If you are fixing stuff, can you please get rid of the 3 extra successes that we got for EPC out of nowhere? (Or tell me where we got them if I'm just wrong?)
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Kang Zihao's charge was practically unblockable for the late red Ling Qi. Meizhen's carded gaze is pretty scary with all those dice against Huang Da. Sun Liling's attack leave toxic effects that Meizhen can't fully heal on her own fast enough. Xuan Shi managed to trap Ji Rong for a month.
Sure, these are Yellow peers, but those are pretty scary effects.
On the subject of Reds, Hong Lin's armor penetration and fast step hard hit combo are devastating. People with Perception Arts, AoE elements, or Dispel techniques. Formations users in general.
We shouldn't just invest in FVM. Actually, I would want to invest in Dispel type Blast Art, since Ling Qi has talent in debuffs.
Sure, these are Yellow peers, but those are pretty scary effects.
On the subject of Reds, Hong Lin's armor penetration and fast step hard hit combo are devastating. People with Perception Arts, AoE elements, or Dispel techniques. Formations users in general.
We shouldn't just invest in FVM. Actually, I would want to invest in Dispel type Blast Art, since Ling Qi has talent in debuffs.
But is it ONLY cultivation arts or all arts including cultivation?
It's all arts. This was actually answered before, though I can't find the post.
I think you're severely overestimating the average growth rate.
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What was answered before, iirc, was that the triggered rolls were for all arts, not the basic +5.
If, when not having a action dedicated to training with the golden field group, we could use the bonus physical cultivation from Starlight to cultivating with them or if it defaults to a cultivating alone action. The latter makes much more sense, but I wanted to be certain.
While that might be changed later on, currently it doesn't work like that. We've seen that losing FVM doesn't turn off GC, just that we need FVM/low-light when activating GC.
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An interesting thing to me is how much our first meeting with Cai parallels are first meeting with Bai.
Both of them are condescending and expect very little from the people they're talking to. Both of them are extremely blunt and forthright while still managing to maintain decorum and etiquette. It was - I think Fate/Stay Night where it was noted that even the antiheroes did not lie due to their sense of pride and I get a very similar feeling here. Not that they're unwilling to lie (though I suspect that they'd at most lie by omission), but that they generally don't and don't even feel the need to take into account other people's feelings. You act in the way you have to act (tea, politeness, etc.) but the way you act is not for some basic social reason like keeping tensions down, it's just the way you need to act to be civilized and human.
We thought Fan Yu was an idiot for wanting to run around and crash into opponents during the first test, but I'm starting to suspect that this is actually some sort of noble 'ideal' in that it's one of their core values to be blunt. Han Jian may actually be one of the finest tacticians on the mountain purely because his personality is more suited to indirect engagements and more balanced viewpoints. He doesn't go 'I'm really strong so I can accomplish X' he goes 'I need to accomplish X therefore I should do Y.' Where he falls apart is translating the 'should' to 'will'. Once he can do so, I expect him to be rather more competent than most of his peers when it comes to war game type activities.
(It's probably not an intentional allusion, but I'm reminded of Yeats' famous poem The Second Coming, where 'the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.')
Where they differ is that Bai considers Ling Qi a peer and Cai does not. This perhaps gave people an unhealthy set of expectations towards Cai, thinking that she'd consider Ling Qi an equal when it's quite likely she literally considers no one an equal and instead views the world through a hierarchical lens.
But Bai is one of the few people (or at least disciples) that knows all of Ling Qi's accomplishments or close to. The speed of her cultivation? She probably knows it down to the day Ling Qi broke through. The lucky prize she got at Zhou's test? She knows it. The fact that Ling Qi stumbled across an Argent Vent? She knows it. The fact that Ling Qi is now in possession of an extremely powerful spirit beast egg? Ditto. She is also one of the few people who has been introduced to all of Ling Qi's acquaintances, or close enough to. She ironically knows the most about Ling Qi's life on the mountain, while being the one that knows the least about Ling Qi's past.
Everyone else basically only knows Ling Qi as having been lucky once (at Zhou's test) and otherwise a cultivation monster as opposed to a luck monster and fairly good at cultivation.
