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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
Sorry, left over from a previous plan. Fixed now.
Fixed now. I unattached muse and attached tutoring for Su Ling instead.
We need SO MANY THINGS. But I'm going Lung first, because I think we need it for a couple of arts and I think equipping FSS is a priority.
It was an easy attach. I can't exactly attach Suyin to Xiulan training, can I?
- Location
- United States of America
Yeah, that would be a terrible idea. The thought of those two interacting again sends shivers down my spine.
[X] Plan Music and Wood
-[X] Overflow to spiritual, vent drip to AS, Grinning Moon successes to PLR
-[X] Buy stuff
--[X] Neophyte's Blade (150 RSS)
--[X] 1 YSS (10 RSS) so we use 4 this week after including our virtual stones
--[X] Heavy Rains Pill (15 RSS), 10 Dice Wood Pills (30 RSS), 10 Dice Water Pills (30 RSS), 10 Dice Darkness Pills (40 RSS), 5 dice music pills (15 RSS)
--[X] Total Expenditures: 150 + 10 + 15 + 30 + 30 + 40 + 15 = 290 RSS
-[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[X] (MAJOR) FSS
-[X] (MAJOR) Head out to Search for the cavern shown to you in the Moon Quest
-[X] Cultivate in the White Room
--[X] (MAJOR) Open Lung Meridian
--[X] With Gu Xiulan
-[X] Train with Gu Xiulan
--[X] (MAJOR) TRF
--[X] (attached minor) Xiulan seems to know a fair amount about the inner Sect from her sister, see what stories she has to tell.
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] (MAJOR) PLR
--[X] (attached minor) Sixiang shouldn't be a problem for the moment, but you are interested. She said she was a muse after all, maybe she can help you improve your music?
-[X] (minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood pill
-[X] (minor) It is time to address the matter of Cai's offer, it seems she is being polite and giving you time to settle, but it would be best not to leave it for too long
-[X] (minor) Train Zhengui in the Vale, and keep an eye on him, the little glutton
Stealing @PrimalShadow other plan with his permission as I rather train FVM. Could switch to PLR though if more people want that.
edit. Switched around so I have Xiulan in the white room and took PLR instead of FVM.
-[X] Overflow to spiritual, vent drip to AS, Grinning Moon successes to PLR
-[X] Buy stuff
--[X] Neophyte's Blade (150 RSS)
--[X] 1 YSS (10 RSS) so we use 4 this week after including our virtual stones
--[X] Heavy Rains Pill (15 RSS), 10 Dice Wood Pills (30 RSS), 10 Dice Water Pills (30 RSS), 10 Dice Darkness Pills (40 RSS), 5 dice music pills (15 RSS)
--[X] Total Expenditures: 150 + 10 + 15 + 30 + 30 + 40 + 15 = 290 RSS
-[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[X] (MAJOR) FSS
-[X] (MAJOR) Head out to Search for the cavern shown to you in the Moon Quest
-[X] Cultivate in the White Room
--[X] (MAJOR) Open Lung Meridian
--[X] With Gu Xiulan
-[X] Train with Gu Xiulan
--[X] (MAJOR) TRF
--[X] (attached minor) Xiulan seems to know a fair amount about the inner Sect from her sister, see what stories she has to tell.
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] (MAJOR) PLR
--[X] (attached minor) Sixiang shouldn't be a problem for the moment, but you are interested. She said she was a muse after all, maybe she can help you improve your music?
-[X] (minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood pill
-[X] (minor) It is time to address the matter of Cai's offer, it seems she is being polite and giving you time to settle, but it would be best not to leave it for too long
-[X] (minor) Train Zhengui in the Vale, and keep an eye on him, the little glutton
Stealing @PrimalShadow other plan with his permission as I rather train FVM. Could switch to PLR though if more people want that.
edit. Switched around so I have Xiulan in the white room and took PLR instead of FVM.
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- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
No but Sixiang minor is just begging to be attached to a music Art training action.
Why not remove Xulian attached minor, that we just unlocked this week, and link Sixiang minor to Zeqing FSS training ?
We can the use the free minor slot for something else, like Suyin's which was already there last week.
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[X] Plan Dancing in the Rain
-[X] Overflow to spiritual, vent drip to AC, Grinning Moon successes to PLR
-[X] Buy stuff
--[X] Neophyte's Blade (150 RSS)
--[X] 1 YSS (10 RSS) so we use 4 this week after including our virtual stones
--[X] Heavy Rains Pill (15 RSS), 10 Dice Wood Pills (30 RSS), 5 Dice Water Pills (10 RSS), 5 Dice Moon Pills (15 RSS), 5 Dice Darkness Pills (15 RSS)
--[X] Dragon's Endurance Pill x5 (200 RSS), Bountiful Earth's Blessing (100 RSS)
--[X] Total Expenditures: 150 + 10 + 15 + 30 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 200 + 100 = 545 RSS
-[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[X] (MAJOR) FSS
--[X] (attached minor) Sixiang shouldn't be a problem for the moment, but you are interested. She said she was a muse after all, maybe she can help you improve your music?
