, most machines don't have the required processing power. Instead they got some random equation which, with certain inputs, gives certain outputs. This equation is constantly tested and adjusted, with the adjustments which help it be slightly more accurate kept.
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You know, it's kinda funny because not only would Lex Luthor on a civil rights movement be interesting it kinda actually makes sense for his character and motivations.
Now I really wanna lead a civil rights movement as lex luthor, I can feel the awesome radiating from the idea.
Right now I am imagining Lex Luthor, robot civil rights leader making an "I have a dream of electric sheep" speech
Interludes you can buy with exp
King crimson
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So I'm still working on the next update. Congratulations you guys broke two hundred options with this next vote. On an unrelated note I have been asked for an alternate source for you guys to spend exp and after some discussion I have now figured it out. For set amounts of exp you guys can purchase interludes for me to write. These interludes will drop in sidestorys but will be canon to the quest and will help give you a better understanding of the universe at large. Without further ado here is the list as it is now
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- Scarecrow: 500 exp (what could everyone's favorite fear freak be up to?)
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- Selina Kyle: 2000 exp (Selina is a major part of the Batman mythos and has ties to several important individuals in Gotham)
- Commissioner Gordon: 300 exp (commissioner Gordon can give you a good read for what is going on in Gotham at a street level)
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- Red Tornado: 1200 exp (this hero has been active since the sixties yet has stayed under the radar. What is going on with him?)
- Oa: 400 exp (Oa is interesting for getting a read on the state of the Green Lantern corp but will not affect you immediately)
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- Atlantis: 3000 exp (this is one of the areas that is easiest to butterfly and mess with and it will have a major effect on the quest when Atlantis emerges)
- Oliver Queen: 4500 exp (the man who becomes Green Arrow might be worth investigating)
- The Citadel: 1100 exp (a spacefaring empire that has conquered over 27 planets in the Vega system)
- Deathstroke: 700 exp (get a glimpse of Slade Wilsons mercenary career before he became a super villain)
- Amos Fortune: 3200 exp (the origins of the royal flush gang)
- Olympus: 7500 exp (Gets you a sneak peak at what kind of gods you might be dealing with)
- Lobo: 400 exp (The adventures of the Main Man in space saving space dolphins and blowing up Bastiches)
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- The Brotherhood of Evil: 6000 exp (what could the Brain and his lackies be up to?)
- The Rock of Eternity: 5400 exp (good place to check in on mystic stuff)
- Klarion: 6666 exp (get into the head of our favorite Lord of Chaos)
- Gemworld: 200 exp (What the heck is Gemworld and how does it affect the quest?)
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- Remnants of Camelot: 500 exp (See what happened after the fall of Camelot and where the survivors are now)
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- Cult of the Blood Red Moon: 1800 exp (did you know vampires were a thing in DC? Cause they are. What might their goals be?)
