Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

So I think Xiulan, Sixiang and Zhengui ought to be considered mandatory. Xiulan, we haven't properly talked to in ages and we know she's been having trouble. Sixiang, I feel somewhat responsible for unleashing on our unsuspecting sect, plus it's an obvious narrative bait. Zhengui we also haven't spent nearly enough time with.

Kinda also liking the Meizhen and Cai minors but those don't feel quite as urgent.
 
[] Plan Efficiency
-[] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Eight Phase Ceremony
-[] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Storm
-[] Overflow -> Spiritual
-[] Use 4 YSS, Heavy Rains Pill, 10 dice of meridian bonuses (total cost: 30 + 15 + 60 = 105 RSS)
-[] (MAJOR) Take the Lost And Found job
-[] Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[] (MAJOR) Forgotten Vale Melody
-[] (MAJOR) Attempt to placate the Dragon of the Valley
-[] Cultivate in the White Room With Xiulan
--[] (MAJOR) Open Leg Meridian
---[] If we have enough successes, open a second Leg Meridian
--[] (attached minor) Perhaps Xiulan could use some help. Track down her training ground and see what she's been up too.
-[] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[] (MAJOR) Open Head Meridian
--[] (attached minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood
--[] Do this AFTER cultivating at the white room
-[] (minor) Invite Meizhen out shopping, you could use some advice for what to look for in flying swords
-[] (minor) Zhengui's efforts are coming along well, but Gu Tai mentioned that he might be able to help, take him up on it
-[] (minor) You… should probably look into what Sixiang is actually doing. The spirit did follow you home.

I'll be posting this plan officially after 2hrs are up. In the meantime, I welcome comments/suggestions.
 
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So we have three minors + two attached minors at this point, so a well planed 'plan' gives us five minors total.

We'll regret it if we lose track of Sixiang too long. We need to touch base with Xiulan I think, she's also a close friend and we haven't in a while. Getting Zhengui help is big. Getting a flying sword would be nice. And I want our moblile oppression fotress, so Suyin seems like the last choice.

That's my minor preference, the ones I'll support.

I won't support a Cai action. We just had one, and their sort of always a waste. They don't help us, they aren't spending time with our friends. They just eat actions.
 
We didn't choose friendship as our path. That matters.

Err... Ling Qi chosen something not that dissimilar from "friendship". It's about making a home, a home where friends can rest and be safe.

That seems close enough to me.

Besides, her friendships are actually doing pretty well. Li Suyin's still a bit hero-worshipping, Su Ling is more comfortable, Meizhen has a bit of heartbreak but their relationship seems pretty solid, Xiulan is working hard... Han Jian's rather distant at the moment, but he's not hostile.

So I think Xiulan, Sixiang and Zhengui ought to be considered mandatory. Xiulan, we haven't properly talked to in ages and we know she's been having trouble. Sixiang, I feel somewhat responsible for unleashing on our unsuspecting sect, plus it's an obvious narrative bait. Zhengui we also haven't spent nearly enough time with.

Kinda also liking the Meizhen and Cai minors but those don't feel quite as urgent.

I'd say the Meizhen one is moderately important - Ling Qi still doesn't know just what a flying sword is all about, doesn't know how much she should save up to budget for a cheap one, could use some insights into how having one might help her train Domain, etc.
 
In order to get a stealth role I wonder if it is possible to do a tutor for SCS and ask for stealth training? Wouldn't that get the stealth sucess we need?
 
I'll be posting this plan officially after 2hrs are up. In the meantime, I welcome comments/suggestions
I'm personally not comfortable with the condition under the vent action where we open 2 meridians if we have enough successes. Seems too much like gaming the system to me. Either go all in on opening two meridians or just open one.

I would suggest having the overflow go to qi instead of spiritual, as I am not entirely sure getting to Green 2 is worth it action and dedication wise. I would much rather have the extra qi. However, that is entirely preferential on my part.
 