-[X] (MAJOR) Head out to Search for the cavern shown to you in the Moon Quest
-[X] Cultivate in the White Room
--[X] (MAJOR) Open Lung Meridian
--[X] With Su Ling
-[X] Train with Meizhen
--[X] (MAJOR) PLR
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] (MAJOR) TRF
--[X] (attached minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood pill
-[X] (minor) It is time to address the matter of Cai's offer, it seems she is being polite and giving you time to settle, but it would be best not to leave it for too long
-[X] (minor) Train Zhengui in the Vale, and keep an eye on him, the little glutton
-[X] (minor) You and Suyin could continue working on the pale manual formations, perhaps you could ask Xuan Shi for a tip or two?
For people who prefer PLR to AE.
EDIT: Further changelog:
Has our Muse spirit meet Zeqing, and swaps the Xiulan minor for the Suyin one.
Xiulan training swapped for Meizhen training.
Changed Vent drip to AC from AS on Black Noise's request.
PLR and TRF swapped. Now Su Ling gets to practice her stabby art while we use our anti-stabbing art, instead of while we use our illusion art.
-[X] Overflow to spiritual, vent drip to AC, Grinning Moon successes to PLR
-[X] Buy stuff
--[X] Neophyte's Blade (150 RSS)
--[X] 1 YSS (10 RSS) so we use 4 this week after including our virtual stones
--[X] Heavy Rains Pill (15 RSS), 10 Dice Wood Pills (30 RSS), 5 Dice Water Pills (10 RSS), 5 Dice Moon Pills (15 RSS), 5 Dice Darkness Pills (15 RSS)
--[X] Dragon's Endurance Pill x5 (200 RSS), Bountiful Earth's Blessing (100 RSS)
--[X] Total Expenditures: 150 + 10 + 15 + 30 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 200 + 100 = 545 RSS
-[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[X] (MAJOR) FSS
--[X] (attached minor) Sixiang shouldn't be a problem for the moment, but you are interested. She said she was a muse after all, maybe she can help you improve your music?
-[X] (MAJOR) Head out to Search for the cavern shown to you in the Moon Quest
-[X] Cultivate in the White Room
--[X] (MAJOR) Open Lung Meridian
--[X] With Su Ling
-[X] Train with Meizhen
--[X] (MAJOR) PLR
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] (MAJOR) TRF
--[X] (attached minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood pill
-[X] (minor) It is time to address the matter of Cai's offer, it seems she is being polite and giving you time to settle, but it would be best not to leave it for too long
-[X] (minor) Train Zhengui in the Vale, and keep an eye on him, the little glutton
-[X] (minor) You and Suyin could continue working on the pale manual formations, perhaps you could ask Xuan Shi for a tip or two?
For people who prefer PLR to AE.
EDIT: Further changelog:
Has our Muse spirit meet Zeqing, and swaps the Xiulan minor for the Suyin one.
Xiulan training swapped for Meizhen training.
Changed Vent drip to AC from AS on Black Noise's request.
PLR and TRF swapped. Now Su Ling gets to practice her stabby art while we use our anti-stabbing art, instead of while we use our illusion art.
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You want to take Sixiang to go work with Zequing?
That is an... interesting idea. Sure, I'll do that in my newest plan. Sounds like fun.
EDIT: Done.
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Gotta admit that Sixiang+Zeqing sounds intriguing as a option. It could go so wrong but also so right.
Black Noise
Curious
- Location
- About 1AU from Sol
OK for people who aren't aware; there's no good reason to train FSS or FVM without Zeqing:
- We have 10 weeks left
- FSS2 will take 2 actions, FVM6 will take 3. FSS3 (assuming ~250xp) is likely to take 4, leaving us with a week to spare already
- FVM7 and FSS4 are unlikely to still be Early Green, but even if they are; we'll know about FVM7 as on week 46 at the latest, leaving us with 5 weeks to learn it (if it's possible but would take more than 5 weeks to train, then maybe it's not the best idea in the first place)
- If we are gonna train both on the same week, we should do it on SLP weeks, that way we at least save some Spiritual xp from Meridians we'd otherwise open in the White Room
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
Honestly yes, it's an interesting idea. The muse might also be a good influence for Zenqing's daughter, and with Zenqing herself present should obviously behave herself.
