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Im sorry why are we talking to these people again?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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We're poking at them to make sure they won't go insane and start revolts. And also to investigate if their god is a god we'd go to war against. I'm thinking we just leave future investigations to the Inquisition once Malarys has that established.
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We're aiming for Divine Rank 0. Benefit of immortality, and none of the restrictions of actual divinity.
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Not-quite-gods can grant spellls.
At least if it's a Dragon: Servant of a Dragon Ascendant – Feat – D&D Tools
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Agreed. @Azel, this is a good place to fish for intel.
EDIT: Never mind. I'm just happy we ask about that weird dude crowned by stars.
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I haven't been around for the vote (summer sleeping in is great!) but I do appreciate @Azel 's attempts to figure out which gods are acceptable and which ones might as well be abyss spawn.
Gods are extremely useful, both in how they can change the habits of their followers and in the boons they can grant.
Gods are extremely useful, both in how they can change the habits of their followers and in the boons they can grant.
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@Artemis1992, @Goldfish, I've got a question. So way back in Mantarys, if we had Yss close the Whispering Gate then Amrelath would have escaped.
Also, interesting quote I found while hunting:
That's quite a bit lower than I thought. Most of us had been guessing level 12 or 13 for Selmy.
But how? Dracoliches need a draconic body to possess (or at minimum something suitably reptilian), and as far as we could tell there was nothing of the sort in Mantarys. Is this GM handwave? Because from the sounds of the quote, we would have been up against a fully formed dracolich, not a middling one which just recently possessed a corpse and was still forming.
Also, interesting quote I found while hunting:
That's quite a bit lower than I thought. Most of us had been guessing level 12 or 13 for Selmy.
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I asked DP, got no answer. I guess there might be some sort of mechanism, or Amy would have possessed a lizard-like demon or something like that.
Unrelated to that, why are we even here in the temple?
Shouldn't petitioners who wish to continue practicing their religion come to us and ask for audience?
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Selmy was also going around shanking Level 5-6 dudes at most with 6 being noted as the "aberrant case" threshold of what normals who are so stubborn as to train at something like a dog with a bone, not inherent talent or destiny forming around them as the fulcrum to PC-dom.
A Level 9-10 going up against that in most cases could probably do Antonio Banderas level bullshit with ease, yes, especially since NPCs in general wouldn't even have good classes. (Warrior, Rogue, with the most challenging thing he'd encounter having been Fighter).
A Level 9-10 going up against that in most cases could probably do Antonio Banderas level bullshit with ease, yes, especially since NPCs in general wouldn't even have good classes. (Warrior, Rogue, with the most challenging thing he'd encounter having been Fighter).
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I think this was important enough that we couldnt wait to set up an official meeting, if they are demons worshippers we need to know now.
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Do people in dnd lose levels as they age? he could be higher level now even if his stats are no longer that good.
While you are feasting and whoring, Selmy is training.
While you try to maneuver the complicated politics of the realm, Selmy is training.
While you are busy fucking your own sister, Selmy is training.
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I was thinking there's some dragon corpse/skeleton hidden away somewhere in either Mantarys or worked into the walls of the Shadow Tower. Well... probably not inside the Shadow Tower given that when we gave him a body he had to ask us for the Velroc corpse instead of just going "I hope you don't mind me wrecking your demiplane for this".
We should probably ask him about that -- if there's any dragon corpses in Mantarys. If there are I'd like to negotiate with the Archons for that. We could do quite a bit with some proper dragonbones.
Part MMI: Seeking Perfection
Seeking Perfection
Twenty-Seventh Day of the Second Month 293 AC
"What precisely is this enlightenment you seek, and how does one achieve it?" you ask, rather than pressing on the matter of the temple guard for the moment at least. You could make use of more trained warriors for certain, but not ones who serve another master of their own will.
"Do you ask that you may join us?" the priest asks after a moment.
For a moment the question leaves you without answer simply because of how utterly impossible that would be. Even among those gods you know and appreciate you could not give honest devotion, your interactions with them more in the way of barter than worship... which come to think of it might be the root of said appreciation. "No, I merely ask with the eye of a lord who would know his people and their ways," you say at least.
"Unfortunate," the priest sighs faintly. "For one who so easily transmutes himself being lost along the tangles in the path it is all too easy. To answer your question, one who would seek enlightenment must search within themselves for the seed of hallowed flame embedded in their souls and nurture it until they reach an ideal, be it of craftsmanship or artistry, study or action, rule or servitude. When one achieves that in this life it is possible to advance to the next rung of understanding."
