Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

[X] Plan: The Final Countdown

If you are voting for my plan, consider switching. Clearly we need to get on board with ONE plan if we are going to do anything at all.
 
Something no one seems to be talking about in the AE changes, is that breath now got a +2 to the clash. Considering how techniques which get +dice usually get a lot of them as the art levels, this is a good sign for us to be able to use it when we get a spiritual buff art, or a glove weapon for it.
 
Admittedly, if the puzzle box *does* contain a jade slip, and it's an art that's high-priority, then that might shift things around a bit. I don't see it delaying a breakthrough (especially if it's a two-week breakthrough, as I myself prefer), but there might be some re-jiggering to pull in a couple more levels of arts before the breakthrough finishes.

Or if it contains pills applicable to breaking through, of course. Powerful enough medicines would actually change my mind regarding trying to break through all at once...


Hmm - thinking about it, what I really regret is how rushed Ling Qi is, with the tournament (and even beyond that, only a single year in the inner sect). I'm imagining what she could've done with another year at Red and Yellow, the sheer number of arts she could've mastered (Meridians would still be effectively capped, but qi would probably also be formidable)... but such is life, I suppose. If she had the kind of head-start Cai Renxiang or Sun Liling or Bai Meizhen (or even Han Jian) had...

Heh, I suppose the sect's approach is right, in a way; if there weren't the monsters of the year, Ling Qi might have lingered in Yellow longer - the pressure (particularly of Sun Liling) is definitely pushing her hard. I just wish she had more time; time to cap out all the rest of her current arts and maybe one or two more... although she'll have capped six (I think TRF's going to soft-cap) and have three a level off cap (and capping those would be waiting another three weeks or so, I estimate). Meridians will be good, qi... well, 70 is good for some solid bonus (although I would like her to have a bit more), several of her chief skills and attributes are capped and her cultivation arts are as well.


Bleh. No plan actually trains Abyssal Exhalation (or unlocks AS, but that's lower priority art-wise).
 
[X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworking

Yeah people are talking about the Worms, but they're not the only thing that changed. Stygian Depths now has a range of 30 meters instead of its previous 20 meters. This makes it equal in size to our FVM mist assuming we don't expand it. Before, we could have made FVM mist and then used Stygian, and people would have been able to dodge Stygian while still being in the mist. Now, people who are in the 30m mist are unable to dodge Stygian, unless they attempt leaving the mist which takes up an action and forces a test on them.

Other changes to the mist include a +2 bonus to the mist, making it a whopping 11 dice instead of the previous 9 dice on the first turn, and 9 dice on each subsequent turn (only the first turn has the +2 activation bonus). No matter, we can still get Gloves to enhance spiritual attack, as well as the spiritual buff. Hopefully that's enough.

In fact, in this very turn we see a fantastic art for something like that. Ma Jun has an art that gives +2 to musical arts and spiritual defence, as well as 1 free dispel attempt per turn for three turns. That's a fantastic art and I want the offensive version. +2 to music arts and spiritual attacks as well as a bonus to resisting dispel attempts. We could probably get an art like that or get two separate arts, one for spiritual offence and one for music buffing. I prefer getting the one art which covers both bases, despite it likely not being very powerful in comparison to getting two arts. It's just better for our action economy both in and out of battle.

Also our Spiritual Defence on the first turn should look like this now:
Resolve 5+ Resilience 5+ AE4+ Gown 4+ SCS 9= 27 dice

Serene reflection and Tranquil rebuke on the second turn makes it 34 dice. AE's spiritual defence passive is really neat, even better than TRF's physical defence passive and this is its second level.
 
This freed Ling Qi to focus on her tutoring and cultivation, which was a good thing for Ling Qi. Bian Ya was certainly not a bad tutor, and she was friendly enough, even if her spirit beast was not, but her insights were clearly focused on the manipulation of wood qi. To her, wind was secondary, combining with Wood to form the concept of 'Dispersal'

Ling Qi could understand the older girls understanding of the combined element, and the exercises in maintaining flows of wood qi disconnected from her channels, attached only by threads of wind, were certainly helpful in advancing her understanding of her sole wood art.