Teaching Su Ling AC when she faces our AE summoned worms makes sense, or if we were training AC ourself, or maybe TRF to provide a target like with Xulian.
But i just can't see how Su Ling could train AC when we dazzle her with PLR's phantasms (or FVM's mist in @Vanguard_D plan)...
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] Plan Dancing in the Rain
Done.
It actually makes a lot of sense, because we are probably going to go with the Xiulan Minor + Major at some point soon, whereas the Meizhen major seems harder to fit in.
Can't speak for primal shadow but for me at least it's because:
1. Su Ling is our friend too and giving her at least one chance at the white room is a nice thing to do.
2.Xiulan has had quite a few trips to the white room and will almost certainly be virtually monopolising it until the year's end and I'd like to give Su Ling a chance.
3.The lesson with argent current is probably our best chance to give this to Su Ling without triggering her charity alarm.
4. I want to give Su Ling a helping hand since she isn't likely to come to the inner sect with us (at least this year) and has a 4th realm mother she eventually wants to put down.
5. I like Su Ling.
[X] Plan Wormwood
I'd like to see what level 3 of AE is like before we entirely write it off and it's vastly easier to train than PLR. May switch to dancing in the rain for Suyin & Xuan Shi combo though.
Here are some points about cultivation in the following ten weeks.
1. Do you want Appraisal? Appraisal is doable if we carefully craft our training plan to match. It can technically be achieved Week 50, which means we get to take Week 51 as a SLP week with two GSS, but that plan is probably bad because we would have to save SLP-compatible actions for Week 51, and most of those actions (black pool arts, meridians) also train spiritual so it's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. The better plan ignores this and hits Appraisal exactly Week 51, so the object is the extra autosuccess rather than anything else.
The problem, if you want Appraisal, is that we have to craft our training plan to put as many dice towards Black Pool arts (FVM, FSS, AE, and especially AC) and towards silverblood weeks (mainly for AC as it double dips silverblood + black pool). It does not mean maxing out argent arts on silverblood weeks as a black pool art does as much to spiritual because they have a higher base dicepool. It also means that in later weeks we'll have to start doing spiritual cultivation or putting EPC successes towards it, approximately 5 spiritual cultivation actions and a few weeks of EPC success going to spiritual.
Requirements for Appraisal:
- Train AC for at least 4 silverblood weeks. That means we may as well train for AC5.
- Train spiritual several times.
- Drop one of AM5/TRF5/other combination that saves 5-6 actions (AS3+4+AE4 for example).
- Spend ~400 more RSS than other plans, cultivation drugs are expensive.
2. Do you want an archive art? An archive art requires careful sculpting of our sect missions, because we have to pay for the art several weeks early or we don't have time to train it. It also requires additional meridians actions, and we additionally lose a few tutoring actions. We also have to backload our tutoring. Based on @Black Noise's weekly planner, we could potentially achieve level 3 in an archive art if it was similar to FSS and we obtained it on or before Week 46.
Requirements for an archive art:
- Do missions for at least four weeks where we do not tutor, including at least three front-loaded (meaning the next three weeks) so we can do SLP weeks in addition to gaining an archive art.
- Due to less tutoring actions and additional meridian requirements, drop at least two out of AM5/AE4/AC5/TRF5.
- That also means only 2 silverblood weeks are required, which means no appraisal.
3. Do you want to max a particular art suite? If you find yourself demanding one particular art atop your list, you should know that we will have to drop something. Basically your art suite cannot include ALL of AM5(6)/TRF5(6)/AC5(3)/AC4(2)/AE4(3)/AS4(1)/AS3(2)/FSS3/FVM6/SCS6/PLR2. Listed in brackets are the minimum number of actions saved if that art level is avoided. There aren't enough actions to finish everything, my guess is we'll need to free up ~7-10 actions when all the dust clears given that we've had action-eating priorities come up over and over and also given that we won't be laying down optimal training plans. If we get lucky and we train optimally and we get lucky with training successes, we might be able to just squeak by with everything listed, but it isn't going to happen.
4. Do you want to make room for FVM7 or FSS4? If yes, you have to take care to leave 6-7 weeks to train FVM7/FSS4. But you also have to understand that having either art available in Early Green is entirely based on luck. It is a gamble, one that wastes actions from Zeqing training, reduces SLP week qi, and makes it harder to hit Appraisal if you are wrong.
Requirements for FVM7/FSS4:
- Complete FVM6/FSS3 by Week 45-56 (1-2 weeks can be made up using EPC successes).
- Drop one or even two of AM5/TRF5/AC4/AE4.
- Get lucky.
I must strongly emphasize, we cannot get everything, and this is the first week we start locking ourselves out of choices farther down the line. For example, by choosing to train TRF this week, we are already committing to dropping one of AM5/AC5/AE4.
