Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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IC we know the Argent curriculum is supposed to be a combination of the imperial eight. We have six of the eight covered in three arts. We feel on the verge of completion after mastering the third art. It is hit-me-in-the-face-with-a-brick evident that there's a fourth art out there, which...surprise surpise, combines the two missing elements which might lead us to the completion we feel we're beginning to near!
Our OOC reasons for seeking the fourth one out are...well also our reasons IC, it completes the Sect's curriculum, we feel like there's something to be gained by completing them, the argent arts so far have proven worthwhile and finally, it would likely put us on the map in the eyes of the Sect's leadership.
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Why is the argent art write in gamey? Ling Qi explicitly noted last week that "With three Argent arts active, Ling Qi felt slightly strange, like she was on the verge of something." Why wouldn't she look for the fourth argent art after that? And while she hasn't explicitly said in character that she knows there is a fourth argent art that's heaven/earth, she easily smart enough to see the obvious pattern.
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Bit more seriously, I think the value of getting Su Ling some more people to interact with is understated.
The sentiment that she's somehow the most mentally stable of our social circle and has it all figured out keeps cropping up sometimes and, while I can definitely see where it's coming from and it's probably true in some ways, it kind of pushes aside that Su Ling is also the only person among our social circle that attempted to engage in outright self-mutilation.
Like, even Xiulan's scars are only the byproduct of her taking an incredibly risky and desperate gamble, they were not what she was actually after.
Forcing her to adopt our minions isn't going to magically fix anything of course, but it might help in some ways.
Just like the rest of our friends, Su Ling isn't in a great place and, especially if you do buy into the idea that she's the best one off of us, that also means both us and Suyin are people she rather has to worry for.
The Ma sisters seem pretty stable and their concerns largely mundane, which makes them rather unlikely to pile onto existing worries, but that also means they provide a good outlet for basic socialization.
Not to mention that, if we do want to drag Su Ling along to wherever we plan to go after the sect, it's kind of necessary to start working on that early and tying her into our first budding command structure is a pretty neat way to do so.
There's very little guarantee the action will stick around in this form for long or that things won't be on fire next week, so I honestly can't justify ignoring it even if the thought of sweet sweet loot is tempting.
The sentiment that she's somehow the most mentally stable of our social circle and has it all figured out keeps cropping up sometimes and, while I can definitely see where it's coming from and it's probably true in some ways, it kind of pushes aside that Su Ling is also the only person among our social circle that attempted to engage in outright self-mutilation.
Like, even Xiulan's scars are only the byproduct of her taking an incredibly risky and desperate gamble, they were not what she was actually after.
Forcing her to adopt our minions isn't going to magically fix anything of course, but it might help in some ways.
Just like the rest of our friends, Su Ling isn't in a great place and, especially if you do buy into the idea that she's the best one off of us, that also means both us and Suyin are people she rather has to worry for.
The Ma sisters seem pretty stable and their concerns largely mundane, which makes them rather unlikely to pile onto existing worries, but that also means they provide a good outlet for basic socialization.
Not to mention that, if we do want to drag Su Ling along to wherever we plan to go after the sect, it's kind of necessary to start working on that early and tying her into our first budding command structure is a pretty neat way to do so.
There's very little guarantee the action will stick around in this form for long or that things won't be on fire next week, so I honestly can't justify ignoring it even if the thought of sweet sweet loot is tempting.
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The obligatory pro MaSuMa post.
The GG minor could be useful in training but we've done team mission minors before (grabbing KZ and wolf hunting come to mind) and we neither saw much of a battle (this is a minor) nor got much loot. So I think those taking this option with the hopes of such, will be disappointed. What we will get, is a chance for interaction with the our faction but I'm not too bothered about that, personally. We have our own friends so I'd rather not just be subsumed by Cai's organisation.
The MaSuMa minor on the other hand, has us talking to Su Ling. Not everyone's cup of tea but she's pretty awesome, pretty directionless and the person I'm most interested in as a follower. She's a tracker, a production disciple and has an awesome divination art that she's already used to save us before. Her being, most likely, from this province and her plans to become a hermit also makes her the most likely to follow us if we rise through the ranks under Cai.
Another factor is the Ma twins who are also part of the Cai faction. But they're our subordinates so developing our own group within the greater faction improves relations without becoming another cog in the CRX machine. Then there's the benefits of the trio getting along. With Su Ling's defensive Earth/Mountain saber art, Lei would be a much better training partner for her than us. Jun on the other hand, would be great to practice our music with. Hopefully all of it together could make Su Ling more amenable to following us and if she doesn't enter the inner sect, it'd be good to have people she could depend on.
Also, for the saps out there
The GG minor could be useful in training but we've done team mission minors before (grabbing KZ and wolf hunting come to mind) and we neither saw much of a battle (this is a minor) nor got much loot. So I think those taking this option with the hopes of such, will be disappointed. What we will get, is a chance for interaction with the our faction but I'm not too bothered about that, personally. We have our own friends so I'd rather not just be subsumed by Cai's organisation.
The MaSuMa minor on the other hand, has us talking to Su Ling. Not everyone's cup of tea but she's pretty awesome, pretty directionless and the person I'm most interested in as a follower. She's a tracker, a production disciple and has an awesome divination art that she's already used to save us before. Her being, most likely, from this province and her plans to become a hermit also makes her the most likely to follow us if we rise through the ranks under Cai.
