Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

Does that matter?

i mean i think they already know anyway.
It only matters if Han Jian hasn't told the rest of the group. After all, we approached him individually about it, not as part of the group.

Iirc the bonus is given by having a stealth or larceny action in the week. I don't see one in the plan.
You do remember correctly, but there are two possible stealth aspects to my plan.

The storm spirit mission. It is a lot easier to catch spirits if they are unaware you are coming. We sneak up on them and catch them, that will be the quickest way.
The Li Suyin spider summons minor. They might remember that we were there before and that we stole their silk. Might be best to be as stealthy as possible.
 
Okay, I think we're good for plans, so here's an early one from me!

[X] Plan: Surprise! I'm secretly invincible!
-[X] Resources: Clear Wind Pill, Vigorous Sapling Pill, White Hart Elixir, Second Level Wood Pill 1 YSS, 3 RSS (Total Cost: 29 RSS)
-[X] EPC Bonus Successes: Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
-[X] Train with Meizhen
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
--[X] Minor: You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
-[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
--[X] Fleeting Zephyr
--[X] Minor: Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
-[X] Scout out Sun Liling's base of operations
-[X] Minor: Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
-[X] Minor: Find the time for a chat with Guangli, even if he is biased, he's probably the one who knows Cai best
-[X] Minor: Spend some time around Cai Renxiang, what does she actually do all day

THE PLAN:
The whole plan here is to abuse our newfound power maliciously. Right now, the normal Anti-Ling Qi tactics are more or less useless, but that won't last forever given how good the intel gathering abilities of our rivals are. Getting into Sun Liling's castle and finding out what she's up to prevents another Thunderdome from happening on her terms again, and we'll have a good grasp of her combat strength this way too. Right now, we have plenty of tools to break in with and gather plenty of information with, and it's good for our Cultivation to do this kind of thing anyway.

Fleeting Zephyr and TRF being upgraded increases our battle strength a bit further as well, besides both of them being pretty low hanging fruits. This also takes care of Li Suyin's spirit binding effort--and might get us Vault Guardian translated too at the end of it, which is good because Zhengui's due to go into hibernation anytime now.

Beyond that, we start taking steps to investigate CRX's offer, and see if she's the kind of suzerain we could learn to get along with in the long term. It was a big offer we got, and I want to make sure we're as informed as we can get about it before we take the plunge.
 
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[X] Plan The Dark Storm

Has all the minors I want and I trust Thor's Twin to make a good plan Major action/pill wise.
 
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Wait a minute... Is scouting Liling's fortress our only possible source of larceny actions this week? I thought at first that Suyin might count, but if she's making a ritual supplication, she's probably doing that pretty openly, so I don't think we'll actually be doing much stealthing. Huh.

Does our patron really like Cai or something? We keep getting pushed to deal with Cai/our enemies in the name of cultivation...
 
K, know what? Gonna sleep now. For the moment, voting for

[X] Plan: Surprise! I'm secretly invincible!

I'd rather swap Guangli for the shaman bag, but everything else is cool, and I really think now is the best time to scout out Liling's fortress.
 
Wait a minute... Is scouting Liling's fortress our only possible source of larceny actions this week? I thought at first that Suyin might count, but if she's making a ritual supplication, she's probably doing that pretty openly, so I don't think we'll actually be doing much stealthing. Huh.
It is the only openly stealth option.

There are a couple other opportunities that may be stealth missions, but we don't know for sure.
1. Li Suyin minor: She might be doing it openly, but the spiders don't have to know that we are there.
2. Storm job: Catching wind spirits is a lot easier when they don't know you're there. They don't have time to fly away.
3. Forest mission: fighting through a bunch of spirits to get to the sites is tiresome. If the spirits don't know you're there, they can't stop you!
 
Yes, but add the first strike damage dice bonus and Ling Qi has a very nice 1vs1 opening strike. It's probably good enough to take red mooks in a single silent hit.
That doesn't work. Remember that our damage is capped by our DV.
... you know, if Ling Qi breaks through week 34-35, she's got another 16 weeks to make it to Mid-Green. Given EPC helping fuel her advancement... you know, I think she just might. That could be a hideous ace in the hole for her. Especially with the below tidbit... effective Late Green cultivation for FVM, anyone? +1 auto-successes on anyone else, +2 auto-successes on other top competitors, +6 auto-successes on the rest? You ain't dispelling that any time soon - She could actually make a shot for the #1 place.
The net effects of an extra cultivation level in both Spiritual and Physical is a +1 auto against people in Green (and +2 autos against anyone in a different Cultivation Rank). Given that most everyone we are going to fight in the tourney should be Green, it isn't THAT much of a trump card; I'm not convinced that would be a better use of our time then e.g. getting the forest green level to another pair of arts.
 
