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A Different Breed (Warhammer 29K)

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Mechanis said:
[ ] [The Lady of Rods]
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This is the closest equivalent I could think of.
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The Queen of Wands is said by some to represent one's basic instinct. Her strength and task are providing initial inputs. She says to you that you must think of the consequences of what you do, but that you must be sure to focus on what will get you moving and how to do it.

Directness, spontaneity and independence are very special talents that others admire, as long as you accept that others may be your polar opposite. Don't get tricked into becoming impatient. If the sun "shines" in your heart, you can overcome your fears and walk your own path. "Approach your tasks as steps and take every one of them with assurance." (quote of Evelin Burger and Johannes Fiebag)

One possible interpretation is that the card represents a sincere, friendly, chaste, or loving woman who might become influential or is currently present in the querent's life. The Queen of Wands can indicate a woman who is very helpful and kind. She may be the querent or she may stand for a woman in the querent's life who is older than the querent, has hair on the lighter end of the spectrum, and who is considered to be a very supportive, giving person. She could represent a mother like figure.

The card reversed could represent qualities such as good, economical, obliging, serviceable and hospitality. It can also signify opposition, jealousy, and even deceit and infidelity.
 
[] [The Unknown]
[] [The Ship]
[] [The Crown]

The Unknown for obvious reasons, the Ship because it sounds most relevant to us, and the Crown because it sounds like it could be something of great importance.
 
IronFist said:
Only the Tower is a Tarot card. And the knight of blades. Maybe.

[x] [The Ship]
[x] [The Knight of Blades]
[x] [The Ace of Guns]
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Mechanis is using some obscure stuff other than major and minor arcana, for example ship is a card in something called lenormand tarot, but fair enough.

Minor Arcana is also here, but not as obvious:
  • [The Knight of Blades] is easily Knight of Swords
  • [The Knave of Angels] is more tricky, but on the cards angels are most present on the cups cards and knave can mean jack/page, so Page of Cups
  • [The Ace of Guns], here is weak but almost necessary comparison guns=wands, so Ace of Wands
  • [The Lady of Rods] if guns mean something else like gun=weapon=sword, then lady of Rods could as well be called: Queen of Wands
  • [The Six of Shadows] by process of elimination and the association of earth with shadows/darkness and the fact that Aeldari do not have currency, Six of Coins
Other than that, there are my speculations:
  • Who would/will rule the bloodiest regime in history, who will be a definition of [The Tyrant]: The Emperor
  • [The Ship] if not from lesser known Lenormand tarot, could be viewed as vehicle, like Chariot
  • [The Storm] could be in fact a tarrot card, if you use rare named for said card, for Typhoon took it name from Typhon, which in tarot land is also known as The Devil
  • [The Shadow] I have no idea maybe shadow in the warp = nids = Death
  • [The Crown] is clearly in major arcana (which has [the] [thing] format), but it doesn't exist alone; the crown exist as motif but not as sprate thing, maybe one could view it as the Crown of the Sun
  • [The Unknown] what is not known in Warhammer universe, justice?
But that's just my speculation
 
Okay. I did an actual tarot card reading with a question. It gave very respect and cooperation focused answers that weren't particularly helpful. Thus I'm going with my gut.
Mechanis said:
[ ] [The Storm]
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This one can symbolize an unavoidable conflict. It's distinctly worth checking out, since if it is an inevitable conflict, confirming whether it is or isn't one of the obvious candidates is important.

I'm willing to be flexible on the other two and hear peoples arguments for or against, but the storm really needs to pass.
 
Mechanis said:
On consideration, I have elected to add a few interludes as a "We made PotM, whooo!" celebration.
Anyway.
Take it away, Facilier.
The cards,
The cards;​
The cards will tell,​

The Past,
The Present,​
and The Future as well;​

The cards,
The cards,

Just
Take​
Three;

​

Take a little trip into your future with meee~​


Vote for any three. The three with the most votes win.

[ ] [The Tower]
[ ] [The Ship]
[ ] [The Storm]
[ ] [The Crown]
[ ] [The Shadow]
[ ] [The Tyrant]
[ ] [The Unknown]
[ ] [The Knight of Blades]
[ ] [The Knave of Angels]
[ ] [The Ace of Guns]
[ ] [The Six of Shadows]
[ ] [The Lady of Rods]
5 Hour Moratorium​
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Calm down Facilier.
 