It was less directly useful in her practice with the Falling Stars art, but eventually, she reached an understanding. Wind, or rather air was not simply freedom and motion, it was also a thing of connections. Wind lay between earth and heaven, and touched all things. With this understanding, the final technique of the Falling Stars art was unlocked, and she gained mastery of the art.

I can think of two things:
- way to increase aoe of our arts
- there may be method to connect music arts to our bow. Give it ability to apply music debufs, get bonus from expression dice.
 
Something to try in the future - combine Abyssal Exhalation with Forgotten Vale Melody. After all, the flute produces music through the exhalation of breath; I wonder if Ling Qi might not be able to blend the effects together with some practice.

That's a kind of training action that I'm kind of wondering about - as Zeqing showed, arts can be refined as well as simply cultivated, leading to a somewhat different result. Perhaps it's something that opens up once you hit Green/Bronze and/or the inner sect; outer sect is about racing ahead, but Green is a longer period of cultivation, and I don't know how many more meridians someone can actually open (assuming they got close to the effective soft-cap in Yellow). Six ways to improve your personal combat power come to mind (not counting spirits and talismans):

1. Increase your cultivation. Everyone works at this, but it slows down, as I understand. Becomes less feasible, especially as you approach your effective limit.
2. Increase your attributes, skills and specialties. This is good for another die or two and sometimes an effective cultivation level in some circumstances.
3. Open more meridians, gain more arts to get more passives and techniques in your active arsenal. Straightforward, but needs ever-increasing dice pools to open them.
4. Find or develop higher-quality arts, abandon old ones (or higher quality ones are successors that 'subsume' the previous ones, as per Zephyr).
5. Find arts compatible with existing meridians, swap out as needed for versatility.
6. Increase the potency of your existing arts.

That last one... well, I'm hoping that becomes a possibility once Ling Qi has settled down with her long-term set of arts.


In fact, in this very turn we see a fantastic art for something like that. Ma Jun has an art that gives +2 to musical arts and spiritual defence, as well as 1 free dispel attempt per turn for three turns. That's a fantastic art and I want the offensive version. +2 to music arts and spiritual attacks as well as a bonus to resisting dispel attempts. We could probably get an art like that or get two separate arts, one for spiritual offence and one for music buffing. I prefer getting the one art which covers both bases, despite it likely not being very powerful in comparison to getting two arts. It's just better for our action economy both in and out of battle.

Also our Spiritual Defence on the first turn should look like this now:
Resolve 5+ Resilience 5+ AE4+ Gown 4+ SCS 9= 27 dice

Serene reflection and Tranquil rebuke on the second turn makes it 34 dice. AE's spiritual defence passive is really neat, even better than TRF's physical defence passive and this is its second level.

Indeed. Defense dice are pretty good things to have. That's one of the reason I'm irked that people aren't interested in unlocking the next level of AS; another couple dice of physical defense (and possibly a boost to the instant technique that offers even more) could be extremely handy against an unhappy flower princess (as would yet more speed and initiative, of course :p). TRF gives +3, AS gives +2; on the spirit side, AE gives +4.

Actually, I wonder...

Argent Mirror - "The early form of the Sects defensive and perceptive arts."
Argent Current - "The First form of the Argent Sects melee combat arts."
Argent Storm - "The early form of the Sects physical enhancement and movement arts."

... you know, one thing that's missing is these descriptions is "spiritual combat". Argent Storm boost physical defense, Argent Current physical attacks, Argent Mirror boosts defenses against some kinds of spiritual effects... That might suggest a spirit attack art would complete the picture.

Hard to say, of course. So far what each Argent Art has covered has generally been a surprise, even if the element pairings were predicted. It could be what Ji Rong exhibited, and is meant to help one person fight many (or it could be that and have a spirtual attack technique - area of effect, perhaps?), or could be something quite different from current speculation.

At least we're getting EPC to it.

Yeah, but it'd need four weeks of EPC bonuses to get level 3 on its own; two EPC bonuses (this turn, next turn; assuming breakthrough finishes week 38) and an action could make 88 successes and get it done before breakthrough finishes. Another 'strong art' level for earth and for dark should be good for the breakthrough, and boosting that breath technique would be quite nice.
 
