Contacting those two is going to require using the teleporter on a LexCorp employee - making the association of LexCorp and teleporter harder to deny later on, if we choose to do that. Also... do we expect that this will provide much in the way of assistance? I'm quite certain that DC has its own problems right now. It might not be getting quite as much attention from Brainiac as Metropolis is, but I'm guessing it also doesn't have as many supers or as much raw fortification to support it.I think we should contact the pentagon and Doma. While it says send a ahero unit and we do have some we do not use , why not just send a Lex Corp employee with a letter?
See my goal is to save the world. While I would like deniability later on, saving the world should come first. Because Lex Luthor can not rule it if it is destroyed. Also the brain can blackmail us if we do not disclose it. I think it would just be better to just admit we worked with the brotherhood of evil to save the day. Any bad PR can be waved with saving the world from a alien invasion.Contacting those two is going to require using the teleporter on a LexCorp employee - making the association of LexCorp and teleporter harder to deny later on, if we choose to do that. Also... do we expect that this will provide much in the way of assistance? I'm quite certain that DC has its own problems right now. It might not be getting quite as much attention from Brainiac as Metropolis is, but I'm guessing it also doesn't have as many supers or as much raw fortification to support it.
I'd like to again suggest teleporting her to washington to share information and out supermans part in this to the government. They need a fall guy for why they weren't more prepared for this and Superman drawing his attention years or decades ahead of schedule is gold. The more time they have to prepare to spin the story their way the better, and lois can't even blame lexcorp.-[x] [LL] Welcome Lois to LexCorp tower and speak with her in person to receive whatever information she has to give. Don't allow her into any sensitive areas. Once she's said her piece, allow her to remain in a limited, safe area, as guest of LexCorp, until this all blows over, or be escorted to wherever in the city she might wish to be escorted to. Leave Helena with her in support of this until she's decided to leave and then gotten where she's going.
The best combo for pamela is lex and mercy. Between there coop scores and the equalizer suits your looking at a bonus to rolls over 100 before you add in luther and mercy's traits. Otherwise Katherine is your best bet.I'll note that if one of the structures is near a place with a lot of vegetation, then it might also make sense to send Pamela to assault that one (possibly supported by a few folks in equalizer suits) and only bomb three of them. I don't think that Pamela and Caitlyn combo all that well for things like this, though.
Thats a lot of superpower that brainiac is going to put a lot of pressure on. Better to deploy them elsewhere and let them draw off brainiac forces threatening one of the other devices and have lex, Mercy, Katherine, and Pamela attack the most Ideal device with an half lexcorps remaining troops to clear a path for Roxanna to hit it with a kryptonite bomb the old fashion way.-[x] [Distribute] Send Caitlyn, Siobhan, and Mari on an assault against the most easily accessible structure. Deploy blizzard blanket drones to try to interfere with the enemy's ability to perceive and reinforce, but keep them away from that one target. Otherwise, largely leave forces where they are, unless their particular objective has been cleared.
The plan is fine as is. I'm not giving a full evaluation since I don't believe you were asking me to do so just yet.Well... we at least need a plan to start thinking with. How about this one?
[x] Plan one to throw away
-[x] [LL] Welcome Lois to LexCorp tower and speak with her in person to receive whatever information she has to give. Don't allow her into any sensitive areas. Once she's said her piece, allow her to remain in a limited, safe area, as guest of LexCorp, until this all blows over, or be escorted to wherever in the city she might wish to be escorted to. Leave Helena with her in support of this until she's decided to leave and then gotten where she's going.
-[x] [B&B] If the Brain believes that some set of his people would serve well in a direct assault in the middle of the ship, then allow and support this. He knows his people better than you do, and if it's his people, you don't need to care about the chances that it will be a suicide mission. Provide appropriate assistance with targeting. Then, once the superhero assault is well underway, use the Brain's teleporter to teleport kryptonite bombs to try to take out the remaining 4 structures, one at a time, as the teleporter refreshes.
