Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

Above are the changes to TRF this turn. Here are the highlights:
  • We now give ourselves and nearby allies +1 to Armor Value, which is a really impressive passive.
  • Deepwood Vitality got a MASSIVE boost. It can now link more allies (3->5 targets), and give TWO bonus health instead of one. And the dispel gets +3 now.
  • Ten Ring Defense also got an impressive boost. It lasts longer (3->5 turns), and now downgrades two points of damage instead of just one. It also grants us +2 Qi/turn in recovery on turns when we don't take damage.
  • Hundred Ring Armament got nothing. Well, it can target more allies now, but since we have to pay 4 Qi per ally targetted we are highly unlikely to use that upgrade.
Some thoughts on what this actually means.

First of all, Deepwood Vitality is now absolutely amazing. Not only does it now give TWO health boxes, but it can target up to five allies and ourselves; so that can be as much as TWELVE health. And we get this from an Instant, and not even an exceptionally expensive one at that (4 Qi after discounts right now). Oh, and it gives +3 to each of our (and out allies') physical defense rolls. In a team, this is absolutely absurd. Even if it is just Ling Qi, and Zhengui, this is likely to be a worthwhile cast, and when it does that it shows literally 1/3 of its potential. This technique is STRONG.

Ten Ring Defense is now a great technique for long, drawn-out fights against lesser opponents. Basically, in the same way that FVM lets us bleed out enemies to death, TRD lets us regen Qi if we have it up and the enemy can't hit us. I imagine it would help considerably to "marathon" type events, where we have to go through multiple conflicts without a chance to properly recover between them. In a more standard fight, TRD is likely to get us a couple of bonus Qi on average, but other than that its value remains in being able to block otherwise unblockable damage.

Finally, we have a new passive - and it is a big one! Any ally hanging around us gets +1 to their Armor Value (if they have any armor, anyways). That puts us personally at 3 armor, which is very respectable - and puts Zhengui at 6 Armor. That is a LOT of armor.
 
[X] Go along with Meizhen, you don't much care what happens to Yan Renshu, but you would rather she have backup. He's tricky.

Now we get to watch as Meizhen feeds him his own teeth. (5 bucks says Liling rocks up.)
 
Is it just me, or does the new effect mean that when used out of combat this tech can recover as much Qi as we want
While it has been fixed...

Zhengui's passive is "regains one Qi if he doesn't move for one round". Effectively infinite stamina.
I would prefer if we don't encourage Meizhen's nastier tendencies, or Ling Qi's for that matter.
Actually, read it carefully. This is how things are usually done in the empire. A lesson in truth.

I trust Meizhen to know how to properly handle enemies. Now knowing where the line in the sand is has hurt us more than once.

It also grants us +2 Qi/turn in recovery on turns when we don't take damage.
Can downgrade the cost of blocking normally unblockable damage to 1 Qi too, if it'd let us stay undamaged.
Also, this highlights why having spiritual support would be useful: Zhengui uses spiritual unarmed as well - and the same will likely be true of many spirits that we get.
Where did you get this? Literally every one of his techs gives bonuses to physical offense and defense?

[X] Go along with Meizhen, you don't much care what happens to Yan Renshu, but you would rather she have backup. He's tricky.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by TotallyNotEvil on Dec 29, 2017 at 1:33 AM, finished with 44097 posts and 41 votes.
 
Also, just thought about it, but Ling Qi must be such a precious innocent cinnamon bun to Meizhen.

MZ: Sorry for stealing your kill, but you really shouldn't leave threats like that
LQ: But I can't kill him? Haven't I already neutralised him as much as possible?
MZ: Oh you sweet summer child. Let me show you how it's done.
 
In his stats and the Ashfall technique, presumably.
His stats? He is balanced in cultivation, and absurdly focused on defense.

His offensive technique has two physical arts and gives physical bonus passive, his Ashfall more likely than not heavily influenced by Ling Qi's style.

His two weapons are physical, his favored attributes are physical, his highest mastery is physical.

Someone like Hanyi would be heavily spiritual, true. Zhengui? He is all about rearranging the landscape the old fashioned way.
 
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Where did you get this? Literally every one of his techs gives bonuses to physical offense and defense?