Something to try in the future - combine Abyssal Exhalation with Forgotten Vale Melody. After all, the flute produces music through the exhalation of breath; I wonder if Ling Qi might not be able to blend the effects together with some practice.

That's a kind of training action that I'm kind of wondering about - as Zeqing showed, arts can be refined as well as simply cultivated, leading to a somewhat different result. Perhaps it's something that opens up once you hit Green/Bronze and/or the inner sect; outer sect is about racing ahead, but Green is a longer period of cultivation, and I don't know how many more meridians someone can actually open (assuming they got close to the effective soft-cap in Yellow). Six ways to improve your personal combat power come to mind (not counting spirits and talismans):
Pretty sure it's quite possible, the problem is currently our mastery of AE itself is too low to begin attempting such a feat, but we've had a similar refinement with FVM's targeting under stress before.
Yeah, but it'd need four weeks of EPC bonuses to get level 3 on its own; two EPC bonuses (this turn, next turn; assuming breakthrough finishes week 38) and an action could make 88 successes and get it done before breakthrough finishes. Another 'strong art' level for earth and for dark should be good for the breakthrough, and boosting that breath technique would be quite nice.
Thats mostly me saying "better than nothing", I really want to cultivate AE more, but there's a push against and no push in favor.
 
No specifics on the Heart meridian roll, should've gotten ~7 overflow to phys from it.

[X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworking

Gonna try a tally.
Adhoc vote count started by Humbaba on Dec 23, 2017 at 5:31 AM, finished with 43776 posts and 62 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworking
    -[X] Use: Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18= 85RSS, 1 YSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Major: Train at the Vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Attached Minor: Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Major: Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] Attached Minor: You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Major: Cultivate on your Own
    --[X] Argent Current
    -[X] Major: Research Dragons, and how they might be appeased
    -[X] Major: Do a Job
    --[X] Wolfpack Hunt: A group of rinefur wolves have moved into the wilderness at the base of the mountains. Numbering nearly a score, with an alpha at the first stages of grade three, they cannot be allowed to remain. Eliminate the pack. 3 points for each slain wolf. 15 for the alpha.
    --[X] Invite Gu Xiulan
    -[X] Minor: Work to Unlock the Puzzle Box
    -[X] Minor: Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Minor: Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    [X] Plan: The Final Countdown
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18=95RSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Physical Cultivation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Major: Train at the Vent with Su Ling (Arm Meridian)
    --[X] Attached Minor: Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Major: Explore and Train with Golden Fields (Thousand Ring Fortress)
    --[X] Attached Minor: You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Major: Cultivate on your Own (Argent Current)
    -[X] Major: Research Dragons, and how they might be appeased
    -[X] Major: Do a Favor for Fu Xiang (2)
    -[X] Minor: Work to Unlock the Puzzle Box
    -[X] Minor: Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Minor: You've learned what you can from simply observing Cai Renxiang. Ask her about the capital and about herself
    [X] Plan Steady as a Turtle
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Current
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Physical
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Use from inventory: 3 RSS (3), 1 YSS (10), Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18=95RSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Cultivate Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] (minor) You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Open Arm Meridian
    --[X] (minor) Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Cultivate Argent Current
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[X] Do a favor for Fu Xiang
    --[X] Try for x2 Favors, but stop at 1 if the first heist doesn't go too well (i.e. we have used up our reroll)
    -[X] Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    -[X] Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Work to unlock the Puzzle Box
    [x] Plan Let's Try This Out
    -[X] Use: Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18= 85RSS, 1 YSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Current
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Open Arm Meridian
    ---[X] (minor) You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Cultivate Thousand Ring Fortress
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Cultivate Argent Current
    ---[x] (minor) Work to unlock the Puzzle Box
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[x] Take a job
    -[x] Wolfpack Hunt
    --[x] Invite Xiulan
    -[X] Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    -[X] Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[x] You've learned what you can from simply observing Cai Renxiang. Ask her about the capital and about herself
    [X] Plan Favorless
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Current
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Use from inventory: 3 RSS (3), 1 YSS (10), Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18=95RSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Cultivate Argent Current
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Open Arm Meridian
    --[X] (minor) Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Cultivate Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] (minor) Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[x] Take a job
    --[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    -[X] Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    -[X] You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[x] You've learned what you can from simply observing Cai Renxiang. Ask her about the capital and about herself
    [X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworkin
    [X] Plan TOKEN DOOMED RESISTANCE
    -[X] Use: Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18= 85RSS, 1 YSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Major: Train at the Vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Attached Minor: Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Major: Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] Attached Minor: You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Major: Cultivate on your Own
    --[X] Argent Current
    -[X] Major: Research Dragons, and how they might be appeased
    -[X] Major: Do a Job
    --[X] Wolfpack Hunt: A group of rinefur wolves have moved into the wilderness at the base of the mountains. Numbering nearly a score, with an alpha at the first stages of grade three, they cannot be allowed to remain. Eliminate the pack. 3 points for each slain wolf. 15 for the alpha.
    --[X] Invite Gu Xiulan
    -[X] Minor: Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Minor: Speak with Han Jian, about Argent Storm and the Golden Fields. What is his home like?
    -[X] Minor: Your feelings regarding Gu Tai are... conflicted, maybe you should speak with him a bit. You know where he is staying.
 
