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A Different Breed (Warhammer 29K)

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Heavygenium said:
If the leader of the Burning Grove is Cegorach, then he was praying to himself right there.

...which honestly sounds like something he'd do.
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It certainly sells the deception.

K von Carstein said:
It's strange the Eldars had to steal a human superweapon. Didn't the Dominion also have such toys?
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Sure. But like a lot of dominion tech they were blessing augmented or excessively dependent on levels of Psyker Aeldari can't quite command anymore. Anything else is something from their past that was probably defused and made safe for war in heaven museums. Also some things actively started turning into Daemons and needed to be dismantled.
Profilozof said:
Yes, I think that he was the harlequin who claped during Aeldmoot
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🤔 I was going for him being the Harlequin who pied Lightningblade, but that does sound probable.
 
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So... what's next for turn 5?

So far we've had mostly Warrior AP. Burden of Command, Chassis Militarization, and the Narcretinei section.
 
... Humanity had shinier toys than I had considered.

I don't think we've got the free resources to properly start research on all the human scrap we know about, but I'm in favor of at least surveying Ectosa's broken terraforming equipment next turn.

Maybe it'll unlock cryoguns.
 
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Candesce said:
... Humanity has shinier toys than I had considered.
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[activating sarcasm mode] Of course they couldn't possibly have anything shiny they were only building megastructures, engaging in stellar engineering and time manipulation no one could possibly have anything shiny if they where at that level [exiting sarcasm mode]

There's a reason why I several other people on this thread have been wanting to search the ruins of humanity for stuff and we have the word of the QM that humanity was getting close to being a peer to the Dominion and you don't get to that point without some really shiny stuff.

Professor Vesca said:
To be honest Nacreteini feels like a version us but smol.

A mini-me if you will.
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Aren't they supposed to be bigger then us.

EDIT: and just to add to that bit about DA0T humanity they did all of that by themselves without any shortcuts or cheats like the Eldar did.
 
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F0lkL0re said:
[activating sarcasm mode] Of course they couldn't possibly have anything shiny they were only building megastructures, engaging in stellar engineering and time manipulation no one could possibly have anything shiny if they where at that level [exiting sarcasm mode]

There's a reason why I several other people on this thread have been wanting to search the ruins of humanity for stuff and we have the word of the QM that humanity was getting close to being a peer to the Dominion and you don't get to that point without some really shiny stuff.


Aren't they supposed to be bigger then us.
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We are a large craftworld and they are a minor craftworld, why would they be bigger than us?
 
I gotta respect them.

They survived the collapse of the Dominion, looked upon their now accursed existence and decided that if they were eventually doomed, they would at least destroy what horrors - the mistakes of the Old Ones/Dominion - they can before something got them (even if only a decaying techbase and severly reduced birth rate is to be their doom).

Even if they have to do it alone.


Nacreteini gotten stronk drinking those anti-Nurgle protein-shakes.

And then the Aeldmoot is called; ISHA FUCKING LIVES and Nacreteini's friendly craftworlds reach out to others and ask for help finding them.

Fuck the curses, fuck Nurgle and as badass as you are for what you decided to do, Nacreteini; fuck doing that stuff alone!

Shit's fucked, but the Disporia pre-Aeldmoot is not the Disporia that is being built after. Now, if they were to ask for help with stuff like this; stuff that needs doing, I think there's a fair chance they'd get it.
 
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Ah, I get it now! Likely, the Five of Swords wasn't referencing the future, but instead was speaking of the past and how the Aeldari ancestors thought their containment of the Worm was secure enough. It's also possible that the card was for the fate of the Worm, not us. The scenario at the chapter's start would be a seeming victory becoming a calamitous defeat for this pseudo C'tan. It even foreshadows the Sub-realm's collapse with its "torn asunder sky".
 
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BeepSmile said:
I gotta respect them.

They survived the collapse of the Dominion, looked upon their now accursed existence and decided that if they were eventually doomed, they would at least destroy what horrors - the mistakes of the Old Ones/Dominion - they can before something got them (even if only a decaying techbase and severly reduced birth rate is to be their doom).

Even if they have to do it alone.
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Umm. No. That's not what happened and the article not at the end spells it out pretty clearly. They were moving around a lot trying to dodge there doom as long as possible and ended up stumbling on it by accident.
Mechanis said:
"In the end, the great irony is two-fold: In seeking to avoid the fate we feared, we delivered ourselves to it
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As stated here.
Mechanis said:
You who see the Future, must be wary not to let caution become fear; and to neglect a sleeping threat simply because one believes it contained—is nothing short of arrogance.
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And are specifically chastising themselves/their ancestors for not dealing with this sooner.

They were very heroic when backed into a corner and faced with no good options, but the whole thing at the end is the excerpt of a very remorseful and chagrined Aeldari.
Candesce said:
... Humanity had shinier toys than I had considered.

I don't think we've got the free resources to properly start research on all the human scrap we know about, but I'm in favor of at least surveying Ectosa's broken terraforming equipment next turn.

Maybe it'll unlock cryoguns.
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Nah. Ectosa isn't going anywhere. It can wait a few decades. Gotta triple efforts at Kronite since we underestimated the sheer scale of the project.
 
IronFist said:
I can't wait to see our hero actions.

Not to mention the diplomacy actions.