Another factor is the Ma twins who are also part of the Cai faction. But they're our subordinates so developing our own group within the greater faction improves relations without becoming another cog in the CRX machine. Then there's the benefits of the trio getting along. With Su Ling's defensive Earth/Mountain saber art, Lei would be a much better training partner for her than us. Jun on the other hand, would be great to practice our music with. Hopefully all of it together could make Su Ling more amenable to following us and if she doesn't enter the inner sect, it'd be good to have people she could depend on.
Also, for the saps out there
Would you really say no to more of this adorableness?
The minions, as cute as they may be, will not be coming with us into the Inner Sect no matter what. They have no upheaval, or social issues that we know of.
Xiulan could be moving up with us, has zero friends outside of us, lives alone (even SuSu live together and have their teacher/mortals/buyers to interact with!), is kinda on the outs with family, was recently crippled, and generally has massive issues right now. Oh, and we've barely interacted with her for weeks.
Xiulan needs a friend right now.
Xiulan could be moving up with us, has zero friends outside of us, lives alone (even SuSu live together and have their teacher/mortals/buyers to interact with!), is kinda on the outs with family, was recently crippled, and generally has massive issues right now. Oh, and we've barely interacted with her for weeks.
Xiulan needs a friend right now.
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I don't think that I want to mix our minions and Su Ling. To my interpretation Su Ling doesn't want to be a minion, full stop. And even though a large part of the sect probably assumes that she is our minion, Ling Qi has generally tried to treat her as a friend.
I think that asking her to spar with people who are explicitly our minions might come off as us treating Su Ling as our minion, which could worsen our relationship with her.
I don't think that I want to mix our minions and Su Ling. To my interpretation Su Ling doesn't want to be a minion, full stop. And even though a large part of the sect probably assumes that she is our minion, Ling Qi has generally tried to treat her as a friend.
I think that asking her to spar with people who are explicitly our minions might come off as us treating Su Ling as our minion, which could worsen our relationship with her.
Mm, yeah thats fairly accurate.
The contingencies action
Eh, they are kinda of disparate, but I suppose I can work something out.
I suppose I can put together some kind of dossier on people Ling Qi should know about. You will have to wait a bit until I have the time though.
Just the armor granted by the tech itself.
Yeah fraternal twins
Its been added on the front page
Yeah they'll be along for that.
For the purposes of the multi attacker thing, yes.
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voting for this because I dislike the addon to the Cai action.
voting for this because I dislike the addon to the Cai action.
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Been asked before. Whatever weapon is in our hand at the time. So when we're using the flute we use manip+expression.
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Su Ling's issue is with getting involved with politics. She's never mentioned having a problem with being a minion. The first could suggest the latter but it could also suggest she'd prefer being a minion to leading or being involved in politics e.g if the only way to be left alone by MoI was to pay lip service to someone and we're the only option that'd ask nothing in return.
I do agree that Ling Qi only wants her as a friend though. I think they make great friends which is why I want them to interract more and I'm also pretty sure the only way Su Ling is becoming our minion is if she initiates. Su Ling knows Ling Qi well enough to not just assume she's been made a minion.
Yeah. Well if your unarmed, see Codex's post above
Consider giving smaller bonuses to the rolls if it turns out that our tutor ends up only being kinda a match for one or the other. Seems like a fair punishment for deciding to take non-matching tutoring actions.
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Eh on investing in more argent arts. We've been told that going in on these generally means building around Argent Arts pretty much entirely, and that they're just a bunch of good arts otherwise. Asking a favor from Cai isn't worth it.
If we can't literally fit 1-2 actions in to build up a specialty (e.g., music, stealth) then we absolutely shouldn't go looking for a random art that has quite probably has nothing to do with our build. If we can devote potential time to looking for the argent art, then we can spend it on a more in-build art instead.
Eh on investing in more argent arts. We've been told that going in on these generally means building around Argent Arts pretty much entirely, and that they're just a bunch of good arts otherwise. Asking a favor from Cai isn't worth it.
If we can't literally fit 1-2 actions in to build up a specialty (e.g., music, stealth) then we absolutely shouldn't go looking for a random art that has quite probably has nothing to do with our build. If we can devote potential time to looking for the argent art, then we can spend it on a more in-build art instead.
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What's the multo attacked formula again? Because IIRC, this sounds like very wolf ocultasse being alone vs Diapason and Dissonance and as still fighting Ling Qi 1x1.
Shouldn't it just be 4 (Ling Qi, Xiulan, Diapason and Dissonance) vs 20 Wolves?
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I very much disagree. We still aren't at the point where we must choose to go all-in on the Sect Arts.
More importantly, they have been universally useful and potent, and are meant to synergize among themselves.
If we can spend ~2 actions getting the complete set and likely unlocking the Argent Element, it will be well worth the trouble, given:
A) We are sort of studying at the Argent Sect
B) This is just before breakthroughk Which means multiplied benefits and permanent bonuses.
C) Specializations would make already pretty damn good Arts even better. Like how music got a whole lot more competitive.
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