Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

He says he takes the disciple who choses to return back, and he's being used to power the formations. I suspect he can simply teleport us.

OK, but I still don't see a guarantee that the 1 that passes will be safe then. The safe person will only be the one that's being returned to the entrance?

[X] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all
-[X] Politely ask for a guarantee that Meizhen, the one who passes by, will be safe from him
 
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OK, but I still don't see a guarantee that the 1 that passes will be safe then. The safe person will only be the one that's being returned to the entrance?

[X] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all
-[X] Politely ask for a guarantee that Meizhen, the one who passes by, will be safe from him
-[X] Politely ask if we can wait on this side while Meizhen passes so we can hear / see that she makes it to the other side safely before being returned to the entrance
-[X] Offer salves / qi pills to Meizhen since she'll need them more than us (and she can return them later)
Write-ins shouldn't be the "only safe answers", so that seems unecessary. We also just got into a row by hinting to Meizhen she was fragile, so let's not do that a second time by waiting for her to pass through as well as proposing to give her basic adventuring items.

She has those, and she doesn't like it when we think she isn't in control.
 
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@TheLastOne I am sorry if my discussion with you got a bit heated. However with 5 major actions you can get the cultivation actions you want and I can argue for quests since I think sect quests are the best thing that ling qi can do for resources management.
 
Well shucks, all my math has gone out the window :( . Great update Yrsillar!

Anyway, I believe a clue can be found from the name of the event. It's the serpent's treasure, not the mouse's. So I would say that we should totally volunteer to let Meizhen go first. We got the art, we got a location, we can share the bat cores with her when she returns. I would say that this adventure is a success for us in that regard.

[x] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all

Anyway, back to the drawing board for the math. Let's see how far we can go with the new additions!
 
Does the doubling stack for each stage you are above your opponent? Are you sure it doesn't just double once, or that it scales to triple, quadruple, and so on as you add on stages?
Nope not sure at all. We haven't seen a roll where someone is multiple stages ahead of us. I'm just going with the how I think the math would go. Both ways still paint a wide gulf it just makes more sense to me to multiply multiple times for each realm. Each realm gets more overwhelming than the last.
36 vs 72 autos.
9x4 or 9x2x2x2

[x] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all
 
[X] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all

Lets say this is a test of teamwork from the elders. In that case, volunteering to leave is likely the right choice, or at the very least it isn't the wrong choice. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a reward waiting for us at the entrance, honestly - though I'm not counting on it.

Alternatively, imagine that the situation is exactly as it appears. Maybe we can pass the turtle somehow, but maybe it crushes us and Bai both like the bugs we are (relative to it). Whatever the reward is, it is hardly worth the risk.


As a further note, I'm kinda happy we get to concede in favor of Bai here. So far, this whole trip was supposed to be us returning a favor, but has ended up playing out more like Bai giving us an opportunity on a silver platter; just another debt on our end. I like the idea of balancing the scales somewhat.
 
Well shucks, all my math has gone out the window :( . Great update Yrsillar!

Anyway, I believe a clue can be found from the name of the event. It's the serpent's treasure, not the mouse's. So I would say that we should totally volunteer to let Meizhen go first. We got the art, we got a location, we can share the bat cores with her when she returns. I would say that this adventure is a success for us in that regard.

[x] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all

Anyway, back to the drawing board for the math. Let's see how far we can go with the new additions!

On one hand, we can no longer do six cultivation action turns, but we don't need them as much because with three minor actions we won't be taking the 2 or 3 cultivation action turns. This is actually pretty favorable, though I wonder what closed door cultivation looks like here.
 
On one hand, we can no longer do six cultivation action turns, but we don't need them as much because with three minor actions we won't be taking the 2 or 3 cultivation action turns. This is actually pretty favorable, though I wonder what closed door cultivation looks like here.

Each turn you will have five major actions and three minor ones. You may trade in all three minor actions for a single major action. You may also choose to attach a minor action to an appropriate major one, once per turn. For example, a minor han jian action could be chosen to attach to a group training action, or a minor su ling action could be attached to a gathering job.
*Cough Cough*
 
On one hand, we can no longer do six cultivation action turns, but we don't need them as much because we three minor actions we won't be taking the 2 or 3 cultivation action turns. This is actually pretty favorable, though I wonder what closed door cultivation looks like here.
It'd be the shortest word count for a weekly action ever!! Unless we manage the next level or something...
 
[X] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all
 
Honestly, if we approach this as a test of friendship and cooperation, both refusing is probably the Golden ending.

One refusing is normal ending, and both attack is "Admirable, but you both going to die now" suicidally brave ending.

Convincing Meizhen to go for "Both refuse" is probably impossible; the only hope for her to figure it out herself when Ling Qi shows her willingness to sacrifice her progress in order to help her.

Oh, and we can try trading, I guess, but since it is under direct orders... I dunno if anything is going to come out of it. Probably not.
 
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No one else wants to at least try and negotiate?
The terms are pretty clearly already set. We brought up good points in the update and the tortoise just doesn't seem to care for any reasoning we can bring to the table. Also doesn't hold us in any esteem.

I wouldn't really bet on 'both refusing' being ideal. It'd makes too much sense to deny a final victory to the duo if they're not willing to take the risk of going on alone.
 
But, man, Meizhen is going be so conflicted about this now; she had a "I NEED NO HELP*" episode just a few minutes ago, and now Ling Qi is doing self-sacrificial jump right in front of her face.

*Purposefully inaccurate.
 
[x] Volunteer to return. She had only come here to help Meizhen after all
-[x]Let meizhen Decide
 
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