[X] Plan Find Meridians
-[X] Resources: 3x RS, 1x YS, Rippling Lake Pill (2), Stalwart Mountain Pill (2), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), 2nd Level Pills for Lake + Mountain + Wood (18)
-- [X] Restock Restoratives: 2x Wellspring Pill (6), 1x Spirit Restoration Pill (15) (Total: 21)
-- [X] Make 2 Ossuary Scouts
-[X] Overflow: Qi
-[X] EPC Bonus: EPC
-[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] AM

--[X] Training is nice, but you'd like to get to be better friends with Su Ling, perhaps you could see if she has any interest in music?
-[X] Train with Meizhen
--[X] EPC
--[X] You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
-[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
--[X] TRF
-[X] Scout out Sun Liling's base of operations
-- [X] Free: Let Meizhen know we're planning to do this
-[X] Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
-[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag

-[X] Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.

With the new info on how long EPC will take and the fact that Zhengui is still not hibernating, I'm ok with holding off 8fold until around Week 34-35. We'll just do it the opposite way around - a 3x skyblood (fz, fsa, as) first.

We'll need to do a mission beforehand to secure the sect points for tutoring for 8fold - and I'm ok with doing a mission instead of Sun Liling - but I'm a bit queasy to not at least find out what Sun Liling has been up to for weeks now, especially with the Yan Renshu incident last week. If we do a mission instead, I'm likely to pick the forest shrine mission to close out the investigations mission. We sorta ... exploded the problem last time. It'd be nice to see the aftermaths and actually put the spirits to rest. :( Plus, TRF could use all the help it can get if we find a wood site, and it'll probably fulfill the stealth EPC bonus.

EPC with Vent because Vent is "any," but Meizhen and GF are "Arts." AM works with Meizhen - we both have it - and TRF with GF because it makes sense to use a group art with a group.

Before we start spending time with Cai and GG to check them out, I'd rather talk with Meizhen first so that there's no misunderstandings. Suyin should be done asap because the longer we wait, the longer before Suyin can start bonding with her spirit. Also, if we don't do Suyin's minor, we won't get the formation book minor back for Vault Warrior. Trying to figure out formations on the last bag so we can see if there are any major pills in it that we'll want for any upcoming weeks pre-breakthrough. Han Jian trade so we can finally figure out what meridians we need for AS.

I chose TRF and AM over FZ because both will require dedicated actions to cap it (and one doesn't benefit from 8fold) and we're getting to the point where they'll take up another meridian. I want to know what meridians we need to have opened BEFORE we do our meridian week (Highsun with meridians). I'm also hopeful that if FZ requires another meridian for FZ4, training it on a Skyblood week will give us enough overflow to open that meridian, which would save an action.

My tentative thought is Week 32 - meridian week - and Week 33 - skyblood (winds). Then hopefully we'll be set for Week 34 8fold/Skyblood.
 
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I'm not convinced that we should start hanging out with Cai before we talk to our friends.

That might just be me though.
 
Are we allowed to overflow to physical? If so, it might be wise to start overflowing to that, as we are kinda set for Qi for now.