We are green now. We have to answer to Cai on her offer.

Also, ripping off the bandaid on waifu war, future employer version.
 
...You know, I'm happy with all the spirit-friends and music-talent we have, but I'm really sad we didn't pick path Friendship now. Poor Han Jian. I'm still not entirely certain how we ended up with such a distant relationship with him when he was the first to offer to help us.

Is it weird that seeing Lakegate 2.0 makes me want to cling to Meizhen even harder? I kinda wish they had done some silly sisterhood ritual. Also, I'm a bit surprised that the Cai action hasn't changed from last week. We broke through, but the minor is still to chat about tea with her? No mention of "Give Cai your answer"? Or is it just assumed that if we take the minor, we'll probably have to answer the question? If it's assumed that the next Cai action we take will have her politely requesting our answer, I kinda want to avoid her until Renshu is taken care of then. Don't feel like we can swear loyalty to her with the Fu Xiang thing over our heads. Ugh.

On a lighter note, apparently Golden Fields isn't Tomb Raider, it's Fallout. Who'd have thought?
 
It's partially that we didn't spend a lot of actions on him, but also partially because he recognized he was wasting his life and doubled down on unfucking himself, and then shortly after that, he set his crew on fire and it was a full time job keeping that together--let alone trying to bring us in.

And to a certain extent, he recognized he couldn't bring us in as a future retainer either, because we'd outpace him--exactly as what happened.
 
I'm going to leave off the part about trying for a second Leg meridian in our plan. It has been pointed out to me that that is poorly supported, so I'll leave things entirely to yrsillar's discretion.

I'm considering switching the Vent Meridian action right now. If someone has a better idea, I'm listening.
 
I confess I hadn't quite realized there was a clan on a level above the Han in Golden Fields. It cools my interest in the Gu offer a bit.
 
I'm considering switching the Vent Meridian action right now. If someone has a better idea, I'm listening.
Possibly switch it to SCS? SCS is going to be a slog to train through, so the earlier we start the earlier it is done. Switch the Argent Vent bonus to AC instead of AM though if you are going to do that.

Alternatively, switch the leg meridian to a head meridian for the White Room and start training AM at the Vent. It will also be a slog to get done.

In the alternative, Keep the leg meridian in the White Room, and switch the vent action for a tutor to train FSS and SCS, or another combination of darkness arts.

A different approach would be to switch vent training to training PLR so that we can have an idea of what it does, and how extensive it would take to level it up.
 
I'm happy with sisterhood with Meizhen. I'm 150% a 'bros before hoes' kinda person. When the one sided teenie romance started, Meizhen dropped considerably off my favourite characters ranking because I really don't care for that shit.

What made me feel a bit melancholy this update was Han Jian being so distant from us. It does suck to grow distant from a friend regardless of reason.
 
Possibly switch it to SCS? SCS is going to be a slog to train through, so the earlier we start the earlier it is done. Switch the Argent Vent bonus to AC instead of AM though if you are going to do that.
Not SCS. SCS being slow to train means that flat bonuses matter more to it than other arts, so I'm going to wait until we have EPC there.

Anyways - I've got my plan together. I'm going to slot in FSS, both because it shares all the elements of FVM and because we don't really know how many ranks in it we can get so I want to start pushing sooner rather than later.

A different approach would be to switch vent training to training PLR so that we can have an idea of what it does, and how extensive it would take to level it up.
EPC starts including PLR next level, so training that now instead of waiting a turn doesn't match my plan name.
 
If only Han Jian was female. Then s/he would have been both more popular among the playerbase and more accessible.

(Though a male Xiulan equivalent would trip a few more flags in readers' heads also and edge in on Huang Da's story space a little?)

Well. PS' protoplan looks pretty good to me. One of the Argent arts instead of the meridian at the vent might be good. Or maybe those should only be trained with Silverblood...? Depends on how much we want Argent Questionmark.
 