Randino Treviani said:
I found a "the storm" moon tarot card.
You can read the meaning here.
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Fair enough, it also has the crown:
The Crown card shows up when moral issues are in play, when you face an ethical dilemma or when you need to tap into your own divine wisdom in order to know what best to do.

Ethics and morality are extremely complex. Often, what appears to be a simple, black or white, right or wrong choice is much more nuanced. What seems morally obvious to one person may seem immoral to another. Many of us live governed by ethical and moral codes either of our own making or handed to us via our religious traditions. Ultimately, however, your wisdom will drive you to do what feels right in your heart, even on occasions when that may contradict what you think you "ought" to do.
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These are all from my original Imperial Tarot (as are all other such, past and future) so.


You may expect that actual tarot meanings may not map exactly but there will definitely be similarities.

And for the record, this has three major arcana (Light, Dark and Grey) split into five suites of five cards each (Ruling, Defending, Commanding, Serving and Foundation), plus five numberd suites of thirteen cards (Angels, Shadows, Rods, Guns and Blades, obviously, with each having ten number cards, the Lord/Lady, the Knight and the Knave)

You are, of course, too early for the Imperial Cult's version (TLDR; single major arcana, significantly more face cards) or the Tarot Sinester (You can probably guess) yet of course.
 
Profilozof said:
Sweet Isha that's a lot of cards
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to be fair, the mundane versions of the deck are typically the Light Arcana and some combination of four of the number suites, since those are actually physical paper meant for card games rather than psy-reactive scrying tools.

For the latter, the only limit on cards in a deck is how many the Psyker using them can safely draw (and has either time and resources to make themselves or connections to aquire) without exhausting themselves (or getting hit with Perils,) in the process. With the scrying tool you can draw one card for a quick and broad reading and learn everything you need just from a quick glance over what the picture looks like or draw a hundred for an enormously detailed reading that might take six centuries to fully decipher.

edit: plus you get the added fun of Irregular Cards, which mean something to the person drawing them but aren't part of the official listing---which, of course, can complicate a reading when someone else two centuries later is using the same card deck, draws it, and has to figure out what it means, since the decks "remember" the cards and their meanings...
 
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Mechanis said:
edit: plus you get the added fun of Irregular Cards, which mean something to the person drawing them but aren't part of the official listing---which, of course, can complicate a reading when someone else two centuries later is using the same card deck, draws it, and has to figure out what it means, since the decks "remember" the cards and their meanings...
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Like, I remember in one fic that some event was heralded by Tarot readings all dropping the same sequence with card that was not supposed to be part of the deck? In my honest opinion, more mysticism is always appreciated.
 
Mithrill said:
Like, I remember in one fic that some event was heralded by Tarot readings all dropping the same sequence with card that was not supposed to be part of the deck? In my honest opinion, more mysticism is always appreciated.
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yeah, that can happen. The important thing to remember about the whole thing is that the scrying tool exists as a filter: It's a tool to peer into the Warp and thense to past, present or future, and condense the gathered information into a format one can read without going mad, suffering Spontaneous Head Explosion Syndrome, getting trapped in the vision, etc etc etc.

The appearance of the actual image changes, sometimes dramatically; cards that are unique or specific variants of other cards show up (for example The Storm might show up as The Tempest to indicate the Segmentium Tempestuous, The Maelstrom for, well, The Maelstrom, The Warp-Storm to indicate you might run into one, and so on), and interpreting the whole thing is as much art as science.
 
Mechanis said:
edit: plus you get the added fun of Irregular Cards, which mean something to the person drawing them but aren't part of the official listing---which, of course, can complicate a reading when someone else two centuries later is using the same card deck, draws it, and has to figure out what it means, since the decks "remember" the cards and their meanings...
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So you are saying that for someone to understand the Tarot is to understand the VIBES from the cards itself, that's neat.
 
[X] [The Tower]
[X] [The Shadow]
[X] [The Unknown]

I would not be surprised if the shadow is related to Be'lakor in some way.
 
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