[X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworking

I'm a bit sad there's no Han Jian but I guess it'll have to do. Can't vote for trycholisis' plan because of the lack of Meizhen/puzzle box.
 
[x] Plan Let's Try This Out

lol I actually messed up my previous vote change
Adhoc vote count started by Absum on Dec 23, 2017 at 8:18 AM, finished with 43782 posts and 65 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworking
    -[X] Use: Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18= 85RSS, 1 YSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Major: Train at the Vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Attached Minor: Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Major: Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] Attached Minor: You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Major: Cultivate on your Own
    --[X] Argent Current
    -[X] Major: Research Dragons, and how they might be appeased
    -[X] Major: Do a Job
    --[X] Wolfpack Hunt: A group of rinefur wolves have moved into the wilderness at the base of the mountains. Numbering nearly a score, with an alpha at the first stages of grade three, they cannot be allowed to remain. Eliminate the pack. 3 points for each slain wolf. 15 for the alpha.
    --[X] Invite Gu Xiulan
    -[X] Minor: Work to Unlock the Puzzle Box
    -[X] Minor: Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Minor: Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    [X] Plan: The Final Countdown
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18=95RSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Physical Cultivation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Major: Train at the Vent with Su Ling (Arm Meridian)
    --[X] Attached Minor: Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Major: Explore and Train with Golden Fields (Thousand Ring Fortress)
    --[X] Attached Minor: You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Major: Cultivate on your Own (Argent Current)
    -[X] Major: Research Dragons, and how they might be appeased
    -[X] Major: Do a Favor for Fu Xiang (2)
    -[X] Minor: Work to Unlock the Puzzle Box
    -[X] Minor: Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Minor: You've learned what you can from simply observing Cai Renxiang. Ask her about the capital and about herself
    [X] Plan Steady as a Turtle
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Current
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Physical
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Use from inventory: 3 RSS (3), 1 YSS (10), Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18=95RSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Cultivate Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] (minor) You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Open Arm Meridian
    --[X] (minor) Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Cultivate Argent Current
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[X] Do a favor for Fu Xiang
    --[X] Try for x2 Favors, but stop at 1 if the first heist doesn't go too well (i.e. we have used up our reroll)
    -[X] Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    -[X] Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Work to unlock the Puzzle Box
    [x] Plan Let's Try This Out
    -[X] Use: Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18= 85RSS, 1 YSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Current
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Open Arm Meridian
    ---[X] (minor) You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Cultivate Thousand Ring Fortress
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Cultivate Argent Current
    ---[x] (minor) Work to unlock the Puzzle Box
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[x] Take a job
    -[x] Wolfpack Hunt
    --[x] Invite Xiulan
    -[X] Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    -[X] Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[x] You've learned what you can from simply observing Cai Renxiang. Ask her about the capital and about herself
    [X] Plan Favorless
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Current
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Use from inventory: 3 RSS (3), 1 YSS (10), Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18=95RSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Cultivate Argent Current
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Open Arm Meridian
    --[X] (minor) Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Cultivate Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] (minor) Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[x] Take a job
    --[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    -[X] Meizhen has been disappearing more often, she's even too busy to train this week. What is she up too?
    -[X] You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[x] You've learned what you can from simply observing Cai Renxiang. Ask her about the capital and about herself
    [X] Plan TOKEN DOOMED RESISTANCE
    -[X] Use: Highsun Pill
    -[X] Purchase: Channel Cleansing Pill (2) + Heavy Rains Pill (10) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Both Fire Pills (2+6) + Vigorous Sapling Pill (2) + Second Wood Pill (6) + Bear Marrow Elixir (4) + Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10) + White Hart Elixir (6) + Steady Growth Pill (8) + Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total resources consumed: 3+10+2+10+2+6+2+6+2+6+4+10+6+8+18= 85RSS, 1 YSS, 1 Highsun Pill
    -[X] EPC Bonus: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Overflow -> Physical
    -[X] Major: Train at the Vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Attached Minor: Invite Su Ling to join in and spar with the Ma Sisters. She could use some partners closer to her level, and more friends besides
    -[X] Major: Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    --[X] Attached Minor: You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] Major: Cultivate on your Own
    --[X] Argent Current
    -[X] Major: Research Dragons, and how they might be appeased
    -[X] Major: Do a Job
    --[X] Wolfpack Hunt: A group of rinefur wolves have moved into the wilderness at the base of the mountains. Numbering nearly a score, with an alpha at the first stages of grade three, they cannot be allowed to remain. Eliminate the pack. 3 points for each slain wolf. 15 for the alpha.
    --[X] Invite Gu Xiulan
    -[X] Minor: Zhengui's pyre had begun to dim, shrinking no matter how much fuel you add. You should be there when he emerges
    -[X] Minor: Speak with Han Jian, about Argent Storm and the Golden Fields. What is his home like?
    -[X] Minor: Your feelings regarding Gu Tai are... conflicted, maybe you should speak with him a bit. You know where he is staying.
 