-[x] [Distribute] Send Caitlyn, Siobhan, and Mari on an assault against the most easily accessible structure. Deploy blizzard blanket drones to try to interfere with the enemy's ability to perceive and reinforce, but keep them away from that one target. Otherwise, largely leave forces where they are, unless their particular objective has been cleared.
I'll note that if one of the structures is near a place with a lot of vegetation, then it might also make sense to send Pamela to assault that one (possibly supported by a few folks in equalizer suits) and only bomb three of them. I don't think that Pamela and Caitlyn combo all that well for things like this, though.
I'd like to again suggest teleporting her to washington to share information and out supermans part in this to the government. They need a fall guy for why they weren't more prepared for this and Superman drawing his attention years or decades ahead of schedule is gold. The more time they have to prepare to spin the story their way the better, and lois can't even blame lexcorp.
We should also send Oswald to convince Eli to get us some worthwhile reinforcements. We don't need much but a heavy hitter in the right place could go a long way to spreading out Brainiacs forces while leaving ours free to focus on a single objective.
We have WoQM that coop scores don't apply in major conflicts like this one.The best combo for pamela is lex and mercy. Between there coop scores and the equalizer suits your looking at a bonus to rolls over 100 before you add in luther and mercy's traits. Otherwise Katherine is your best bet.
Thats a lot of superpower that brainiac is going to put a lot of pressure on. Better to deploy them elsewhere and let them draw off brainiac forces threatening one of the other devices and have lex, Mercy, Katherine, and Pamela attack the most Ideal device with an half lexcorps remaining troops to clear a path for Roxanna to hit it with a kryptonite bomb the old fashion way.
We have bigger concerns right now than protecting some infrastructure.Not having Pamela grow the trees so their branches and leaves can protect the park from debrie?
The answer is yes and no. Pamela's pheromones is really three types of pheromones she can use (and she can blend them together for different effects). She can do the Woodrue style pheromones, Queen Bee style pheromones and a third type I'm going to call drone pheromones.@King crimson - Do Pamela's pheremone effects work on women? (Some versions don't) How do they work?
We don't need her to do the spin just share everything she revealed about superman having met the alien and destroyed it's ship to the Government. He already has his detractors there and when the puplic asks why this wasn't prevented, as they always do, being able to point at superman and say he provoked it, is going to appeal to them quite a bit. Any reporter who shows up in the aftermath will find plenty of witnesses to brainiac addressing superman directly. From their the blame falls neatly on Kal el.So I can see the argument here... but I'm not sure I trust it. Lois is a pro-Superman diplo hero. Yes, it would be great to get some spin in early about this, but sending Lois to be the one to do it sounds dangerous to me... especially since it could very easily lead to her seeing whichever members of Brotherhood of Evil are running the teleporter.
Now, if we could actually sell her on the idea that Superman is to blame for all fo this, that coudl eb worth quite a lot. I'd be a bit tempted to use pheremones, but they're really far too blunt-weapon, and too obvious after the fact. I know that Pamela's version is at least a bit more subtle. @King crimson - Do Pamela's pheremone effects work on women? (Some versions don't) How do they work?
Thing is... she's already reported on that. Like, she published that story. She apparently has additional insight supporting the idea that this alien is that alien, but it's not like the overall story isn't out there, and we certainly have plenty of evidence that the attacker was particularly interested in Superman and kept calling him Kal-El.We don't need her to do the spin just share everything she revealed about superman having met the alien and destroyed it's ship to the Government. He already has his detractors there and when the puplic asks why this wasn't prevented, as they always do, being able to point at superman and say he provoked it, is going to appeal to them quite a bit. Any reporter who shows up in the aftermath will find plenty of witnesses to brainiac addressing superman directly. From their the blame falls neatly on Kal el.
