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[x][BUILD] Plan 2320 C: 2 Excelsior-A Refits, 1 Renaissance, 4 Centaur-Bs, 3 Centaur-B Refits, 1 Freighter
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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And with putting the thumb screws on the Cardassians, the Orion lady running around, the Horizon doing Horizon things and who knows, perhaps a spill-over from the Klingon-Romulan war, fleet actions aren't exactly unlikely.
Forgothrax
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With the new Centaur-B and upcoming Generalist Frigate the Rennie is only really superior in combat, and it's got a punishing crew cost to do that. I would recommend to slow production to a trickle for now and wait a few years, using saved resources and crew for Keplers, Ambys, and some CBs. Arrays will likely be available earlier than expected due to new Prototyping mechanic and a refit Rennie should be doable immediately with some significant boosts (depending on how things are decided, -1 O/E +1 CSHLD is possible). Restart Rennie production after the refit becomes available.
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That is a perfect plan if we don't need Rennies in the next few years.
Forgothrax
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We are scheduled, looking at the sheet, to have 18 of them once all current builds complete. That's more of any ship other than the Excelsior, and only by a margin of 2. Methinks that's enough for a ship that we basically keep around for second-tier response and fleet combat. We need more CBs and Generalist Frigates because we need a good sized pool of skirmishers.
Many years, to the point where it might be a Light Explorer instead.
On the other hand, the Centaur-B are a stopgap measure themselves, until we can get the new Generalist frigate out.
I wish there was a build-plan option for two Renaissances plus a freighter and at least three new frigates, but failing that I do like Plan C.
Part of the reason I want more Reneissance in the fleet is because I'm worried about the Constitution-Bs getting overage and starting to have trouble-it's a design without much possibility for future refits, and we know that some of them have older parts. When they start to drop out of formation, we'll need something to pick up the slack.
Part of the reason I want more Reneissance in the fleet is because I'm worried about the Constitution-Bs getting overage and starting to have trouble-it's a design without much possibility for future refits, and we know that some of them have older parts. When they start to drop out of formation, we'll need something to pick up the slack.
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The difficulty is my desire not to delay Kepler production or Ambassador production down the line. All three berths in SF need to be producing the same ship type to take advantage of parallel production.
I could get you a plan that does two Renaissances, 3 Centaur-Bs, and a cargo ship (rather than a freighter). If you're really enthused, I'll whip it up as a quick Plan F.
Forgothrax
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It's going to be a light Explorer. Benefits of a cruiser are fairly minimal at this time.
New Generalist is an incremental upgrade and an upgraded hull for later refit. It's going to be +1 HLD over the CB unless we want to jack up costs significantly. CB will still be sufficient for backup and Garrison purposes since the New Generalist is mostly going to be more useful for combat.
Fifteen for current Renaissance builds, actually.
Thors_Alumni
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[X][BUILD] Plan 2320 F: 2 Excelsior-A Refits, 2 Renaissance, 3 Centaur-Bs, 3 Centaur-B Refits, 1 Cargo Ship
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Is the ETC incorrect, or is this berth open?
My records show the ETC is incorrect, and the cargo ship actually finishes in 2320.Q2.
ATTENTION:
I have added a "Plan F" vote option that is balanced. 2 Rennies, 3 Centaur-Bs, and 1 cargo ship.
We actually do need cargo ships as well as freighters.
I have added a "Plan F" vote option that is balanced. 2 Rennies, 3 Centaur-Bs, and 1 cargo ship.
We actually do need cargo ships as well as freighters.
[][BUILD] Plan 2320 F: 2 Excelsior-A Refits, 2 Renaissance, 3 Centaur-Bs, 3 Centaur-B Refits, 1 Cargo Ship
- SF Berth A (3mt) – Berth free 2320.Q1. In 2320.Q2, commence Centaur-B build using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2322.Q1)
- SF Berth 1 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q1. In 2320.Q2, commence Centaur-B build using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2322.Q1)
- SF Berth 2 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q1. In 2320.Q2, commence Centaur-B build using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2322.Q1)
- Oreasa Starfleet Berth 1 (1mt) – Building Renaissance (ETC 2321.Q3)
- Oreasa Starfleet Berth 2 (1mt) – Building Cargo Ship (ETC 2321.Q3)
- 40 Eridani Berth A (3mt) – Berth free 2320.Q4. Leave empty.
- 40 Eridani Berth B (3mt) – Berth free 2320.Q4. In 2320.Q4 commence Starfleet Cargo Ship (ETC 2322.Q4)
- 40 Eridani Berth 1 (1mt) – Building Renaissance (ETC 2321.Q1)
- 40 Eridani Berth 2 (1mt) – Building Kepler Prototype (2322.Q2)
- Ana Font Berth A (2.5mt) – In 2320.Q1 begin refit of Voshov to Excelsior-A (ETC 2321.Q1)
- Ana Font Berth 1 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q2. In 2320.Q2 Renaissance build. (ETC 2323.Q2)
- Ana Font Berth 2 (1mt) – Building Renaissance (ETC 2322.Q2)
- LOCF Berth A (2.5mt) – In 2320.Q1 begin refit of Salnas to Excelsior-A (ETC 2321.Q1)
- LOCF Berth 1 (1mt) – Building Renaissance (ETC 2321.Q2)
- Intazzi Shipyard Berth A (3mt) – Building super-freighter (ETC 2321.Q2)
- Intazzi Shipyard Berth 1 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q2. In 2320.Q2 commence Reniassance build (ETC 2323.Q2).
- Intazzi Shipyard Berth 2 (1mt) – Building Cargo Ship (ETC 2321.Q2)
- UP Berth A (3mt) – Building Excelsior-A using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus and 1qt off build time from Admiral Sirvk bonus. (ETC 2321.Q1)
- UP Berth B (3mt) – Building Ambassador prototype as dual build using Chen's bonus. (ETC 2321.Q4)
- UP Berth C (3mt) – Building Excelsior-A using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus and 1qt off build time from Admiral Sirvk bonus. (ETC 2321.Q1)
- UP Berth D (3mt) – Building Ambassador prototype as dual build using Chen's bonus. (ETC 2321.Q4)
- UP Berth E (3mt) – Building Starfleet Hospital Ship (ETC 2321.Q2)
- UP Berth Z (2mt) – Building Centaur-A using using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2321.Q2)
- UP Berth Y (2mt) – Building Centaur-A using using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2321.Q2)
- UP Berth 1 (1mt) – Building Renaissance using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2322.Q1)
- UP Berth 2 (1mt) - Building Renaissance using 'parallel construction' industrial park bonus. (ETC 2322.Q1)
- UP Berth 3 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q4. In 2320.Q4 commence refit of just launched UP Berth 3 Centaur-A to Centaur-B. (ETC 2321.Q4)
- UP Berth 4 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q4. In 2320.Q4 commence refit of just launched UP Berth 4 Centaur-A to Centaur-B. (ETC 2321.Q4)
- UP Berth 5 (1mt) – Berth free 2320.Q4. In 2320.Q4 commence refit of just launched UP Berth 5 Centaur-A to Centaur-B. (ETC 2321.Q4)
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i really don`t know what a better or worse plan at this point
Thors_Alumni
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Do we have the extra resources for a super freighter?
It's more about the berth space. I don't want to tie up one of our 3mt yards for 4 years to build a super-freighter, but next year (2321) we can put a super-freighter in a 2mt berth.
