*shurgs* I'm assuming that because it was presented as a voting option, we have some chance of helping stop her. We don't need to engage her personally, we just need to have our mist cover her flowers.
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
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- Vicksburg, MS
[X] She has outright said that she is here to stall you. Escape and join back up with as many of your friends as you can manage. Even if it means dealing with her two lackeys too.
We have the armband we wear on for a reason. Let's put all that stealth and mobility we picked up on to use and see what's wrong.
We have the armband we wear on for a reason. Let's put all that stealth and mobility we picked up on to use and see what's wrong.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
We have agreed to keep the peace in the outer sect in exchange for stones every weeks, as well as having minions and some other advantages.
Anyway, rereading the update a few things strike at me that I had either missed or not talked about.
First, Chu Song is Mountain and Thunder. Those are somewhat opposing element, but what it means is that she should have some sudden explosive power and speed, but not long lasting. However, she should have some incredibly tankiness.
Second, I think I had misread what Chu Song said: she didn't quite say that she will stop us by talking, but rather that she will stop and and talk to us. I already suspected that she was hidden to make sure we weren't leaving, and then planning to talk to us when it was too late, but it appears that we might have a bit of time before things begin. I think that just means running away quickly is even better though, as it means getting to friends before they are in danger, and not in the middle of a battle.
Third, she got angry when the idea we were loyal to Cai came to her (talking dangerously), and she immediately painted it in the worse terms she could probably come up, with 'playing a loyal dog'. She very likely really has some enmity with Cai.
Fourth, the fight option has Ling Qi thinking 'Winning would put her out of commission for the day'. As in, Ling Qi thinks there is a real chance Chu Song would be a pain for the rest of the day if she doesn't take care of her. There is possibly a bigger chance than I thought of Chu Song attacking our friends to stop us, or something like this.
Fifth, While Ling Qi is worried talking to her means Chu Song can stall us, she is also wary of having possibly being lied about Sun Liling. I don't think her lying about it means we should change our plans, but this and Ling Qi having caught Chu Song before Chu Song wanted to be caught means that we probably can talk a couple minutes before having to run away.
So, here is what I think upon re-reading:
Fighting give us a long shot of taking care of Chu Song before the ruckus starts, but we won't be able to get to our friends before they have begun fighting.
Running now means using resources before the ruckus, but it might mean getting to our friends before it begin.
Talking means we will either have to fight or escape or 'something else' later to get away, but it means having a more solid understanding of what to do then. However, this come at the cost of being with our friends before the ruckus begin, or even it being well underway if we have to fight her to get away.
So yeah, upon further thought while Ling Qi thins the girl is trying to stall us, having caught her early means there is a decent chance of having a bit of breathing room before the event happens. So this vote might be more about how to use that breathing room (taking out an opponent, getting to our friends before they are ganged upon, getting more information). Or I am completely off.
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I don't really like the idea of potentially embarassing an influential Third Grade, but I made all my points with my gigantic post last night, and I have to get ready for worku again.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
How is doing the one thing they know we are inclined to do and had days to weeks to prepare to stop us from being able to do the smart thing? It's the impulsive short sighted thing most likely to get us utterly rolled.
Thanatanos
PvP Lover, Assasin Player
[X] She wants to talk, then she can talk. You'll listen and plan.
- Location
- Cyberspace
Actually... Ling Qi *isn't* known to be inclined to flee. She's fled:
1. The wolves during the Moon Fill mission.
2. The swarm of spirits during the Investigation mission.
3. Way back when, took the pass in Zhou's test.
4. Fled from the alerted spiders in the Spiderweb mission.
Meanwhile, she's fought 2 vs 3, 2 vs 8+, *initiated* Thunderdome Redux with a strong statement and an arrow and has been going around with a battle-buddy and challenging people and beating them in combat. As far as the sect disciples are concerned? She doesn't exhibit a tendency to flee. Hell, she was taken down by Sun Liling herself in Thunderdome Redux... from the front.
EDIT: Eh, I'm wavering enough to want more information. The more I think about it, the more I feel that Meizhen is probably off with Cui and is thus out of the way - and Gu Xiulan has a decent chance of likewise not being wrapped up... at least not immediately.