@yrsillar - I'm putting together a list of things that need to be addressed when you have time.
  • Grinning Moon Bonus to AE
  • Vent bonus to AC
  • Heart Meridian action
  • We wanted to give Li Suyin her pen
  • We should have gotten 39 total successes for FSA, not 29 - which means an extra 10 points of overflow to Physical
  • The thing mentioned here
  • Listing the breakthrough pills from here under medicines
I think that is everything, but I'll add things here as they come up.
@Everyone - is there anything else that needs to go into this list?

Addressed most of these. Suyin has the pen, just didn't find a place to work it into the scene.

Where the heck did he get that?

Because the multi attacker bonus always struck me as a fairly important part of the worldbuilding as being a big reason that the stronger couldn't simply stomp everyone into the ground and had to pay at least some sort of attention to the feelings of the people/their subordinates as a whole. Because a decently large group of (1 realm) lower levels could overwhealm a higher realm without making it virtually certain that all or most would die in the attempt.

If a mere late yellow can get an art to negate this basic building block of the world * a lot of the worldbuilding makes much less sense, and frankly makes this world a lot less interesting. Because we'd revert very quickly to traditional Xianxia where people can pay zero attention to anyone even slightl weaker than them.

*He hasn't even turned it into a 'must be the same realm, rather than a realm below as me to apply' he's just flat out negated it.

To readress this, you are right, getting rid of the multi attacker penalty does kinda break a lot of the world building. Which is why, although it can be modified, increased or decreased, it can't be reduced below one except by being two plus realms above your opponent. Essentially, arts which offer reductions exist to counter arts like Argent Storm.

That does make me wonder:

@yrsillar
When we looked at Ji Rong's Qi, did we sense the presence of Earth? Because I wouldn't be surprised if that art of his is the 4th Argent Art.

Not that you noticed, no.

yech, only 1? While we don't necessarily need 3, it is good to go above the minimum in order to show that we're helpful to Fu Xiang, and cultivate a positive relationship with him. This is useful to us.