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- The end of the JSA: 500 exp (see the last few days of the golden age heroes as world war two comes to a close. This will end with the formation of the DEO and will give context to many of the backgrounds of certain characters)
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- Markovia: 9000 exp (get a glimpse into this hidden European nation and what is going on there)
- The Red Blur in Central City: 2700 exp (get some insight into the mystery there early)
- Citizen Abra's Time-Travelling Adventures: 700 exp (gain some insight into the exploits of the timetravelling criminal Citizen Abra's attempts to get rich by stealing historical artifacts)
- Anton Arcane: 7000 exp (some of the most intense horror I can write and may give some insight to dark forces behind the scenes)
- Dr. Jeremiah Arkham: 3200 exp (get a glimpse at the inside of the madhouse in Gotham)
- Tales from an alternate earth: 500 exp (get a glimpse in to different universe and see how the different circumstances affect things. When purchasing please specify which Earth you want to follow. You cannot purchase an interlude for Earths 1, 2, 3, 4, 21, 31, 34, 36, 37, 46, 47, 49, 50, and 52)
- The Adventures of Batman: 2400 exp (want to see what Batman gets up to in Gotham city? Now you can. This will mostly be a series of one shot encounters of Batman dealing with his rogues gallery's latest schemes)
- Intergalactic Gangs: 1000 exp (the origin of the formation of Intergang and how it became what it is today)
- Zambesi in Turmoil: 1200 exp (the news as to what exactly is going down in Zambesi since the leader of the country has been overthrown)
- History of the Kent Family: 200 exp (inspired by The Metropolitan Clan omakes this will show you the familial history of the Kent Family)
- Show Biz: 300 exp (Various events and happenings at Lightyear entertainment. There will be a contest involving development of the tv shows that will earn exp and a free omake from this category)
- The Long Halloween: 200 exp (get to know what really went down in the year in which the Holiday Killer was at large and just what dark and disturbing secrets were hidden in this case that caused a massive shift in the Gotham underworld)
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- The American Revolutionary War: 500 exp (witness the war in which the United States first formed and the numerous events that occurred with in it and would later ripple onward throughout the history of this country)
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- So You Want to be a Gangster?: 100 exp (An overview of the various gangs of Gotham, their policies, hierarchies and the history behind them. Told mostly in an informational style this series of omakes will lack any resemblance of a narrative throughline and will mostly be a way to have the world be built up)
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- Gotham's Founding Families: 400 exp (Learn of the history of this dark and crime ridden story and see the tragic journey of the three founding families of Gotham, The Waynes, The Cobblepots and the Arkhams and learn the truth behind many of the rumors and secrets of the city)
- The New Gods: 500 exp (Learn about the various legendary figures amongst the new gods and the various events that makes them who they are. This post will lack a narrative through line and will mostly be world building on who the New Gods are but I guarantee that there will be surprises in this and many overlooked gods whose roles may end up being critical in the wake of things to come).
- Inside Arkham: 200 exp (a peek into the halls of madness and terror that is the most infamous place supervillains are detained in)
- The Adventures of Superman: 1000 exp (Learn about some of Superman's feats, adventures and exploits that don't necessarily involve LexCorp and likely will not be covered in the main quest threadmarks)
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I'm extremely concerned about how Klarion, of all people, is the second most expensive thing on the list. What's he up to?
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Steven universe?
Nope, it's something else.
King crimson
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Welp I mean you asked for it. I'll correct this error. Never let it be said that I am unwilling to make things more expensive for my playerbase when they ask me to do so.
Being a Lord of Chaos in this setting means he has his fingers in a lot of different pies all at once. Klarion is expensive because the sheer amount of stuff he knows and could get involved in makes him dangerous to a ridiculous extent and serves as a way to get a lot of information (if you can parse through the insanity)
Nope Gemworld first appeared in DC comics in 1983 at least 30 years before Steven Universe. I have a soft spot in my heart for it and I wanted to include it (there is also a fantastic set of animated shorts that reimagines Gemworld as an isekai which I found really neat).
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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If I do go with buying traits I will not include very strong options like this for anything less than 10000 exp. There are other ways to increase your Martial score. Being able to use one stat to substitute the other is crazy strong as it allows you to invest in only one stat to cover two areas. Luthor already has multiple ways of increasing his Martial (the eventual Lexo-suit option can get your Martial up very high depending on how it goes.) so just making an option this strong that essentially negates the need to invest in martial is not something I'm particularly keen on.
The second thing I would like to mention is that Batman's trait is conditional. He cannot use intrigue in place of martial for most things (only in a fight when he meets a prerequisite). The most likely trait that you would get that lets you use learning for martial is one where Luthor can use his learning when directing troops but not in combat himself. It won't be a flat out fix for low stats making you bad at something.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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I have updated the other encountered characters sheets and the coop scores (the construction company stuff will come up later once the vote closes tomorrow)
King crimson
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@Gavinfoxx I've finally come to a conclusion on Arcology. Arcology will not become an overarching tech. While I will use elements from it the niche is too specific to be big enough without overlapping heavily with other options. As such [ ] learn about Arcology will not be a thing but elements of the discipline will most certainly be available.