Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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Second part of the sentence is both too arrogant and simply false, so let's not add it. Ling Qi is currently not having virtue or loyalty or integrity when it comes to her service to CRX. She might want to aim for it, but she can't say she will have it in front of Shenhua given we are currently betraying her.
We met her long before that- we first met her, or rather noticed her, during Zhou's second test just before we got the bye.
I'll note for vote makers: Shenhua doesn't want to hear our life story. She doesn't want all the little reasons or the nuance. She knows that there are many reasons.
Shenhua wants one thought. She's giving us five seconds of attention and we can only give one answer, which is best if it encapsulates a single idea. Just one. No matter that we have a half dozen reasons or that we can give an entire balance scale of nuance. That's all irrelevant. One thought, five seconds of attention. If you have a list, cut it. If your "and" is adding a second idea, cut it.
Shenhua wants one thought. She's giving us five seconds of attention and we can only give one answer, which is best if it encapsulates a single idea. Just one. No matter that we have a half dozen reasons or that we can give an entire balance scale of nuance. That's all irrelevant. One thought, five seconds of attention. If you have a list, cut it. If your "and" is adding a second idea, cut it.
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Kai Merah
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Okay, if the moratorium is over, then with this in mind,
I will try to make a vote that's more guideline than exact words.
[X] Ling Qi follows Cai Renxiang because
-[X] Absolute material advantage granting growth, security, influence, etc (up to yrs how much to elaborate on this)
--[X] Integrity of Renxiang's character meaning she can be trusted to look after her minions
---[X] Interest in being a better person and seeing if Renxiang's ideal world is even possible to build in real life.
I'd rather leave Meizhen out of our expressed reasons because holy shit, revealing emotional vulnerabilities to this woman is probably the worst idea ever.
EDITED: Hopefully it can be seen in tally now.
I will try to make a vote that's more guideline than exact words.
[X] Ling Qi follows Cai Renxiang because
-[X] Absolute material advantage granting growth, security, influence, etc (up to yrs how much to elaborate on this)
--[X] Integrity of Renxiang's character meaning she can be trusted to look after her minions
---[X] Interest in being a better person and seeing if Renxiang's ideal world is even possible to build in real life.
I'd rather leave Meizhen out of our expressed reasons because holy shit, revealing emotional vulnerabilities to this woman is probably the worst idea ever.
EDITED: Hopefully it can be seen in tally now.
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[ ] THE TRUTH: "Cai's ideals are worth pursuing, and even if I don't have faith in them, I have hope that I am wrong in their impossiblty. If she can bring peace and fairness, and I help her with that, I get to stare at Gan's abs"
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- [ ] "srsly tho, dos abs. And biceps. And abs."
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Arkeus
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For now,
[X] Kai Merah
Good summary of why Ling Qi believes she wants to follow CRX without trying to push a particular phrasing that will bite us in the arse. It even has the better phrasing of "Ling Qi is interested to see the influence CRX would have on herself" rather than the cudgel of "We want what CRX wants" which forgets Ling Qi is looking for personal character growth too.
[X] Kai Merah
Good summary of why Ling Qi believes she wants to follow CRX without trying to push a particular phrasing that will bite us in the arse. It even has the better phrasing of "Ling Qi is interested to see the influence CRX would have on herself" rather than the cudgel of "We want what CRX wants" which forgets Ling Qi is looking for personal character growth too.
I basically agree with these reasons. Heck, even down to the order of importance, if I had to list em. I'd add to #1 that it's also an absolute political advantage though; Ling Qi gets to dodge a whole bunch of bullshit squabbling and suppression by being a Cai house vassal even separate from the matter of wealth. The "influence" bit mentions it, but derives from the material advantage in this formulation, whereas in reality they're parallel intertwined factors.
Also this vote doesn't show up in the tally like you intend it to.
I like the reasons, and feel they're accurate, but this is far too many ideas. Even leaving the phrasing up to Yrs, there is no way Ling Qi can communicate all that in a few seconds of speech. I don't think such a nuanced answer is possible, and it might even be breaking the spirit of the limits we're under here.
