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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
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Torgamous
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Coop scores don't affect battles, unless the system has changed since the Intergang attack.
While searching for this citation, I also came across this:
And I'm curious if there's an update on the Ice Bat situation.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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So I might be spoiling things slightly but there are currently on going negotiations between Wayne and the Ice Bats. They haven't rolled well enough to seal the deal but the rolls have gone well enough to get things started and unless there's an awful roll and things fall through the Ice Bats will be coming to Gotham in 3-4 turns or so.
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I'm sorry but that mental image is too hilarious to pass up.
Braniac, this advanced alien super computer with a 12th level intellect, just coming out of the sky and smashing through a window is amazing.
Next time we rebuild metropolis we do what the court of owls did. Build a bunch of secret tunnels to use and build the city in such a way we cans defend it against invasion.
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I guess the takeaway is that if Brainiac had actually destroyed a billion worlds, or if he behaved in a way that led others to expect him to do so in the near future, he'd probably start drawing aggro from more powerful space factions. Because while a billion worlds may seem like a relative flyspeck compared to literally the entire universe, it's a big enough amount of damage that you can't just go ignoring things that destroy a billion worlds within the span of a few decades. Or rather, if you do, then there will fairly soon come a time when you run out of universe. Since at that rate, even a large galaxy will be entirely depopulated within a few millennia, and the threat in question is likely to further upscale from there.
And moreover, such threats will arise more than once, in more than one place in the universe. So the next thing you know, you've got multiple such threats, each eating a galaxy every millennium or so, and in the long run you really do run out of universe if you're in the habit of ignoring shit like that.
That sounds like a pretty big "unless."
I'd be pleasantly surprised to learn that Brainiac can't smash through our windows, or for that matter, our walls, if he puts his mind to it.
If we've managed to achieve that level of ridiculosity, I'm impressed.
I mean, it makes more sense than him walking in through the ground-level front doors like a chump and taking the elevator like a peasant, doesn't it?
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It's probably a significant enough investment of firepower and time that he'll at least attempt more natural entry ways for a time, if only to avoid damaging any data stores potentially on the other side of such a fortified structure.
Your forgetting intellectual pride. Sure he shouldn't be inclined to run thru circles to reach what he's after, but he also shouldn't be inclined to tip Kal el off to his part in Jor el's death or kryptons destruction. If he has to blast in like any primitive then he's acknowledging that he can't get past our defenses otherwise. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Personally I'll be really amused if he does try to bust thru cranium first and the unit in question breaks itself against our defenses.I mean, it makes more sense than him walking in through the ground-level front doors like a chump and taking the elevator like a peasant, doesn't it?
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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The Court of Owls took advantage of a preexisting natural cave system and used that to build a bunch of secret tunnels. They had a lot of the work already done for them.
Alright I switched the wording from billions to millions. I personally don't see much of a big deal in Brainiac having destroyed a few billion (two or three billion) worlds but I do want to emphasize that he's not some kind of universe ending threat (he has the capacity to become one) and that he avoids getting squashed by staying just off of people's radar enough that they don't deal with him immediately. This is a relatively minor change that can solve that issue and I'm not interested in dying on the hill of how many planets Brainiac has destroyed so long as it's still a lot. Hopefully this alteration isn't too much of an issue.
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While I'd be very pleased if our walls are strong enough to actually stop Brainiac, I'd be disappointed in Brainiac if he didn't stop to scan a wall before trying to Hulk Smash his way through it.
@King crimson would it be possible for us to get the stats of our exosuits so that we know whether or not it's a good idea to equip our hero units with them?
KidFromPallet
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You know, it occurs to me that there's something else we can do with Smoak/Nygma during this: try to hack Brainiac's drones. I know, I know, sounds absurd. But think about it. The things are going around everywhere, interfacing with everything they can to get All The Data, right? So all we need is some kind of bait to lure one in, like maybe a computer or server or whatever that looks like it's connected to something important but is in fact isolated. From there, we hit it with a hacking attempt powered by a Hero Stack of, like, Lex+Cassandra+Felicity+Nygma or something. I dunno, I have no clue what lineup would be best.
But anyway, the goal would be to disable as many drones as possible before Brainiac noticed and stopped us. A stretch goal might be seeing if we can yoink any of the data they've been stealing, because being able to conduct corporate espionage against Wayne using an alien invasion would be utterly delicious.
Now, do I acknowledge that this idea is fairly unlikely to work? Yes. Would consequences for failure on this be pretty bad? Yeah, probably. But would it be cool as heck if we actually managed to succeed? You betcha.
Not going to make a vote for this or anything, because I'm not that confident in this idea's success, but I figured I'd put the idea out there.
