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Anna would honestly be able to help now. After all soloing a Breach is insane and she did it after taking on a type zero within the same day, if not hour.
Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)
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Timeline. Anything to add, suggest, will add.
We are essentially member 319 (318?) of the 300. Our frame has comprable combat capabilities (probably), we have superior technique, and we are the single most valuable Valk against a type zero. In the face of an AG push sufficient to endanger the ~status quo, we would probably see immediate deployment.
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Like we need any training to do that. Anna is a strategic asset on par with a Type Zero. Committing her as she is can probably change the course of any battle. Committing her in a flight of the 300 probably upgrades the class of TZ they can take on by a full letter grade.
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Potentially more depending on how Wave can be worked into group tactics. A "fire wave, pull Anna back to safety while 300 covers her, repeat" setup could be ridiculously effective.
This is why this quest is so incredibly popular. The character's personality is 9001% endearing and the Dakka level is approximated by the expression 9001!
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That would also have several high end Class Zeros on us, 7 type A's would stop us cold, hell 4 of those on a battle field would probably require a full on flee.
The question to me is, if concentrating the TZs would be an auto-win, why haven't they done it? And if the UN expects eventual victory even though the number of TZs is growing while the number of 300 is static, then the answer seems to be that the full 300 can take on both the current and the projected concentration of TZs up to the point in time where the UN expects to win.
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Humanity cannot gather enough force to push at this time, without weakening the other fronts to the point were area would be lost.
Why the Antags don't do this is probably for the same reason. However
.We don't know enough about them to know why they do what they do.
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All information we've seen indicates the AGs do not concentrate firepower to that degree. When FOB Guerra was hit by 2 B's and an A, the UN fucking went home. There probably aren't 7 A's in existence, if there were, with the 40-1 ratio we'd be super fucked between them and everything else. A much more likely scenario would see A Marduk sallying out of Denver Major with B Raksha and C Aeon as support and us being part of the suppression force.
Or that most TZ are E-D rank, which just aren't threatening on the scale of a C- or B-class, let alone an A-class. It jibes with the info we've seen, I think: Sekhmet, Raksha, Aeon and Marduk are the TZs named... In the entire Alaskan offensive. Probably just less attention paid to the other TZs involved, i doubt only those 4 were active in that big a battle.
It's worth noting that if one super-skilled non-Anna valk without a 300 core can solo a class E, then probably a squadron of OK valks can also fuck up a class E quite nicely. But for, say, class A, throwing regular valks at that would just be mass suicide.
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Theirs been 5 named one's that we know of and 1 of those is dead.
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And A's are more likely to be named than lower ranks. If there were another two, I think we would know about them, tbh.
Aioria
The Gold-fanged Lion
I phrased that badly. Let me try again.
Would an Anna with high Target Rich Environment help more than she could with a high Wave Force level?
Asking because I think it will take a while before the UN can benefit from and work on our paper for it. And because I fear that if Anna uses WF even once the AGs will find out about her and try to figure out countermeasures.
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One class-A would be enough. Indra killed at least 148 valkyries (12 of whom had 300 frames) before being dealt with. All in one battle (or at least within a short enough period of time that they had a shared funeral). The required force to green-light an attack on one of those nasties is a 40-to-1 ratio with 300 frames. Barring Plot protection I'd expect any fight against a Class-A Type Zero to start with the Zero one-shotting half a dozen Aces before it starts taking damage.
Wave Force would be helpful there, better to make it burn Higgs and Impeller defending. Even if it leaves the user without Impeller they're in only a little more danger than fighting a Class-A already entails.
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No. The fact of the matter is, if any one valk could improve VS tz or VS regular AGs, command would want the tz. We have fucking legions of people to help kill regular AGs. Legions of drones, tanks, nukes... But tz's, that's VALK business.
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I highly doubt that almost all of the type 0 A's were in north America during the Alaskan offensive, in fact for every Major breach probably has a single Type Zero A sitting on it. relooks at map.
Assuming that A major Breach in America was token down, there should be currently 6 Type Zero A's with a possible 7th at this time.
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I highly doubt that almost all of the type 0 A's were in north America during the Alaskan offensive, in fact for every Major breach probably has a single Type Zero A sitting on it. relooks at map.
Assuming that A major Breach in America was token down, there should be currently 6 Type Zero A's with a possible 7th at this time.
No Major has ever fallen. I disagree with the 1-1 assumption on the basis that it would be totally unnecessary -- the interior majors are unassailable with or without a class A.
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Hmm it might be that it takes a major to produce/maintain a type 0 A?
Aioria
The Gold-fanged Lion
Okay, fair enough.
Though that makes me Wonder how many Tzs are in Africa. Something to ask Avalanche later I guess.
I need to sleep now though. It's late.
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Well there is 6 type zeros currently being produced a year, so assuming that its never been less then that their should be about 70-80 type Zero's in total, but theirs probably more. And if about a third of the type zero's were in Africa it be 20-30 of them.
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Assuming there was no type Zero's lost.
Aioria
The Gold-fanged Lion
Avalanche Said earlier that there have been several Tzs deaths though.
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To the extent of our knowledge minors do not produce 0s at all.
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Hmm if an Major makes Type Zero's and the war been going on about 13 years. Then so far there has been 78 type Zeros made, the forming of an 7th Major would bring it up to 7 being made a year. Which is an increase of 16-17% production. Which would suck for humanity.
If you're worried about it being an arms race, which is actually pretty fair, then we can keep ahead by keeping developing Wave Force further. Everything we've seen indicates that the WF is a skill tree, at least, we have two new types (Red Wave and Blue Wave) to develop right now, and you can bet that beyond those there'll at the very least be a combined Red+Blue Wave.
The thing about Target Rich Environment as a method for developing strength is we can always be overwhelmed. The counters already exist - more numbers, or stronger enemies. Meanwhile there is no counter for Class A TZ that the Antagonists will allow the UN to actually deploy (in theory enough 300, but in practice the AG know that and will withdraw before enough can be mustered). The end-goal of our WF project, where we can teach a much-improved version to other Valks, represents the end of the idea that high-tier TZ are invincible so long as they are deployed away from concentrations of the 300. And only we understand the Valk-level WF right now.
There are strategic reasons why the UN turned WF study into multiple top-secret projects, after all.
Been noted IC already back when we visited the instructor's lounge.
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Tz production only since 61 I believe. Hold thought.
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No I though they weren't classified as Type Zero's until that point.