DeAnno
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#2 and #3 could maybe be merged into CRX's integrity and ideals, good qualities as a leader. I think that implies everything from #2, and the growing as a person in #3 is pretty speculative and ancillary in any case.
I also agree that it needs to be fixed so it's visible to the tally, either all on one line or a plan with subvotes for extra lines.
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[X] She told me that she would earn my loyalty.
Kai Merah
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The only limit is 3 sentences. Heck, my first write in was basically expressing this in 3 sentences.
That's the bare bones of why I think Ling Qi follows Renxiang. I'm sure yrsillar can elaborate or cut it down as needed.
[X] Kai Merah
You're taking that too literally. There limit exists to keep the write in simple, hence why it can be rejected for having many clauses. I also maintain, irrespective of limit, that we are being asked both IC and OOC for one single answer and no more.
[X] I am following her for the advantages in establishing my house and because I believe in her integrity as a leader who won't squander what I create... and to guide my own growth in such a role.
I'm basically ripping off @Kai Merah haha. The major difference is the reference to Renxiang's ideal world is folded into implication via the hierarchical nature of the Empire's society. Seeking fair treatment from her superiors and expressing a desire to be taught in the same towards her own subordinates encapsulates the spirit of Renxiang's ideal world order without being an explicit endorsement of it in its totality. This phrasing doesn't cede Ling Qi's own Path to Renxiang, but it does acknowledge the great worth of the girl's world view.
Also I tried to phrase it in a Ling Qi-ish way.
I'm basically ripping off @Kai Merah haha. The major difference is the reference to Renxiang's ideal world is folded into implication via the hierarchical nature of the Empire's society. Seeking fair treatment from her superiors and expressing a desire to be taught in the same towards her own subordinates encapsulates the spirit of Renxiang's ideal world order without being an explicit endorsement of it in its totality. This phrasing doesn't cede Ling Qi's own Path to Renxiang, but it does acknowledge the great worth of the girl's world view.
Also I tried to phrase it in a Ling Qi-ish way.
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Kai Merah
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We don't have just one single reason for following Renxiang though. We are not as straightforward as Guangli. I think the 3 reasons I included are the main essence of why Ling Qi follows Renxiang and should not be further simplified.
Absolute material advantage granting security and etc is probably our main reason. But trust in Renxiang as a person is why we trust her to give us all this and look after us and our family. Why we wouldn't just abandon ship to someone else giving us a better offer.
And lastly, of course, we're aware of our moral flaws, but we're interested in being better, and also seeing if the world can be better than what we've seen of it in our life so far.
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Ok, I like this more as it as a simple one-sentence phrasing, and it focus on how much CRX can help Ling Qi grow as a person.
[X] I am following her for the advantages in establishing my house and because I believe in her integrity as a leader who won't squander what I create... and to guide my own growth in such a role.
[X] Lady Cai's offer was the one that offered us the greatest potential for growth. She offered us a home where we could extend our roots, opportunities that would let us advance as a cultivator, an ideal that would help us grow as a person.
[x] Because through action and reputation, she has proven herself deserving of respect. Moreover, I see Lady Cai's path as the best way to create something of my own; as well for my personal growth as both a cultivator and person. Though I still question the feasibility of your daughter's vision of a better world, it is a worthy goal.
[X] I am following her for the advantages in establishing my house and because I believe in her integrity as a leader who won't squander what I create... and to guide my own growth in such a role.
[X] Lady Cai's offer was the one that offered us the greatest potential for growth. She offered us a home where we could extend our roots, opportunities that would let us advance as a cultivator, an ideal that would help us grow as a person.
[x] Because through action and reputation, she has proven herself deserving of respect. Moreover, I see Lady Cai's path as the best way to create something of my own; as well for my personal growth as both a cultivator and person. Though I still question the feasibility of your daughter's vision of a better world, it is a worthy goal.
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