@yrsillar could we do a dynamic number of favors? What I mean by this is that Ling Qi goes and does them, but if it turns out that the defenses are stronger than she expected then she plays it safe and cuts her losses, while if they turn out to be easy she just does all of them. Mechanically, what I mean by this is that we do it until we use our reroll, and then we finish things up there. This might mean only doing 1, it might mean doing all 3.
Yeah I will allow this

I strongly doubt that @yrsillar is going to do something like that. I'll see what he says this evening, though, and what our stat sheet looks like after mistakes are fixed. I'm not necessarily opposed to changing the Grinning Moon bonus to AE if it turns out to make sense.

As it is a one time bonus I will allow it. I just don't want the site bonuses being used for cheese while you're at max.

Which is really interrsting, given we have less with three s.def arts. I wonder how @yrsillar specced him.

Anyway, why ate people assuming ling qi is a bad thief? Sun liling as much as told us we are considered bronze for thieving. We Will be punching down.


Please let us not do the heists when yalismans are coming next week?

Also, it has now been 6 weeks without xiulan. Any plan without her minor is unacceptable.

We ha e 98.8 chance to get peak phys without stealth success, plrase put tjrm to ae?

High physical attack and defense, specced to be able to fight reasonably effectively against multiple opponents alone. If he had a another turn or two to set up that fight would have gone significantly different.

@yrsillar, are we due an update to the Jobs Board?

I should probably do that, yeah, it'll be updated by next week.

The biggest difference I can see is in raw health boxes, they still lose out there, if you discount qi blocking.

@yrsillar, do the worms regen qi like we do because of AE's wounded enemy = gain qi passive?

No, not as they are.

@yrsillar I see we've got 129/180 on physical, and have gotten our heart meridian. I was just wondering what the overflow on that was? If there was any, I think we should be higher on physical, since 129 was what we had before heart meridian...

Huh, looking back I had just kinda assumed that you guys had gotten it and I forgot, but that doesn't seem to be the case... which means FZ or something needs to be uneqipped, bluurgh.

Ok i will make a post explaining my vote when i get access to a computer. Still, a big suedtion for @yrsillar as that is relevant now:

If we do closed door breakthrough next week, do we have 3 or 1 minor left? As in, do we lose both attached minors as well as unattached ones because breakthrough are alone time?

Or can we work some of them out to be attached even then, or simply have three unattached given breakthrough week will be quick to write and a bit empty with one minor.
[X] Plan: Flaming Fire + Woodworking

You can't attach social actions to breakthrough attemps, no.
 
I just noticed that Ling Qi doesn't seem to have the old storage ring. I guess part of the loot distribution was trading in the old one to one of the other participants in the raid for the bigger one.
 
All we need to do is hit them once while they're turtled up and the entire Sun faction will shatter. Are there any raids planned for this week, or maybe a thief job?
 
@yrsillar yikes, that's.... well, if 'closed door' means exhanging 4 minors for 1 major, that does mean using it as 'closed door' is highly inefficient, rather than using it in a normal week. I guess it doesn't mean having 7 actions either?
 
All we need to do is hit them once while they're turtled up and the entire Sun faction will shatter. Are there any raids planned for this week, or maybe a thief job?

I doubt that's ever going to happen. Cai is already holding back for fear that the Elders will intervene. Similarly I doubt they'll allow the Cai faction to keep Ji Rong a prisoner until the tournament.
 
I doubt that's ever going to happen. Cai is already holding back for fear that the Elders will intervene. Similarly I doubt they'll allow the Cai faction to keep Ji Rong a prisoner until the tournament.

She held him for like a month earlier in the quest.

The elders dont give a damn about Ji Rong. He has no political clout, and although he is talented, that advantage is undone because he's an idiot. Or perhaps just really unlucky.

Doesn't really matter either way.
 
Are we sure we have enough to get physical to peak without a physical cultivation action?
@yrsillar yikes, that's.... well, if 'closed door' means exhanging 4 minors for 1 major, that does mean using it as 'closed door' is highly inefficient, rather than using it in a normal week. I guess it doesn't mean having 7 actions either?
My interpretation we can attach minors to actions during a 'closed door week', except when the action is a breakthrough attempt, which has to be pretty much meditating alone. Even if we don't do closed door, we still can't attach minors to breakthrough attempts, meaning that doing five breakthrough attempts still means reducing social actions from five to three.
 
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