And, on a (slightly) more ridiculous note:
So what you're saying is, we need to swing an Intrigue action Wayne's way to try and make things fall through? /joke
But anyway, the goal would be to disable as many drones as possible before Brainiac noticed and stopped us. A stretch goal might be seeing if we can yoink any of the data they've been stealing, because being able to conduct corporate espionage against Wayne using an alien invasion would be utterly delicious.
Now, do I acknowledge that this idea is fairly unlikely to work? Yes. Would consequences for failure on this be pretty bad? Yeah, probably. But would it be cool as heck if we actually managed to succeed? You betcha.
Not going to make a vote for this or anything, because I'm not that confident in this idea's success, but I figured I'd put the idea out there.
And, on a (slightly) more ridiculous note:
So what you're saying is, we need to swing an Intrigue action Wayne's way to try and make things fall through? /joke
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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Yes, it'll just take me a while to get everything up since I need to go double check things especially considering the Ravager suit.
Sirrocco
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I'd personally be happier with thousands, but millions is... significantly better than billions. It suggests that he is a geometric threat, but one that's been moving slowly and cautiously enough that the various Powers might not have realized it yet (and therefore not yet set out for the final war of extermination that ends with Brainiac being utterly wiped out).
However... this world does have a Green Lantern on it, currently. Brainiac might be about to fail a pretty significant "flying under the radar" check, depending on how much info we get out of him.
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I'd rather build public emergency shelters in which we fill with advertisements for LexCorp products.
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Such as, I dunno what you'd advertise to people cowering in a bunker... Personal energy weapons?
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So people can associate LexCorp kitchen appliances with the terror and uncertainty of an alien invasion? No. Fill them with Wayne ads.
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Housing closer to shelter. Personal emergency evac transmitter. Lexcorp bulletproof/explosive proof suits. Health insurance, life insurance, housing insurance. Our construction company for the development of a personal shelter or panic room, for when danger is right outside your door. Anti-Anxiety medication. The latest Lexiphone and it's recent app addition that lets you track the vitals of your loved ones, provided they have the same model, app, and phone plan.
Can we all acknowledge what a wasteful eater Brainiac is? In Worm the Entitys eat like a few thousend worlds and got so much more rediculos stuff out of it, like Path to Victory and Queen Administrator and 20 Endbringers, while all Brainiac has to Show for it are a few "high-tech" drones and decent hacking skills on a interplanatary-level, this just Shows that if you want somthing to be done right, you shouldnt rush it like he did
I would also go with this line up, but instead of hacking brainiac, just defending our Systems, because that will probably be easier is enough for now, because if its a bare succes our data is safe for now and by anything better, we might even get our comunication back and with the coms back that oppens all sort of doors, like the Germans and their "L.E.D.E.R.H.O.S.E.N" Programm (this Was a joke, but im German so if you want some native names for the still unnamed Programm, just ask) or the Japanese with their Samurai bots, they will then all be dependent on LexCorp for coordinating with their allies
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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Lets not make unfair comparisons. Entities in Worm are multi-dimensional creatures of whom individual shards are approximately the size of planets. Brainiac's biggest ships aren't as big as our moon and he doesn't exist in multiple dimensions at once. Comparing scale between the two is kind of dumb because you're comparing something with vastly more computing power (the massively bigger entities who can exist in multiple realities at once) to something with vastly less computing power (Brainiac whose collective forces probably don't fill up Jupiter) and realizing that the thing with vastly more computing power is better at extracting and making use of data.
Whether or not Brainiac is a wasteful eater or not is a different matter but I'd say he's actually less wasteful than the entities from Worm as he'll take anthropological, historical, societal, geographical and political (amongst many more things) information while the Entities tend to ignore everything that doesn't have to do with powers. Brainiac's problem is more that he keeps getting repeated data and junk data that he collects from every planet he takes from.
Edit: For an example of what I'm talking about I've joked about Brainiac having the universe's most extensive collection of pornography because that's part of the information he takes from societies. He now has downloaded the entirety of all memes on the internet in quest in his files. He has Kryptonian history books in his files as well. All of these things are the kind of information that Entities completely ignore. It's not really useful information most of the time but Brainiac takes it and keeps it while the Entities ignore it and destroy it without thinking twice.
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Hm.
First time I've ever heard anyone tell someone to give Brainiac a break, he's not nearly smart enough to have this shit figured out, but... s'true.
First time I've ever heard anyone tell someone to give Brainiac a break, he's not nearly smart enough to have this shit figured out, but... s'true.
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And this just isn't true. You don't get to eat a gazillion copies of something and say it only counts as one. You have to take serving size into account.
