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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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PrimalShadow said:
When our friend is hard to find and seems busy doing other things, we spend less time on them. Nothing wrong with that.
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She's disappeared for one week because she was busy. There were 3 other weeks we could have had an action with her, I think this makes the 4th. All of these actions were there to catch up with her and have some casual off time, but none of those opportunities were taken.

On the other hand, we had an action with Gu Xiulan every week for the past month and went on an event with her.

Broken25 said:
Suyin is having fun with her new senpai, let her be. She can take care of herself.

Plus she is learning how cute spiders are!
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Sure she can take care of herself, that doesn't mean we should straight up not hang out with her at all because she's not on fire. I'm just proposing having a little catching up and a little fun/relaxation.

You know, like friends do.
 
Codex said:
And also because we like our friends. Suyin didn't really provide much when we were comforting her after her traumatic injury, but we still spent time with her to help her recover.

I am however quickly losing hope that people actually care about her when she's not in immediate peril...
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One reason I was worried about spending actions on her was that it looked like she was becoming too dependent on us. That looks like it's changing, but unfortunately she's still got an unhealthy mindset. I'm not really sure what to do about that. It doesn't help that there's all the other people I want Ling Qi to interact with that Suyin's competing with.
 
The Meddler said:
One reason I was worried about spending actions on her was that it looked like she was becoming too dependent on us. That looks like it's changing, but unfortunately she's still got an unhealthy mindset. I'm not really sure what to do about that. It doesn't help that there's all the other people I want Ling Qi to interact with that Suyin's competing with.
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Meh, she was never becoming too dependent on us. She had been showing herself as extremely independent from the get go, so that complaint has always rang hollow to me.

She was vulnerable, and she still is, but that's very different from being dependent. She has always been good about getting what she wants with or without Ling Qi.
 
On another note, do people celebrate their birthdays, or note when they are?

I am wondering when our friends birthdays are. Or Ling Qi's, for that matter.
 
Motile Mollusc said:
I was actually under the impression that being controlled by a shadowy cabal of min-maxers had ended up with Ling Qi being noticeably more training focused than normal cultivators. Sure, we do also socialise, but we work obsessively towards more and more power and growth.
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I've been wondering if Ling Qi's secret power is an amazingly accurate sense of her own enlightenment, allowing her to mentally estimate and quantize the the effects of various types of training and medicine
 
Arkeus said:
Meh, she was never becoming too dependent on us. She had been showing herself as extremely independent from the get go, so that complaint has always rang hollow to me.

She was vulnerable, and she still is, but that's very different from being dependent. She has always been good about getting what she wants with or without Ling Qi.
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Hmm, debatable whether she was never becoming too dependent on us. Ling Qi stopped her giving up on the sect and doing, "something foolish" after she was attacked. That's not the sort of healthy independence you'd wish for those you care about.

yrsillar said:
Li Suyin would always be grateful to Ling Qi for helping her get through those early days, when the urge to do something foolish and short sighted had been nearly overwhelming.
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I really do want to do something for her mindset though. Not so arrogant as to think we can make all her issues go away but I'd like to help. She has far too low a sense of self worth which just warps how she sees relationships. She sees her friends as better than her, and receiving much more in her relationships than she gives. It's made me slightly less inclined to offer more in terms of arts, to be honest. Officially making her our second/minion could help, she'd have something solid to hold onto as proof of value but it's still not the healthiest method. Really, I'd just like to see her more, maybe we could go to a formations lesson with her when she has time?

yrsillar said:
With a few exceptions, they were not sneered at, or pushed around or insulted at all in the process of selecting a home.

Li Suyin knew it was because of Ling Qi, she certainly hadn't accomplished anything worth respect.
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yrsillar said:
Senior Sister Bao understood as well she thought, Li Suyin thought it odd that the older girl had seemed to take a shine to her.
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yrsillar said:
She would always be grateful to Ling Qi, who had helped her so very much… but she felt unworthy of her. Ling Qi had started from a much worse position than her, and she still strove to be better, unlike herself. Su Ling was the same, they were both good people in the way that she now knew she wasn't.
That did not mean she couldn't pay her friends back. She might be a petty, vengeful, deceitful girl, but she could still be of use to them because of that.
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Grigori said:
Hmm, debatable whether she was never becoming too dependent on us. Ling Qi stopped her giving up on the sect and doing, "something foolish" after she was attacked. That's not the sort of healthy independence you'd wish for those you care about.
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Not healthy, no. She was vulnerable. But we stopped her from acting on her independence, we didn't stop her from being dependent. I think there is a key difference there, as she always did her own thing, she was just vulnerable on what that thing would be.
 
Well, we can both agree that Su Ling is a better person than us?

Maybe we should get into fights more so Suyin can patch us up?

Oh Suyin... We can be totally vengeful. It just hasn't really come up because we've never actually lost anything.

We want to be careful though. Trying to make her feel better by revealing our shadiness might be a bad idea. Her ideals aren't bad. We don't want to tear them down. Having her flip the other way and go full nihilistic edgelord probably isn't what we want.
 
Erebeal said:
Oh Suyin... We can be totally vengeful. It just hasn't really come up because we've never actually lost anything.
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Well, not so sure about that. We haven't really pursued the puppet issue, for one.