Pamela's pheromones worked on her female staff member so the answer is yes. We don't need to use them honestly. Convincing lois naturally that the truth of whats happening is to important not to tell the government and get metropolis help is an easy sell, especially with brainiac directly calling Kal el out. The only use for the pheromones is to trick lois into thinking "that it doesn't matter how lexcorp got her to the capitol, she has more important things to think about".
Nope Lois does not know that Woodrue used pheromones on her. She's entirely unaware of that fact. Even if you dosed her with a new batch of pheromones and she learned that she'd been mind controlled she likely wouldn't catch what Woodrue did.@King crimson , does Lois Lane know that Woodrue used pheromones on her? Because that happened a long time ago, and it's been affecting her ever since. If she knows what happened to her then, then she knows the symptoms of being dosed with mind control chemicals, which would make it more of an issue if we try to use the same formula on her now.
...and one that probably won't conflict! Like, sure, after we've done our pheremone studies, their minds are going to be a bit pureed, but that doesn't really matter as far as using them as human guinea pigs for whatever mutation-inducing thing we have up next on the docket.Well, one more use for whatever criminals Queen Bee provides for us then..
When she's no longer head of the EPA. I continue to assert that that would be better sooner rather than later.Speaking of Woodrue, when are we going to let Pamela dissect his corpse and set it on fire?
[facepalm]Nope Lois does not know that Woodrue used pheromones on her. She's entirely unaware of that fact. Even if you dosed her with a new batch of pheromones and she learned that she'd been mind controlled she likely wouldn't catch what Woodrue did.
That being said Woodrue had a whole hell of a lot more practice in getting his commands and suggestions into people's heads and getting people to accept them as perfectly reasonable (Pamela is another one of Woodrue's victims and even though she knew he messed with her head she still doesn't fully act against or deny them). Woodrue basically figured out how to refine using the stuff and practiced the effects different kinds of suggestions could have on an individual in order to optimize his results. What you'd be doing would likely be a good deal cruder than Woodrue's attempts because you didn't practice on a good number of innocent unsuspecting people first in order to learn how to exploit it.
For that matter, we can probably hand them back to Queen Bee and they'll be only marginally less useful to her than before....and one that probably won't conflict! Like, sure, after we've done our pheremone studies, their minds are going to be a bit pureed, but that doesn't really matter as far as using them as human guinea pigs for whatever mutation-inducing thing we have up next on the docket.
Ah! Number 3 is just about perfect... I think. Would something along the lines of "You've concluded that Superman is at fault for Brainiac's invasion, and you blame him for all of the suffering and death it is causing, and the possibility that the world might be destroyed entirely" work on that one? Possibly follow it up by figuring out a more about what she sees as his flaws and making her care about them a bit more?So to further clarify the matter on what Pamela's pheromones could do I'm going to list some ways she can use them.
No. The suggestion you offered is way too strong in its wording, and refers to changing someone's mind on a specific instance as opposed to a long term compulsion which is inherently harder and requires more force to immediately alter the opinion. This is just straight up not viable for option 3 as it needs to be subtle enough that the person getting affect by it can't notice that the thoughts are significantly different their own. Trying to sledgehammer all the work all at once will inherently make it a lot more likely to fail and be thought off since Lois can more easily reject it as an abnormal thought. If you don't go for subtle suggestions you won't get subtle results. Trying to get someone to blame an individual they generally like and think does their best as being responsible for an alien invasion, all death and destruction in the invasion and may in the world is so unsubtle it's not even funny. You can't use a scalpel to try and cut like a cleaver anywhere near effectively. A scalpel is way more subtle but you've gut to cut in slowly and subtly as opposed to hacking away to your preferred end state as fast as possible.Ah! Number 3 is just about perfect... I think. Would something along the lines of "You've concluded that Superman is at fault for Brainiac's invasion, and you blame him for all of the suffering and death it is causing, and the possibility that the world might be destroyed entirely" work on that one? Possibly follow it up by figuring out a more about what she sees as his flaws and making her care about them a bit more?