On the other hand, if we don't choose to start TRF this week or next week, we will not finish it at all. So we have to commit to something!
1. Do you want Appraisal? Appraisal is doable if we carefully craft our training plan to match. It can technically be achieved Week 50, which means we get to take Week 51 as a SLP week with two GSS, but that plan is probably bad because we would have to save SLP-compatible actions for Week 51, and most of those actions (black pool arts, meridians) also train spiritual so it's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. The better plan ignores this and hits Appraisal exactly Week 51, so the object is the extra autosuccess rather than anything else.
The problem, if you want Appraisal, is that we have to craft our training plan to put as many dice towards Black Pool arts (FVM, FSS, AE, and especially AC) and towards silverblood weeks (mainly for AC as it double dips silverblood + black pool). It does not mean maxing out argent arts on silverblood weeks as a black pool art does as much to spiritual because they have a higher base dicepool. It also means that in later weeks we'll have to start doing spiritual cultivation or putting EPC successes towards it, approximately 5 spiritual cultivation actions and a few weeks of EPC success going to spiritual.
Requirements for Appraisal:
- Train AC for at least 4 silverblood weeks. That means we may as well train for AC5.
- Train spiritual several times.
- Drop one of AM5/TRF5/other combination that saves 5-6 actions (AS3+4+AE4 for example).
- Spend ~400 more RSS than other plans, cultivation drugs are expensive.
2. Do you want an archive art? An archive art requires careful sculpting of our sect missions, because we have to pay for the art several weeks early or we don't have time to train it. It also requires additional meridians actions, and we additionally lose a few tutoring actions. We also have to backload our tutoring. Based on @Black Noise's weekly planner, we could potentially achieve level 3 in an archive art if it was similar to FSS and we obtained it on or before Week 46.
Requirements for an archive art:
- Do missions for at least four weeks where we do not tutor, including at least three front-loaded (meaning the next three weeks) so we can do SLP weeks in addition to gaining an archive art.
- Due to less tutoring actions and additional meridian requirements, drop at least two out of AM5/AE4/AC5/TRF5.
- That also means only 2 silverblood weeks are required, which means no appraisal.
3. Do you want to max a particular art suite? If you find yourself demanding one particular art atop your list, you should know that we will have to drop something. Basically your art suite cannot include ALL of AM5(6)/TRF5(6)/AC5(3)/AC4(2)/AE4(3)/AS4(1)/AS3(2)/FSS3/FVM6/SCS6/PLR2. Listed in brackets are the minimum number of actions saved if that art level is avoided. There aren't enough actions to finish everything, my guess is we'll need to free up ~7-10 actions when all the dust clears given that we've had action-eating priorities come up over and over and also given that we won't be laying down optimal training plans. If we get lucky and we train optimally and we get lucky with training successes, we might be able to just squeak by with everything listed, but it isn't going to happen.
4. Do you want to make room for FVM7 or FSS4? If yes, you have to take care to leave 6-7 weeks to train FVM7/FSS4. But you also have to understand that having either art available in Early Green is entirely based on luck. It is a gamble, one that wastes actions from Zeqing training, reduces SLP week qi, and makes it harder to hit Appraisal if you are wrong.
Requirements for FVM7/FSS4:
- Complete FVM6/FSS3 by Week 45-56 (1-2 weeks can be made up using EPC successes).
- Drop one or even two of AM5/TRF5/AC4/AE4.
- Get lucky.
I must strongly emphasize, we cannot get everything, and this is the first week we start locking ourselves out of choices farther down the line. For example, by choosing to train TRF this week, we are already committing to dropping one of AM5/AC5/AE4.
On the other hand, if we don't choose to start TRF this week or next week, we will not finish it at all. So we have to commit to something!
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Hmm. I can swap TRF and PLR, I guess. Anyone object to that?
Black Noise
Curious
- Location
- About 1AU from Sol
[X] Plan Dancing in the Rain
More infodumps on plans, this time on Vent Drip and why it should go to AC for the next 2-3 weeks:
More infodumps on plans, this time on Vent Drip and why it should go to AC for the next 2-3 weeks:
- With 5/5 pills and a tutor, AS will be 11 xp over target for AS3 in 1 action
- With 10/5 pills and a tutor, AC will be 191/200 in 1 action; 2-3 vent drips are enough to save an action
- Though we want AC for its Black Pool bonus dice, it won't matter because:
- we're not gonna spend more than 1 action if we stop at AC4
- if we go for AC5 we're gonna get the same vent xp into spiritual via overflow, only later
- With vent xp already in, we're much more likely to level AC with a Tutor instead of with the vent, might be better for narrative