And seeing as Ling Qi was talking to people beforehand how she's focusing on cultivation and the early noticing of Chu Song suggests she's got a bit of time. And more information would help her know what she needs to do.
[X] She wants to talk, then she can talk. You'll listen and plan.
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- Location
- Red Blood on Golden Shield
Since Bai isn't in danger I don't worry that much anymore about what happens, I wouldn't mind changing my vote to wait and talk.
But not sure if I should...
But not sure if I should...
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Gu Xiulan has made herself hated by the Sun Liling faction, what with personally going after them and then challenging people all the time and going after Kang Zihao. While Sun Liling herself will probably not move to attack her personally, people are almost certainly going to go after her.
I think that being there with your friends when shit hit the fan is much better than gaining a bit of information. Information is useless if what you learn is your friends are being shot right now, after all.
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Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
- Location
- Somewhere in the corners of my imagination
I believe you are overly pessimistic in our ability to escape, as well as the consequences of failure to escape, and I consider this the smart thing because our opponent does not want us to do it. Foiling opponents' intentions for you is generally a good idea.
Seriously, I just said I'm relatively fine with talking winning, I don't get why you have to be so negative over my post. You don't like fleeing winning, fine, but you could be less angry and insulting over it. Implying half the thread is "impulsive and shortsighted" isn't exactly going to help your case.
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- Location
- USA
[X] She wants to talk, then she can talk. You'll listen and plan.
What's the grinning moon? It's, amoung other things, trickery. We shouldn't just try to run off immediately. We should plan and find the right time to pull something off. Of course we should listen in the meantime.
What's the grinning moon? It's, amoung other things, trickery. We shouldn't just try to run off immediately. We should plan and find the right time to pull something off. Of course we should listen in the meantime.
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TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Let me rephrase my position. If we can get away from Song, then she's such a weaking idiot that Cai's inablity to get Ji Rong is unforgivable and we shouldn't continue to support her. Song has -
a. Know about this conflict well in advance. Has actually prepared for it - she at least bought stealth talismans. That means she's had time to rejuggle her Meridians so her slotted arts are the right ones to deal with us. And if she's bought one talisman she can easily have bought more. We also don't know her flunkies specialties. Have they already locked the area down with formations? Are they pursuit specialists?
b. Knows we're likely to try and run. We know this because she specifically called it out as something she was prepared for. So beyond her being ready for us in general, she'll be ready for that move in particular.
So basically, if we can succeed here, Lady Cai has no excuse for not simply rolling over Song on her way to Ji Rong. We don't want to keep tying ourselves to someone that weak.
As for consequences... yes, they should be worse. She's given us two 'dignified' avenues to take. Both waiting, which is understandable because she's a realm higher, or an honorable duel where she takes handicaps. If we scorn her generosity and the respect she's shown us, we have no one to blame but ourselves for the harsh lessons that follow.
Those are the very lessons Thunderdome is designed to teach, after all. To treat those stronger then you with fear and respect.
Also, just in general, we've seen what impulsive rash behavior got us when we can take a single update to get a better late of the land in the Investigations mission. We missed out on plot coupons to deal with the spirits, which meant that when the totem curse went off, it was a lot worse than it had to be if we'd dealt with the spirits first whether through diplomacy or battle. Having a better idea of what's going on or where to go even is worthwhile.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
We actually have pretty good social attributes and skills. It's just that without techniques or auto-successes, it's pretty swingy.
- Location
- The Void
[X] She wants to talk, then she can talk. You'll listen and plan.
This gal came prepared for if we tried to run. I'm going to have some faith in Cai and her contingencies against Sun for the moment and vote for getting more info.
Heck, the option itself says we'll be planning, so it's not like we are being totally passive. If we need to bail, we'll bail.
This gal came prepared for if we tried to run. I'm going to have some faith in Cai and her contingencies against Sun for the moment and vote for getting more info.
Heck, the option itself says we'll be planning, so it's not like we are being totally passive. If we need to bail, we'll bail.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
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