[X] Plan Find Meridians
 
[X] Plan Find Meridians

Has Sun Liling scouting and Shaman Bag.
Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Nov 5, 2017 at 2:24 PM, finished with 35697 posts and 29 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Surprise! I'm secretly invincible!
    -[X] Resources: Clear Wind Pill, Vigorous Sapling Pill, White Hart Elixir, Second Level Wood Pill 1 YSS, 3 RSS (Total Cost: 29 RSS)
    -[X] EPC Bonus Successes: Eight Phase Ceremony
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Minor: You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
    -[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
    --[X] Fleeting Zephyr
    --[X] Minor: Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
    -[X] Scout out Sun Liling's base of operations
    -[X] Minor: Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
    -[X] Minor: Find the time for a chat with Guangli, even if he is biased, he's probably the one who knows Cai best
    -[X] Minor: Spend some time around Cai Renxiang, what does she actually do all day
    [X] Plan Find Meridians
    -[X] Resources: 3x RS, 1x YS, Rippling Lake Pill (2), Stalwart Mountain Pill (2), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), 2nd Level Pills for Lake + Mountain + Wood (18)
    -- [X] Restock Restoratives: 2x Wellspring Pill (6), 1x Spirit Restoration Pill (15) (Total: 21)
    -[X] Overflow: Qi
    -[X] EPC Bonus: EPC
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] EPC
    --[X] Training is nice, but you'd like to get to be better friends with Su Ling, perhaps you could see if she has any interest in music?
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] AM
    --[X] You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
    -[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
    --[X] TRF
    -[X] Scout out Sun Liling's base of operations
    -[X] Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
    -[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
    -[x] Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
    [X] Plan The Dark Storm
    -[X] Use: 3 RS; 1 YS
    -[X] Buy: Clear wind Pill (2); Vigorous Sapling Pill (2); White Hart Elixir (6); 2nd level wood pill (6); total (1 YS, 19 RS)
    -[X] EPC Bonus: EPC
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Train TRF
    --[X] Training is nice, but you'd like to get to be better friends with Su Ling, perhaps you could see if she has any interest in music?
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] EPC
    --[X] You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
    -[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
    --[X] FZ
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    -[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
    -[X] Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
    -[x] Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
    [X] Spend some time around Cai Renxiang, what does she actually do all day
    -[x]Take her shopping. Her and Bai clearly get along, so it behooves you to as well. You'll make Cai your friend even if it kills you
 
With the new info on how long EPC will take and the fact that Zhengui is still not hibernating, I'm ok with holding off 8fold until around Week 34-35. We'll just do it the opposite way around - a 3x skyblood (fz, fsa, as) first.

If you are saying that you want to use skyblood without Eighfold, that's rather foolish, given than eightfold amplifies the skyblood bonus.

Ideally we want to use skyblood and eightfold together in a week with AE/AS/FSA/FZ/AM/AC
 
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If you are saying that you want to use skyblood without Eighfold, that's rather foolish, given than eightfold amplifies the skyblood bonus.

We have 2 Skybloods and 1 Eightfold.

Its impossible to use 2 Skybloods with our Eightfold.
Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Nov 5, 2017 at 1:06 PM, finished with 35652 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Surprise! I'm secretly invincible!
    -[X] Resources: Clear Wind Pill, Vigorous Sapling Pill, White Hart Elixir, 1 YSS, 3 RSS (Total Cost: 23 RSS)
    -[X] EPC Bonus Successes: Eight Phase Ceremony
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Minor: You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
    -[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
    --[X] Fleeting Zephyr
    --[X] Minor: Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
    -[X] Scout out Sun Liling's base of operations
    -[X] Minor: Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
    -[X] Minor: Find the time for a chat with Guangli, even if he is biased, he's probably the one who knows Cai best
    -[X] Minor: Spend some time around Cai Renxiang, what does she actually do all day
    [X] Plan Find Meridians
    -[X] Resources: 3x RS, 1x YS, Rippling Lake Pill (2), Stalwart Mountain Pill (2), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), 2nd Level Pills for Lake + Mountain + Wood (18)
    -- [X] Restock Restoratives: 2x Wellspring Pill (6), 1x Spirit Restoration Pill (15) (Total: 21)
    -[X] Overflow: Qi
    -[X] EPC Bonus: EPC
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] EPC
    --[X] Training is nice, but you'd like to get to be better friends with Su Ling, perhaps you could see if she has any interest in music?
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] AM
    --[X] You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
    -[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
    --[X] TRF
    -[X] Scout out Sun Liling's base of operations
    -[X] Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
    -[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
    -[x] Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
    [X] Plan The Dark Storm
    -[X] Use: 3 RS; 1 YS
    -[X] Buy: Clear wind Pill (2); Vigorous Sapling Pill (2); White Hart Elixir (6); 2nd level wood pill (6); total (1 YS, 19 RS)
    -[X] EPC Bonus: EPC
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Train TRF
    --[X] Training is nice, but you'd like to get to be better friends with Su Ling, perhaps you could see if she has any interest in music?
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] EPC
    --[X] You need to speak with Meizhen, about Cai's offer and the future in general
    -[X] Train with the Golden Fields Group
    --[X] FZ
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    -[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
    -[X] Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin
    -[x] Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics.
    [X] Spend some time around Cai Renxiang, what does she actually do all day
    -[x]Take her shopping. Her and Bai clearly get along, so it behooves you to as well. You'll make Cai your friend even if it kills you
    -[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag: nope ? i mean it should be formation
    -[X] Go on a trip to the spiders nest with Li Suyin: definitively nope
    -[X] Trade techniques with Han Jian, you can help each other work out the basics:nope
 
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