As far as i see, Ling Qi idea of revenge is a purely pragmatic, beat people that mess with her so that they don't mess with her anymore.
 
Erebeal said:
Oh Suyin... We can be totally vengeful. It just hasn't really come up because we've never actually lost anything.
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Please. Ling Qi keeps a list of everyone that has looked at her the wrong way in the sect, and jumped at the chance to humiliate and then capture Kang Zihao.

She doesn't need to have lost anything to be petty and vengeful.
 
Arkeus said:
Not healthy, no. She was vulnerable. But we stopped her from acting on her independence, we didn't stop her from being dependent. I think there is a key difference there, as she always did her own thing, she was just vulnerable on what that thing would be.
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We stopped her from acting on her independence by preventing her doing what she was doing but what was the bit about being dependent, weren't you saying she wasn't dependent? Unless you just mean she was never dependent on us in which case I'd say that requiring someone's presence to avoid self-destructive behaviour is being dependent on them.

Erebeal said:
We want to be careful though. Trying to make her feel better by revealing our shadiness might be a bad idea. Her ideals aren't bad. We don't want to tear them down. Having her flip the other way and go full nihilistic edgelord probably isn't what we want.
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Well... I actually wouldn't mind seeing her go full mad scientist/amoral spiderlady. She seems to be getting there with her warped reaction to her own injuries and how comfortable she is around spiders and guts. She just needs to be desensitised to other's pain.
 
Broken25 said:
Well, not so sure about that. We haven't really pursued the puppet issue, for one.

As far as i see, Ling Qi idea of revenge is a purely pragmatic, beat people that mess with her so that they don't mess with her anymore.
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Sure, we are very pragmatic. But again, we haven't really lost anything yet. The puppet could have potentially been bad for us, but we stopped it, so it wasn't.

If someone had done to us what happened to Suyin we would be pissed.
 
Grigori said:
We stopped her from acting on her independence by preventing her doing what she was doing but what was the bit about being dependent, weren't you saying she wasn't dependent? Unless you just mean she was never dependent on us in which case I'd say that requiring someone's presence to avoid self-destructive behaviour is being dependent on them.
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Ah, I simply disagree on the behaviour we prevented was self-destructive, nor that getting helped to change your mind about doing something is dependence.
Erebeal said:
Sure, we are very pragmatic. But again, we haven't really lost anything yet. The puppet could have potentially been bad for us, but we stopped it, so it wasn't.

If someone had done to us what happened to Suyin we would be pissed.
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We have been pissed without anything happening. Again, Ling Qi explicitly keeps a list of people she wants to get revenge on.
 
Motile Mollusc said:
I was actually under the impression that being controlled by a shadowy cabal of min-maxers had ended up with Ling Qi being noticeably more training focused than normal cultivators. Sure, we do also socialise, but we work obsessively towards more and more power and growth.
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You know what would be funny ?
An enemy uses some kind of mind reading/control art on Ling Qi, and all he gets is being overwhelm with forum quotes. Partial forum quotes from different arguments mixed together.He's quickly reduced to a mind broken training-obcessed musk of a man mumbling about not having enough time, or the benefits of an elixir over an other pill and the implications when a vent is added. And rolls... always rolls.
A couple days afterwards there's a new rumor going around: "You don't fuck with Qi Ling's mind, not if you value your own".
 
There is something amusing about Li Suyin trying to adopt a pet spider contrasting with Su Ling decision to become a hero for the little guys, your friendly neighborhood Fox-Woman.
 
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Prospalz said:
Ah, the revelatioms of [/COLOR][/font][/font][/FONT][/B][/SIZE].

Truly profound mystery.
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It truly is. Ok, trying to make it a better formatting for this discord stuff. Hopefully this will work now:
Arkeus-Hier à 17:37
Su Ling watched her for a second, then sighed. "The three layer alarm I think, we can probably get that done in a couple hours. "We'll have to add ventilating ones to this room too though, if we're going to use it." <= If WE are going to use it @Yrsillar ? Suyin's making drugs?
Yrsillar-Hier à 17:38

they both are, yeah though Su Ling does most of the actual crafting
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Arkeus-Hier à 17:41
Oh right
I wanted to ask
Han Jian training not being available is on purpose?
Yrsillar-Hier à 17:42

yeah, since Xiulan went into closed door again
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Codex-Hier à 17:47
@Yrsillar now that the event's over, mind telling us what was in the ship trial?
Yrsillar-Hier à 17:50
If you had taken it first, it would have been about guiding a ship through enemy waters to safety, if you had taken it second, it would have involved being under concerted attack and having to keep the ship afloat for x time
Codex-Hier à 17:50
White Owl?
Yrsillar-Hier à 17:52

investigating and tracking a target, followed by actually bringing them in or dealing with a rebellious house while trapped in their territory
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Yrsillar-Hier à 18:18

I will not confirm that certain high end Bai techniques allow orochimaru style self renewal
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Wooh, finally caught up on this one. Man was I surprised when I heard that you had a quest on SV as well and one of such an interesting genre I haven't heard of before.

Gotta say, I'm kind of sad that every single one of our friends seem to be in situations that make them distance themselves from us. It all started when you made us step on the snek's feelings and went worse from there on. D:

Would somebody be so nice as to give me the discord link?
 
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