/random thoughts
Both of them are condescending and expect very little from the people they're talking to. Both of them are extremely blunt and forthright while still managing to maintain decorum and etiquette. It was - I think Fate/Stay Night where it was noted that even the antiheroes did not lie due to their sense of pride and I get a very similar feeling here. Not that they're unwilling to lie (though I suspect that they'd at most lie by omission), but that they generally don't and don't even feel the need to take into account other people's feelings. You act in the way you have to act (tea, politeness, etc.) but the way you act is not for some basic social reason like keeping tensions down, it's just the way you need to act to be civilized and human.
We thought Fan Yu was an idiot for wanting to run around and crash into opponents during the first test, but I'm starting to suspect that this is actually some sort of noble 'ideal' in that it's one of their core values to be blunt. Han Jian may actually be one of the finest tacticians on the mountain purely because his personality is more suited to indirect engagements and more balanced viewpoints. He doesn't go 'I'm really strong so I can accomplish X' he goes 'I need to accomplish X therefore I should do Y.' Where he falls apart is translating the 'should' to 'will'. Once he can do so, I expect him to be rather more competent than most of his peers when it comes to war game type activities.
(It's probably not an intentional allusion, but I'm reminded of Yeats' famous poem The Second Coming, where 'the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.')
Where they differ is that Bai considers Ling Qi a peer and Cai does not. This perhaps gave people an unhealthy set of expectations towards Cai, thinking that she'd consider Ling Qi an equal when it's quite likely she literally considers no one an equal and instead views the world through a hierarchical lens.
But Bai is one of the few people (or at least disciples) that knows all of Ling Qi's accomplishments or close to. The speed of her cultivation? She probably knows it down to the day Ling Qi broke through. The lucky prize she got at Zhou's test? She knows it. The fact that Ling Qi stumbled across an Argent Vent? She knows it. The fact that Ling Qi is now in possession of an extremely powerful spirit beast egg? Ditto. She is also one of the few people who has been introduced to all of Ling Qi's acquaintances, or close enough to. She ironically knows the most about Ling Qi's life on the mountain, while being the one that knows the least about Ling Qi's past.
Everyone else basically only knows Ling Qi as having been lucky once (at Zhou's test) and otherwise a cultivation monster as opposed to a luck monster and fairly good at cultivation.
/random thoughts
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A fairly interesting post, though you might notice that Bai actually believed in us very, very quickly- before any of this. Meizhen always took it for granted that Ling Qi will be awesome, which tended to make Ling Qi feel all kind of weird.
But yeah, I basically made a post earlier about how Han Jian's a very interesting beast in how he approaches people like Ling Qi, and Bai Meizhen too. I would also hazard that Cai Renxiang is also outside the norms for what she does, she's just outside the norms in totally different ways from Han Jian and Bai Meizhen.
Where Han Jian needs to learn to be decisive but is very good at manipulating conflicts and finding subtle solutions - I am in fact reminded of Elder Zhou's second test, and how Ling Qi got the sense he had thought about her own idea but hadn't talked about it for unknown reasons-, and Bai Meizhen has all the decisiveness needed as well as is able to find subtle solutions but is awkward about wanting to see people and manipulating conflicts, Cai Renxiangs seems to follow the pattern, where she is Decisive and well able to manipulate conflicts.... but is not able to find subtle solutions.
EDIT: I should have said Decisiveness, Flexibility, Social appreciation.
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Two small things from the past, I dunno, 15? pages of discussion.
Cai Renxiang is also several years younger than Kiryuin Satsuki at the start of KLK. When we see the short tidbits of Satsuki in middle school she's even worse than she is while she's running Honnouji. Cai Renxiang by comparison is definitely on the unpolished side of things.
Regardless of the actual number, I think it's a little heedless to apply human methods of cultivation to spirits. Do spirits have arts and all the other trappings of human cultivation, or do they just do the things that they do because they're spirits? We don't really know for sure. Su Ling is mostly human, even if she's spirit-blooded, so she might have arts based on spirit heritage, but do Heijin and Cui have meridians and cultivation levels and arts, or just defined actions available to them as rough equivalents to art techniques?