Note his masteries:
Natural Weapons: oooo
Power: ooo

Ashfall probably uses Power.

I agree that he isn't very Power-focused, but Ashfall is a really nice technique with great synergy for us.

Actually, read it carefully. This is how things are usually done in the empire. A lesson in truth.

I trust Meizhen to know how to properly handle enemies. Now knowing where the line in the sand is has hurt us more than once.
Well, it's how the Bai think enemies should be handled. Note that they also don't have the nicest reputation.
 
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[X] Go along with Meizhen, you don't much care what happens to Yan Renshu, but you would rather she have backup. He's tricky

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f we go kick reshu's ass we might get to see some of what AE looks like later on, and that would be great. Also I just want to kick his ass and feed his puppets to bowser.
 
Renshu is very definitely our hated enemy, and he's made it clear he means to ruin us in whatever way he can. He's not going to let this drop. If Meizhen wants to teach us how to properly neutralise enemies without killing them, I am very appreciative of the lesson!
 
Well, it's how the Bai think enemies should be handled. Note that they also don't have the nicest reputation.
"Never do an enemy small injury" is also a very wise tactic in this genre, and in general. Renshu is definitely an enemy.

Ling Qi really does need to know where the lines are. "This is what happens when one has no backing" is a very important lesson.

We should get rid of naive notions asap anyway.
Note his masteries:
Natural Weapons: oooo
Power: ooo

Ashfall probably uses Power.
Most likely, but that's the exception, not the rule.

Besides, everyone should have some dots in Power, or so it was more or less stabilished when the stat entered play.

And again, NW higher than Power. Would probably be 5-6 if there was no Ashfall to require he spend effort on power, too.
 
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Most likely, but that's the exception, not the rule.

Besides, everyone should have some dots in Power, or so it was more or less stabilished when the stat entered play.

And again, NW higher than Power. Would probably be 5-6 if there was no Ashfall to require he spend effort on power, too.
I'm not sure what your point is? I agree that we wouldn't get a spiritual support art purely to buff Ashfall - but that's not what we'd be doing here.

Instead it adds another reason why getting a spiritual offense support art would be great, as it would boost a) us, b) our allies like Meizhen, Ma Jun, Su Ling, maybe Xiulan, and c) now Zhengui as well.

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[X] Go along with Meizhen, you should probably convince her not to go overboard, and she could use backup besides

Voting for this because while I think the other will likely win, I don't think that Ling Qi should be completely ignoring Meizhen's tendency to be overly sadistic, and her attempts to be a better person are I feel an important part of her character.
 
[X] Go along with Meizhen, you don't much care what happens to Yan Renshu, but you would rather she have backup. He's tricky.

Grab Lan Lan if we can! Best binches looking for a scrap! Loot awaits!
 
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Only 5 more max qi really isn't so bad for letting Zhengui become combat capable. It is low enough that it didn't ruin my dream of also getting a very mobile spirit beast as well to facilitate harassment.
 
So, Zhengui has:
- Physical Defense: Stamina 6 + Toughness 5 + Passives 4 (+Tech 4) = 15(19)
- Aporitual Defense: Resolve 5 + Resilience 4 + Passives 4 (+Tech 4) = 13(17)
- Physical Attack: Strenght 4 + Mastery 4 + Passive 2 + Tech 6 = 16

Not bad for Early Yellow, I think. Especially with Armour 5.

@yrsillar Questions:
1) Can Zhengui use another stat in place of DEX when rolling stealth?
2) What does he roll for Boiling Shot?
3) What does he roll for Ashfall?
 
[x] Go along with Meizhen, you don't much care what happens to Yan Renshu, but you would rather she have backup. He's tricky.


Because of course I want to push Ling Qi further down the path of the Kneecapper. Also, love Zhengui and and want to see them as Bash Brothers in actual combat. If Cui gets in on it, then I'm not sure what to call it, but it'll be cool.

Sad we'll lose our second Gu Xiulan minor action, but meh; we got a BFF job now.
 
Voting for this because while I think the other will likely win, I don't think that Ling Qi should be completely ignoring Meizhen's tendency to be overly sadistic, and her attempts to be a better person are I feel an important part of her character.
I won't deny you have a point.

But this is downright necessary. And also custom, likely due the first statement.
 
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