Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
By the way @King crimson does Dr Wakati exist here? Because his inventions would be pretty damn revolutionary

Hell I'd even just like to grab that version of Clock King at some point
Sorry for the late response. Dr. Wakati does exist in quest.

Clock King/Temple Fugate also exists though he is much more of a composite character (for example he has the terminal illness elements of other Clock Kings).
 
Hi sorry for being so slow but I'm genuinely struggling with wrapping everything up in a satisfying way. The update is steadily being worked on though.
 
Also I have a question, is there something we can make to make us immortal
As a general rule, almost anything anyone ever succeeded in doing in the DCU, @King crimson is willing to let us do if we figure out how to make it in-character plausible given the resources and options at our disposal.

Given that we're playing Lex Luthor, our resources are almost unlimited for purposes of "can you mad-science up _______." We even had a guy on payroll, Dr. Ivo, who was trying to make an immortal and absurdly powerful robot body, and while the DC of his actions eventually became so high that the project fell apart, we didn't run out of money, and in hindsight we could probably have accomplished (or could still accomplish) the project even with him dead.

So if we want to become AMAZO or have an AMAZO body, that's an option. Less ambitious forms of immortality would probably be easier to achieve.

The main limit on our options is that Lex has to know in-character that a thing can even be done at all. For instance, right now we have no option for "hide kryptonite in Clark Kent's desk just to fuck with him" because in-character, Lex doesn't know that Superman is secretly Clark Kent, and Lex would have no reason to do that to a random reporter at the Daily Planet that he's only vaguely aware exists.

That's awesome! That can make cybersecurity a lot harder to break in even more.
Be careful; this is a comic-book setting. Having intelligent AI could make some forms of cyber-attack harder but others easier, and we would have to make sure our AI stayed loyal.
 
As a general rule, almost anything anyone ever succeeded in doing in the DCU, @King crimson is willing to let us do if we figure out how to make it in-character plausible given the resources and options at our disposal.

Given that we're playing Lex Luthor, our resources are almost unlimited for purposes of "can you mad-science up _______." We even had a guy on payroll, Dr. Ivo, who was trying to make an immortal and absurdly powerful robot body, and while the DC of his actions eventually became so high that the project fell apart, we didn't run out of money, and in hindsight we could probably have accomplished (or could still accomplish) the project even with him dead.

So if we want to become AMAZO or have an AMAZO body, that's an option. Less ambitious forms of immortality would probably be easier to achieve.

The main limit on our options is that Lex has to know in-character that a thing can even be done at all. For instance, right now we have no option for "hide kryptonite in Clark Kent's desk just to fuck with him" because in-character, Lex doesn't know that Superman is secretly Clark Kent, and Lex would have no reason to do that to a random reporter at the Daily Planet that he's only vaguely aware exists.

Be careful; this is a comic-book setting. Having intelligent AI could make some forms of cyber-attack harder but others easier, and we would have to make sure our AI stayed loyal.
That's true, but can we make a copy of our consciousness and put in the computer, or even better put in AMAZO body,
 
Be careful; this is a comic-book setting. Having intelligent AI could make some forms of cyber-attack harder but others easier, and we would have to make sure our AI stayed loyal.
Which is why we should make sure to treat any sentient robots we create like regular people, affably evil works for a reason

On the subject of robots I've been thinking about what we might be able to get from studying Brainiac's ship and I think our best bet would be to grab FTL from it if it's an option, it's the most expensive option for improving our spaceships which would free up a lot of points next time we improve them

Which we should do in a few turns, alongside improving out Spacesuits, though preferably after we've improved our pace building
That's true, but can we make a copy of our consciousness and put in the computer, or even better put in AMAZO body,
I mean, Ivo has
 
Which is why we should make sure to treat any sentient robots we create like regular people, affably evil works for a reason

On the subject of robots I've been thinking about what we might be able to get from studying Brainiac's ship and I think our best bet would be to grab FTL from it if it's an option, it's the most expensive option for improving our spaceships which would free up a lot of points next time we improve them

Which we should do in a few turns, alongside improving out Spacesuits, though preferably after we've improved our pace building

I mean, Ivo has
I mean you don't have to be lvo, instead it can be our consciousness we just need put a copier in there
 
Also another hero, another question can a I can make other AI?
Not quite sure by what "another hero" means but I can attempt to parse what you wrote and respond as best as possible. AI can eventually make other AI but I highly recommend you get very advanced AI before attempting to have AI mass produce itself (Brainiac, an old AI that basically ran a planet, is still liable to mess up when making his own AI to the point where most of the time he prefers to just control everything at once rather than create subsystems).
That's true, but can we make a copy of our consciousness and put in the computer, or even better put in AMAZO body,
Yes that is something that is possible but it's something you want to be insanely careful about since if it goes wrong it's a disaster. Metallo went completely insane because he couldn't handle the conversion. If you're copying your own brain you need to make sure it remains stable or you'll have an insane AI copy of yourself.
Ivo left scans of his brain for someone else to convert to AI.
 
Not quite sure by what "another hero" means but I can attempt to parse what you wrote and respond as best as possible. AI can eventually make other AI but I highly recommend you get very advanced AI before attempting to have AI mass produce itself (Brainiac, an old AI that basically ran a planet, is still liable to mess up when making his own AI to the point where most of the time he prefers to just control everything at once rather than create subsystems).
I mean like research, like do innovate new ideas.
 
I mean like research, like do innovate new ideas.
So if I understand it right your question was "can sufficiently advanced AI act like a hero and take certain actions?".

The answer to that question is yes (Brainiac, Chemo, Red Tornado and more are AI that can act as hero units and take individual actions. Ergo any AI you develop to a sufficient point would also count).
 
So if I understand it right your question was "can sufficiently advanced AI act like a hero and take certain actions?".

The answer to that question is yes (Brainiac, Chemo, Red Tornado and more are AI that can act as hero units and take individual actions. Ergo any AI you develop to a sufficient point would also count).
Yes. I mean sorry for confusion, and I be more clear next time.
 
So if I understand it right your question was "can sufficiently advanced AI act like a hero and take certain actions?".

The answer to that question is yes (Brainiac, Chemo, Red Tornado and more are AI that can act as hero units and take individual actions. Ergo any AI you develop to a sufficient point would also count).
Another question can AI do Magic?
 
Another question can AI do Magic?
Yes, AI can potentially do magic, they just generally need to be insanely advanced in order to do it and you can't effectively program robots to learn magic that you yourself do not know (especially since there's potentially little to no difference beyond enchanting robots to be able to use magic in a set way).

Also on an unrelated note it is generally good etiquette not to double post. I do double post myself occasionally (though as QM I have additional leeway on that front) but if you want to ask me another question and no one else has responded, you're generally better off editing you comment and sticking in an @King crimson beforehand to get my attention.
 
Yes, AI can potentially do magic, they just generally need to be insanely advanced in order to do it and you can't effectively program robots to learn magic that you yourself do not know (especially since there's potentially little to no difference beyond enchanting robots to be able to use magic in a set way).

Also on an unrelated note it is generally good etiquette not to double post. I do double post myself occasionally (though as QM I have additional leeway on that front) but if you want to ask me another question and no one else has responded, you're generally better off editing you comment and sticking in an @King crimson beforehand to get my attention.
Sorry I'm new here,@King crimson can we bring back the dinosaurs? So we can make Jurassic Park but better.
 
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