Ah, no. the bonus roll is just a bonus, it doesn't grant another action
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It's a big thing that one of spirits' main weaknesses, compared to humans, is that while they are born with a lot of meridians they are unable to open any new ones without extensive help from humans.
So they have meridians.
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Han Jian and the Han Group are mostly resolved at this point. We've cooled down tensions with time, revealing the tokens to them, and hanging out with Han Jian and Gu Xiulan. They're still jealous and bothered I feel, but you'll notice that Ling Qi is feeling better about Han Jian. They still need to get over their issues (the Heijin/Han Jian conflict; whatever it is; The Gu/Fan/Han possible love triangle, Fan Yu's lack of talent and Han Fang being ignored by Gu etc.), but we've done the best we can for now.
We're also in quite a good relationship with Meizhen, and she doesn't seem bothered anymore by Cai inviting us. Considering she's busy with Elder Ying there are no problems here.
Gu Xiulan is still bothered, but we've been going out with her for a while, there are no major problems here.
After the mission next week, we'd probably have a decent relationship with Cai and possibly Guangli.
Which just leaves Li Suyin. I really think we should get her back to studying next week so she can be happy again. If we do that I think we're mostly fine, since I'm one of those people who seriously suspect she has any sort of connection to Cai's mission.
So yes, other than Suyin I think we're done putting out fires.
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We'll still want to at least open a Spine Meridian though for the purposes of training SCS for our next pill binge though I think, and we'll probably want to strive to get another 10 points so we can get a good art from the second level to train so we get both of the Spiritual Cultivation rolls.
Hmm, @yrsillar , if we set things up to take a Sect Mission or two, can we then put a conditional down saying "If we manage to get 20 Sect Points, spend them to look in the second level of the Archive. Otherwise, look in the first?"
Hmm, @yrsillar , if we set things up to take a Sect Mission or two, can we then put a conditional down saying "If we manage to get 20 Sect Points, spend them to look in the second level of the Archive. Otherwise, look in the first?"
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We can do a pill binge without using Sable Light Pill. We have enough good pills for that. But yeah, for Sable Light itself I'd say it's better to hold on a bit more. We are at a point where our belongings are mostly safe, so I want to be able to maximise the fuck out of the last Sable Light Pill binge.
I'm hoping to get a pill that either gives a bonus meridian or bonus art roll.
*quietly nudges the gasoline and matches out of sight*
Yeah I suppose this would be fine.
Pill binge is unlikely to be before week 19. As next week we'll probably be taking Cai's job which will set us for a while money wise.
I'd like to reiterate my plan of a Highsun, Darkmoon and sable light pill (and a load of shop bought pills) and a full week of meridian clearing at some point. That provides us 12 major actions worth of highly boosted cultivation for the price of 5 (1 physical. 1 spiritual, 5 Qi, 5 Meridians).
I'd like to reiterate my plan of a Highsun, Darkmoon and sable light pill (and a load of shop bought pills) and a full week of meridian clearing at some point. That provides us 12 major actions worth of highly boosted cultivation for the price of 5 (1 physical. 1 spiritual, 5 Qi, 5 Meridians).
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Again, we have enough other great pills to be able to wait to use Sable Light pill until it's optimal. For example, next week we can do:
[] Physical (Starlight)
[] Spiritual (Darkmoon)
[]Spine Meridians
[] Cai Mission
-[]Li Suyin minor
[] Archive Art
[] EPC
[] Spiritual
[] AM (or SCS) with Meizhen
[] Qi (Snowy)
[] Qi (Snowy)
[] Minor Gan Guangli?
That would still give us 9 cultivation actions as well as Cai mission, and we would be able to take advantage of the last possible week where we still have AS5 for a long while for those sweet Qi cultivation bonus successes. Given the Qi cultivation bonus rolls cap at two with Snowy, and get triggered by any of AM/ECP/Archive Art, even if we do choose to open a meridian in archive instead of training said art we would still benefit from 2 Qi rolls.
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Also, will the repeatable sect missions always be events or can they be automated if we clear them once? I was wondering if we'd have to play through the moonfill event next week too.
repeatable missions will not be events. Further moonfills will likely not be events unless something major happens, in which case it won't exactly be about the moonfill