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You are fundamentally right, but the main counter argument besides how strong a 12 level intellect is, is that brainiac just doesnt put effort into his collection and is just using the most bruteforce method possible, while the entities with their shards harvest the essence of a race and therfor get more data out of thousends of the planets Brainiac raided
The point im trying to make is that he is a messy eater and wastes a lot of data because he doesnt see that this Problem needs a sutler aproched, because he is such a pridful beeing.
Thats why i used the entitiesas a exaple, because they do the same thing as he is, but get a lot more data (Honestly the shard aproch would have worked perfectly in DC), but yes i agree that entities such as Zion and eden have it easier to make this work
They ate everything in a few thousend while brainiac already ate
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Sirrocco
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They don't, though? They aren't even grabbing all that much in the way of information in the first place. They're tossing people mutable weapons, making them at least somewhat crazy, throwing them into a poison jar, and seeing what they can come up with. If there's some piece of info that doesn't get weaponized by one of the comparatively very few people that get shards, then they don't take it (and don't care about it). That's not anything like "the essence of a race".
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Gumiho
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[X] [Deploy] Write-in: Send half of your units to protect Metropolis while others remain at LexCorp.
-[X]Tell police and SCU to prioritize defending civilians and to help evacuate them toward designated safe zones – Metropolis subway, existing bunkers, heavily protected hospital area and so on. Send 500 LexCorp security forces, 400 armored vehicles along with 1500 spy drones to help coordinate their movement. Freely distribute as many exo-suits as possible.
-[X]Lex, Cassandra, Jinx, Caitlin, Siobhane, Elaine, Rebecca stays to protect LexCorp tower, along with half of your regular troops (half after subtracting forces send to provide evacuation). Other half divided proportionally between hero units you send outside. All blizzard blanket drones stays at LexCorp tower to be deployed at convenient opportunity.
-[X] Send Pamela to help evacuate Daily Planet (only whose who willing) then focus on protecting largest group of civilians. Don't bother too much with Lois. If she wants to run toward danger then let her do it, if you can plausibly forget to evacuate her then even better. If there is opportunity to give interview instruct Pamela to focus on increasing her own reputation. Don't give interview to Lois. Don't bring additional attention to Pamela ties with LexCorp.
-[X] Have Mari, Leonard, Mick and Sam protect hospital area. Give them experimental super-tank. Send Katherine Kane and Jade Crock to New Troy, give Katherine Ravager custom exo-suit. Send Mercy and Edward Well to Bakerline. Have drones and individuals in the invisible man suits scout out which areas have Brainiac's forces most heavily concentrated in. Have Lucy Lane focus on coordinating with Pentagon.
-[X] Send Roxanne and Helena to Star Labs. Make sure that Star Labs technology does not fall into Brainiac hands and protect scientists. Don't bother with protecting equipment, the more material damage Star Labs suffers the better, but make sure not to be too obvious about it.
-[X] Charge Felicity, Nigma and Meena with task of finding ways to circumvent Brainiac communication suppression. Let them use LexCorp supercomputer for this task as they see fit.
-[X]Tell police and SCU to prioritize defending civilians and to help evacuate them toward designated safe zones – Metropolis subway, existing bunkers, heavily protected hospital area and so on. Send 500 LexCorp security forces, 400 armored vehicles along with 1500 spy drones to help coordinate their movement. Freely distribute as many exo-suits as possible.
-[X]Lex, Cassandra, Jinx, Caitlin, Siobhane, Elaine, Rebecca stays to protect LexCorp tower, along with half of your regular troops (half after subtracting forces send to provide evacuation). Other half divided proportionally between hero units you send outside. All blizzard blanket drones stays at LexCorp tower to be deployed at convenient opportunity.
-[X] Send Pamela to help evacuate Daily Planet (only whose who willing) then focus on protecting largest group of civilians. Don't bother too much with Lois. If she wants to run toward danger then let her do it, if you can plausibly forget to evacuate her then even better. If there is opportunity to give interview instruct Pamela to focus on increasing her own reputation. Don't give interview to Lois. Don't bring additional attention to Pamela ties with LexCorp.
-[X] Have Mari, Leonard, Mick and Sam protect hospital area. Give them experimental super-tank. Send Katherine Kane and Jade Crock to New Troy, give Katherine Ravager custom exo-suit. Send Mercy and Edward Well to Bakerline. Have drones and individuals in the invisible man suits scout out which areas have Brainiac's forces most heavily concentrated in. Have Lucy Lane focus on coordinating with Pentagon.
-[X] Send Roxanne and Helena to Star Labs. Make sure that Star Labs technology does not fall into Brainiac hands and protect scientists. Don't bother with protecting equipment, the more material damage Star Labs suffers the better, but make sure not to be too obvious about it.
-[X] Charge Felicity, Nigma and Meena with task of finding ways to circumvent Brainiac communication suppression. Let them use LexCorp supercomputer for this task as they see fit.