[X] Plan Efficient Music
-[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Storm
-[X] Overflow -> Spiritual
-[X] Use 2 virtual and 2 real YSS, Heavy Rains Pill, 5 dice of music bonuses, 10 dice of darkness bonuses, 10 dice of water bonuses (total cost: 20 + 15 + 15 + 40 + 30 = 120 RSS)

-[X] (MAJOR) Take the Lost And Found job

-[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[X] (MAJOR) Forgotten Vale Melody

-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] (MAJOR) Frozen Soul Serenade
--[X] (attached minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood

-[X] (MAJOR) Attempt to placate the Dragon of the Valley

-[X] Cultivate in the White Room With Xiulan
--[X] (MAJOR) Open Leg Meridian
--[X] (attached minor) Perhaps Xiulan could use some help. Track down her training ground and see what she's been up too.

-[X] (minor) Invite Meizhen out shopping, you could use some advice for what to look for in flying swords
-[X] (minor) Zhengui's efforts are coming along well, but Gu Tai mentioned that he might be able to help, take him up on it
-[X] (minor) You… should probably look into what Sixiang is actually doing. The spirit did follow you home.
 
I'm going to leave off the part about trying for a second Leg meridian in our plan. It has been pointed out to me that that is poorly supported, so I'll leave things entirely to yrsillar's discretion
Ok, that's not something we want to just do. Last time we discussed this, @yrsillar said he might take up my suggestion of making it so that if we try this we have to wager the overflow - i.e. so if we don't get enough then we just lose the overflow entirely. We should check how he's going to play it though.

Anyway, the reason I say this is that if we aren't trying for a double meridian then we shouldn't be wasting stones on expensive pills. The return is terrible. This has to be a decision we make - it can't just be left up in the air.
Adhoc vote count started by Erebeal on Feb 26, 2018 at 8:39 PM, finished with 52864 posts and 1 votes.

  • [X] Plan Efficient Music
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Eight Phase Ceremony
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Storm
    -[X] Overflow -> Spiritual
    -[X] Use 2 virtual and 2 real YSS, Heavy Rains Pill, 5 dice of music bonuses, 10 dice of darkness bonuses, 10 dice of water bonuses (total cost: 20 + 15 + 15 + 40 + 30 = 120 RSS)
    -[X] (MAJOR) Take the Lost And Found job
    -[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
    --[X] (MAJOR) Forgotten Vale Melody
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] (MAJOR) Frozen Soul Serenade
    --[X] (attached minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood
    -[X] (MAJOR) Attempt to placate the Dragon of the Valley
    -[X] Cultivate in the White Room With Xiulan
    --[X] (MAJOR) Open Leg Meridian
    --[X] (attached minor) Perhaps Xiulan could use some help. Track down her training ground and see what she's been up too.
    -[X] (minor) Invite Meizhen out shopping, you could use some advice for what to look for in flying swords
    -[X] (minor) Zhengui's efforts are coming along well, but Gu Tai mentioned that he might be able to help, take him up on it
    -[X] (minor) You… should probably look into what Sixiang is actually doing. The spirit did follow you home.
 
Last time we discussed this, @yrsillar said he might take up my suggestion of making it so that if we try this we have to wager the overflow - i.e. so if we don't get enough then we just lose the overflow entirely. We should check how he's going to play it though.

Anyway, the reason I say this is that if we aren't trying for a double meridian then we shouldn't be wasting stones on expensive pills. The return is terrible. This has to be a decision we make - it can't just be left up in the air.
Yes. I'm not trying for the double meridian in my plan, so I've stripped most of the pills. A wager would be a bad call for us; it has us risking a bunch of XP just to save the difference between a Meridian action and a Spiritual Cultivation action, which I don't think is worth trying without overwhelming odds.
 
[X] Plan Efficient Music

Seems solid. I would like to start working on more formations pretty soon but I don't think that will happen this week.
 
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