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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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@Goldfish thoughts on the following?

Cloak of Kyber has a spell level of 3 and is a Pathfinder spell.

The Devil Book of Oberyn Themed Knowledge includes all Pathfinder spells of SL 6 and lower.

With some new spell learning, are we now about to upgrade our Greater Ribbons of Disguise to Greaterer Ribbons of Disguise? Perfect Ribbons of Disguise would include Mind Blank or Mislead of course.

As a spell with a duration of days it should get a 50% crafting discount iirc.
 
Walliseatscheese said:
@Goldfish thoughts on the following?

Cloak of Kyber has a spell level of 3 and is a Pathfinder spell.

The Devil Book of Oberyn Themed Knowledge includes all Pathfinder spells of SL 6 and lower.

With some new spell learning, are we now about to upgrade our Greater Ribbons of Disguise to Greaterer Ribbons of Disguise? Perfect Ribbons of Disguise would include Mind Blank or Mislead of course.

As a spell with a duration of days it should get a 50% crafting discount iirc.
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It's actually a D&D 3.5 spell from the Eberron setting that showed up in a Dragon Magazine at some point, but we've already got access to it through Viserys if we can't find it elsewhere.

Such ribbons would be much more expensive.

(3 x 5) x 2000 / 2 = 15,000 + (100 x 50; component requirements) = 20,000 gp / 10 = 2,000 IM

Greater Ribbons of Disguise costs 800 IM. Best case scenario and DP let's us just pay 400 IM for the multi-effect tax, to add the Cloak of Khyber effect to create a Perfect Ribbon of Disguise would cost us 3,200 IM each.

At four times the cost of a Greater Ribbon of Disguise, I can see us producing a few of them, but not doing so in great quantities.
 
Goldfish said:
Greater Ribbons of Disguise costs 800 IM. Best case scenario and DP let's us just pay 400 IM for the multi-effect tax, to add the Cloak of Khyber effect to create a Perfect Ribbon of Disguise would cost us 3,200 IM each.
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Multi-effect tax is always the cheapest effect, and some of the tax should already be paid due to GRoD already being a multi-effect item.
 
Snowfire said:
Please note: Cats have Wisdom 12. Balerion has Wisdom 16.

The argument could be made that he's probably got more common sense than most of Westeros' nobility.
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It's neat how many animal-intelligence creatures have sometimes huge WIS scores. That's literal animal cunning

Anyway, his Claw attacks should suffer -5 as he doesn't have Multiattack. Which I recommend he gets.

I'd like to finagle it into assassin for the Death Attack.
Goldfish said:
Feral Dragons lose SR.
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Well DP clarified it, but I was under the impression this was already pointed out and rectified a long time ago.

I'd still recommend Awaken SR anyway.
 
Azel said:
And the rebuild builds
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I much prefer the Crusader builds.

As neatly exemplified by PF Smite, PF likes big numbers and can not lie.

Crusader is also much closer to what Ser Richard knows.

So I'd leave eventual PF martial initiators to extra-spechu snowflakes.

Aka, PF initiators are cheesy as shit and we have no real explanation for mass producing them when your main instructor doesn't actually know those disciplines,
 
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Walliseatscheese said:
Multi-effect tax is always the cheapest effect, and some of the tax should already be paid due to GRoD already being a multi-effect item.
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The Greater Ribbons of Disguise are already much cheaper than they should be. DP was very generous to price it at only 800 IM.

Continuous Alter Self alone should cost 1800 IM.

I don't mind one bit paying a full 400 additional IM in multi-effect tax in this case.
Walliseatscheese said:
Gold to IM is divide by 5 I thought? So it should be 4k IM.
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Divide by 10 for item creation costs. Retail price, if we weren't doing the enchanting ourselves, would be dividing by five.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
You mean 10 rounds a day?

Also, seriously, not Praetorian. Enough faux Latin.
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I don't mind Praetorian, but I'm not attached to it, either. If y'all come up with something different, that would be fine, too.

And no, DP let us use the enchantment basically at will. It's cheesy, and technically abuseable, but Richard has had it for months now and only used it on screen maybe once.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
No, @Azel is correct. IF wielded as a 1-handed martial weapon, then bastard swords get the damage multiplier from Power Attack because they are a 2-handed martial weapon. But if you use them as a trained exotic weapon in one hand, it doesn't work.
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No? What the fuck?

You have to wield it with two hands to get two-handed PA benefits.

Crake said:
Can we harden Valyrian Steel?

TFW dropping your sword accidentally carves through several decks of reinforced steel before being caught on the admantine plating.
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I thought it had a limit to magic things, as fabricate does... But apparently not, so we totally can.
 
Goldfish said:
I don't mind Praetorian, but I'm not attached to it, either. If y'all come up with something different, that would be fine, too.

And no, DP let us use the enchantment basically at will. It's cheesy, and technically abuseable, but Richard has had it for months now and only used it on screen maybe once.
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"At will Enlarge Person" is a neighbor to "Constant Mage Armor" and his cousin, "Constant Shield".

If he's only used it once, it can be made proper with 10 rounds per day.
 
Looking forward to the Robert interlude. Just his thoughts of our military and how to counter it. Obviously Robert hate Viserys but will he know how dangerous Viserys is?
 
Right, when the name voting comes Praetorian have my unconditional vote. More pseudo-latin please.

Also kingsguard is a shitty name that shouldn't have been created in the first place.
 
egoo said:
fuck no.

I'll take fake Latin any day over clinging to Westerosi shit.
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That attitude pisses me off. We have almost no connection to the Iron Throne's continuity as it is, and any efforts to reference it or use parts of its history are attacked by the 'oh everything Westerosi is shit' crowd. It's quite frankly obnoxious.
 
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Well, technically, "I want our realm to have as few connections to what was before us, as to enforce our sensibilities and make the reforms slightly easier on us via stupid people having less to cling to" is a stronger argument than "I think this name is shit, period", so I choose to use that.

Sorry, for what's its worth.
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I'm not a fan of Kingsguard because we don't need a guard. I'd be fine with names other than Praetorian, but this one not so much.
 
egoo said:
"I want our realm to have as few connections to what was before us, as to enforce our sensibilities and make the reforms slightly easier on us via stupid people having less to cling to"
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You could also argue that having clear connections to the Iron Throne would increase our legitimacy instead of having westerosi view us as a completely foreign conqueror upending their entire culture and way of life would decrease resistance to our reforms.
Duesal said:
I'm not a fan of Kingsguard because we don't need a guard. I'd be fine with names other than Praetorian, but this one not so much.
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I don't get why people hyperfocus on the 'guard' part. The actual Kingsguard was so much more than that, and in the end, we're only taking the name and aesthetic. What the new Kingsguard ends up doing can be completely different than the old one, but what's been proposed isn't actually that divergent, just the original concept greatly expanded in scope.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
I don't get why people hyperfocus on the 'guard' part. The actual Kingsguard was so much more than that, and in the end, we're only taking the name and aesthetic. What the new Kingsguard ends up doing can be completely different than the old one, but what's been proposed isn't actually that divergent, just the original concept greatly expanded in scope.
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It also comes down to personal preference on my part. I'd prefer anything other than Kingsguard.
 
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