"So the slave must accept his place in this life that he may be a master in the next?" You find yourself distinctly unimpressed, though you can easily understand why the magisters would encourage this worship, as opposed to say that of the Red God. There is no fellowship of all men to be found here, not even in chains.
"Or perhaps those who were once masters must learn to be slaves. It is not my place to guess at the order in which souls are tested," comes the reply. "It is, however, clear from the arrangement of this world that the lessons of servitude are harder to learn than those of dominion."
Humility, or simply an attempt to save face? you wonder, still finding it nigh impossible to read the figure swathed in black. "Why a faceless figure crowned in starlight?"
"Because it could be any, or indeed all of us, and there are some limits to an artist's craft, after all... in this world at least."
"Is there another, then?" you guess. "I had thought that souls were perfected by passing again and again through the first head and the last?"
"Indeed, for those judged worthy there is choice to become deathless spirits at the side of the god, perfect in their purpose as flesh and blood can never hope to be. It seems strange to me that you would not know this, for do not such spirits fly in the skies of Tyrosh even now? Did they not aid you in your conquest?"
That is not a wholly inexact understanding of the fate of mortal souls, you realize with a start, besides of course the fact that not all souls are perfected, unless one counts perfection of malice and sin from which fiends are begotten. "What is your relationship with other faiths in the city?" you once more change the subject, leaving the murky waters of theology behind for the moment.
"We disagree over the truths of the world and the nature of the divine, but no blood is shed between us and it has not been for many years..." The smallest hesitation follows. "Not since the Century of Blood when all the world went mad and frenzied self-proclaimed prophets wandered the earth proclaiming the cracking of the skies and the sundering of the earth has such a thing been seen."
"What then are the three head priests deliberating? From what I gather, your faith is centered on the one alone faced with his faith, not many gathered together. So what does the man upon the throne matter to you unless he seeks to destroy these halls?"
"It is a time of miracles we live in, some wondrous, some dreadful. Is it any wonder for priests to seek understanding in prayer, study, and discussion?" he answers your question with one of his own.
What do you do next?
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OOC: Don't take Viserys thinking of the figure as male to be an indication that he guessed that it is so. It's just that Viserys himself is male so he defaulted to that simply because gendered pronouns are more natural to use than "it," and Viserys himself is male so he defaults to that in uncertain cases.
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That's a rather clear deflection.
Daemonic rites vibe intensifies...
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On the bright side, letting them finish their fiendish ritual gives us a nice fight.
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@Artemis1992 One can assume that when a faction actually thinks an appeal would work, and that they have something to gain from it, then a petitioner would approach Viserys in his turf and thus put themselves in his power. This is just me speaking from a realpolitik angle as ASoIAF tries to do a lot when it comes to interacting with those with power (and noting explicitly the imbalance between different people).
It's exaggerated here because one could and probably would liken Viserys to someone with near-absolute power, with no one the check him, so it is hard to willingly cede initiative like that, or in this case, go on the offense against a figurative mountain. It'd be like fighting the tide.
Better to flow with it when it comes to crash upon you.
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I realize I'm probably playing Azel's advocate here, but I mean... it's possible that we're not dealing with someone who's some kind of social savant like we are.
Or rather, as unlikely as it is that they're not up to something bad, how much more likely is it that he's a social savant on par with Viserys, who's even more bullshit for the fact that he's specced to social? That it is one of Viserys specialties, with firepower and stamina/versatility trailing behind?
It's exaggerated here because one could and probably would liken Viserys to someone with near-absolute power, with no one the check him, so it is hard to willingly cede initiative like that, or in this case, go on the offense against a figurative mountain. It'd be like fighting the tide.
Better to flow with it when it comes to crash upon you.
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I realize I'm probably playing Azel's advocate here, but I mean... it's possible that we're not dealing with someone who's some kind of social savant like we are.
Or rather, as unlikely as it is that they're not up to something bad, how much more likely is it that he's a social savant on par with Viserys, who's even more bullshit for the fact that he's specced to social? That it is one of Viserys specialties, with firepower and stamina/versatility trailing behind?
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Daemonic Buddhism! Ascetisism and oblivion mixed together into stopping suffering by murderblending existence