Hopefully we can get some Comms up and running... and eventually tech sharing agreements.
Imagine Prism Cannons with Starcrystals ....
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Tech sharing may either be a tech infrastructure unlock or a diplomacy unlock. If we don't think we can wait another decade on the Wild Hunt we should delay... again. If we think waiting won't give offense we should get it set up.
 
Randino Treviani said:
Nah. Ectosa isn't going anywhere. It can wait a few decades. Gotta triple efforts at Kronite since we underestimated the sheer scale of the project.
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We should also give Keopsis a look as the solar shade there is in a decaying orbit so we may not have that much time to check the place for loot.

Professor Vesca said:
If we think waiting won't give offense we should get it set up.
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They'll probably be understanding about it if we can't get things ready in time.
 
Professor Vesca said:
Tech sharing may either be a tech infrastructure unlock or a diplomacy unlock. If we don't think we can wait another decade on the Wild Hunt we should delay... again. If we think waiting won't give offense we should get it set up.
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There is no reason to delay the Wyld hunt. We don't have any tech sharing options in diplomacy thus far and if herald is as superiorly efficient as warrior was in terms of what we get done with a single AP their isn't likely to be any clash of interests. Frankly anything but low hanging fruit isn't likely to be something easily shared or traded for do to the complexity of the sciences involved.

Furthermore none of the AP involved in prepping for the Wyld Hunt is of use to a diplomatic tech exchange.
 
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Revan4221X said:
So then. A "not-quite-failed" artificial-C'tan. The Wyrm of Oblivion (Niddhog) has been..killed??? I'm not so sure about that. A "not-quite-failed" god is still a god. I suppose it's as dead as it can be. Although I'm really curious as to what, if anything but I'm assuming there is, remains of the Wrym.
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The thing got obliterated. It's deader than dead. It was never a "god". It was a C'tan slime. Which got supernova'd.

Even residue survived, it has nothing to sustain it anymore; the artificial sun is destroyed, and the only other light sources are going to leave this chamber behind. It'll starve to death in short order, assuming there's anything left to begin with. Again, supernova.

TheGrape said:
"Two more so far!"
- Average Vulkhari Reverse-Engineering-Vulture Scientist
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Emperor of Mankind: "I like the way you think."

(In a galaxy where having a "obliterate everything on this planet" option in your back pocket is just good sense, having a "turn this sun supernova" bomb for when you really need an entire area sanitized is just good sense, provided you can make them.)

Also, knowing that this kind of weapon was created by humanity back before its own fall must be another reason for us to make nice with them now.
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
The thing got obliterated. It's deader than dead. It was never a "god". It was a C'tan slime. Which got supernova'd.

Even residue survived, it has nothing to sustain it anymore; the artificial sun is destroyed, and the only other light sources are going to leave this chamber behind. It'll starve to death in short order, assuming there's anything left to begin with. Again, supernova.


Emperor of Mankind: "I like the way you think."

(In a galaxy where having a "obliterate everything on this planet" option in your back pocket is just good sense, having a "turn this sun supernova" bomb for when you really need an entire area sanitized is just good sense, provided you can make them.)

Also, knowing that this kind of weapon was created by humanity back before its own fall must be another reason for us to make nice with them now.
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It got dumped into the warp. Even a C'tan would not survive that.
 
Mechanis said:
Technically they did not, no; Nacretinei survives long enough to be known to the Imperium, after all, however, your assistance likely spared the Masque of Burning Groves significant casualties, prevented Nacretinei's fleet and their allies' forces from being completely destroyed covering their escape, and helped the remaining infiltration of the Craftworld itself be resolved more quickly, with the attending reduction in infrastructure damage and personnel losses. In short, they could have done it without you, but the cost would have been far higher, so do not think you made no or little contribution here.
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There is also the gesture to consider. In its time of great need, when Nacretinei had disappeared without a trace, a large craftworld and its alliance sent a massive force to search for it and rescue it from whatever horrors had assailed it. Nacretinei's people had no way of knowing if what they were fighting would be too much for it to handle or not.

For a small craftworld, that means a hell of a lot. It's a big, scary galaxy out there, and having powerful allies who show that they care a lot about you even when you could not know that counts for a lot.

As a recruitment pitch goes, starting off with a real-demonstration of "our alliance goes around saving the little guy" is pretty strong when you were just one said "little guy" in an existential crisis. And considering that the next item on our list is "come to the aid of a minor craftworld that sacrificed much of its fleet to save as many eldar as possible during The Fall", it's a mission that's easy for eldar in general to get behind.
 
Professor Vesca said:
Oh god. Oh Jesus.

I just had a nightmare thought.

Imagine if we had fought this thing with needlers. It *ate* wraithbone.
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This is the reasons why we should put many different types of weapon on ships and in the warhost
SaltyWaffles said:
As a recruitment pitch goes, starting off with a real-demonstration of "our alliance goes around saving the little guy" is pretty strong when you were just one said "little guy" in an existential crisis. And considering that the next item on our list is "come to the aid of a minor craftworld that sacrificed much of its fleet to save as many eldar as possible during The Fall", it's a mission that's easy for eldar in general to get behind.
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They will also learn that Mom is alive and held captive
 
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F0lkL0re said:
We should also give Keopsis a look as the solar shade there is in a decaying orbit so we may not have that much time to check the place for loot.


They'll probably be understanding about it if we can't get things ready in time.
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I'm not seeing a Keopsis in the planet list. Where are you getting this information on a decaying orbit? Because the only thing I remember in quest is the debris from Kronite.
 
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