Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

We're probably not going to be able to trade AC.

I mean we just offered AC to our allies without asking Xiulan's permission. What's stopping her from offering it to her liege without asking our permission?

Point.
We can still trade AM, though.

I think it would be still worth it - not being able to get arts reliably is a weak point of Ling Qi, and Argent Arts were very much worth it, so far, as well as being complimentary to other arts.
 
I think it would be still worth it - not being able to get arts reliably is a weak point of Ling Qi, and Argent Arts were very much worth it, so far, as well as being complimentary to other arts.

We have a lot of arts already.

I mean, i don't mind listen to the offer and maybe he got something amazing for us, but i doubt it.
 
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[X] Plan Formation Synergy and Appealing to Jiao
-[X] Resources: 1 yellow stone, 3 red stones, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8) - total (1 yellow, 11 red stones)
-[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
-[X] Train with Elder Jiao (LOCKED)
--[X] Larceny / SCS
--[X] Formations
--[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
-[X] Train with Meizhen
--[X] TRF
-[X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
-[X] Mission : Totem Repair
-[X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
-[X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.

So the overall goal of this plan is the potential of formation synergy, and via doing so, appealing to an Elder of the Sect who has in the past proposed an apprenticeship and with whom we have several connections with his wife through both our Moon Patron and via learning music arts from Zeqing which is a friend of hers.

Jiao's formation knowledge should be applying to many things within this action plan which is why it's so good this turn, and as has been demonstrated it seems to be a subject he enjoys teaching. In order;
  1. just in general via teaching us and improving our skill,
  2. and related to the above, we are currently studying a formation manual so we'll get a bonus towards understanding it, and potentially start learning it depending on how Yrsilar decides he'll structure the update narratively. This is particularly true given what was discussed in the previous formation lesson,
  3. thirdly via working out the formations on the last bag which should yield a great reward given the difficulty. There's another consideration too and that this is third week so it's necessary to open the bag this week so we even have the option of using one of Jiao's actions on whatever's within (and in general it's likely he'll provide clues or tell us what it is if it's unusual, which is an obvious bonus),
  4. fourthly is because I'm taking the Totem Repair mission this turn. I've been wanting to do it for a while for both storytelling reasons andso we can apply our four dot skill more widely and this is a great opportunity to learn to do so.
  5. and finally, because we'll be assaulting Yan Renshu's base this turn given we already know where it is. Given it's his main base it's naturally going to have more skilled defences that'll include formations, and this is going to be even truer given one of his bases has just been raided.
The only action that's likely slightly concerning to voters is the lack of a Gu Xiulan one; but it was a choice of her one or the Zhengui one, and I rate the latter one more highly because honestly I like him more, this action improves his skill growth, and because he's our spirit animal and under our care. Gu Xiulan in comparison has done the dissappearing thing before, and has support bases elsewhere particularly in her sister. Really we already know what she's been up too given what she's done in the past, and that's gone training to improve her skills and her own spirit. I'd also kind of like her to seek out Ling Qi narratively, instead of the other way around.
 
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Bai had, I think, eight? And suggested we should have similar amount.
We are slowly getting there, but we do not have too many yet.
We have a firm 7. FVM, SCS, TRF, FZ, AM, AC, FSA. Getting Yan Renshu's art is going to be 8. Trading for another argent art is going to be 9. So we are on the path to having 9 arts, and then there is any possibility of an art in the Shaman's bag. We could have 10 arts before breaking through to green.
 
A great update (other than that ridiculously bad FVM roll :cry:1​). Xin and Jiao are awesome, and the pill furnace was hilarious. Also really love Xuan Shi in this update. He and Ling Qi seem more comfortable with each other now, and he was much more charming. Xuan route is clearly a go :D

1​ The odds of getting that few successes is ~2%. As p<0.05 I reject the null hypothesis that we had 80 dice, and the theory that we're good at FVM :p

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Now, I don't mind Plan Search and Destroy, but to make life difficult I'll just throw in an alternative here. Following @Thor's Twin I feel that doing the job here could be a good idea - but the big thing here is not doing the argent trade with Han Jian. As we do really want to talk to Han Jian this week, I've swapped it for last week's minor. So, for those people who didn't want to do the trade, but do want to talk to Han Jian, here's a plan for you.

[X] Plan The Third Option
-[x] 3 RS, 1 YS, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 YS, 27 RS)
- [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
-- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
- [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
-- [X] Larceny / SCS
-- [X] Investigation / AM
- [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
-- [X] TRF
-[X] Take a Mission
--[X] Capture the Storm Spirits

- [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
- [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
- [X] Have a chat with Han Jian, it has been some time since you trained together, see what is occupying him
 
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We have a firm 7. FVM, SCS, TRF, FZ, AM, AC, FSA. Getting Yan Renshu's art is going to be 8. Trading for another argent art is going to be 9. So we are on the path to having 9 arts, and then there is any possibility of an art in the Shaman's bag. We could have 10 arts before breaking through to green.

I think 10 is an acceptable maximum.

And if there are only 4 Argent Arts having all four is bound to be worth it.
 
[X] Plan Boundaries
-[X] 3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 yellow stone, 27 red stones)
- [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
-- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
- [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
-- [X] Larceny / SCS
-- [X] Investigation / AM
- [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
-- [X] Heart Meridian
- [X] Train with Meizhen
-- [X] TRF
- [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
- [X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
- [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?

Basically this is Katreus' plan Search and Destroy, but with Li Suyins minor instead of Xiulan.

Reasoning not to do Xiulan: basically, I think the best thing to do here is give her some more space. Just because she's apparently moved back into her home, doesn't mean she necessarily wants to be around people. I'm hoping it'll be better if she comes out on her own, though I'm not sure. We'd probably know more if we took Jian's action last week, but that's hindsight speaking.

Li Suyins I took because I don't want to see her for a week then drop her now we're done. Building some continuity over weeks seems like a better idea.

If nothing else, it's an alternative to Katreus' plan.
 
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[X] Plan Search and Destroy

I'm fine with switching the meridian opening to something else, preferably searching for Sun (although a sect mission would also be good), but the meridian also works for me. The main thing is that this plan needs to add pill and stone usage.
 
At @Erebeal and @Karnax626

Pill suggestions for your plans

3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 yellow stone, 27 red stones)
 
[X] Plan Hunting Storms
-[X] 3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), (1 YS, 27 RS)
- [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
-- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
- [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
-- [X] Larceny / SCS
-- [X] Investigation / AM
- [X] Train at the vent with Meizhen
-- [X] TRF
- [X] Take a Sect Mission.
--[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
- [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
- [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
- [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?

Search and destroy with a sect mission instead of a Heart meridian. We can use the points to get tutoring during Sable week. I consider this much more efficient.
 
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Alright...

@Katreus

Pill suggestion for your plan!

3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 yellow stone, 27 red stones)
 
[X] Plan Search and Destroy

I'm fine with switching the meridian opening to something else, preferably searching for Sun (although a sect mission would also be good), but the meridian also works for me. The main thing is that this plan needs to add pill and stone usage.

I was waiting on shop update before adding them. I'll be adding them later.

Alright...

@Katreus

Pill suggestion for your plan!

3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 yellow stone, 27 red stones)

Thanks. I copy and pasted it into a notebook so I'll have easy access to it when I add the pills.
 
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->No Han Jian
->No vote from me
Why would I take it this turn, given I don't see a reason he'd be willing to trade arts with us this week but not next week? The bag and the manual I rate more highly due to their relation to formations and it being the core of my plan, and Zhengui should benefit from us taking the action this turn rather than later on given he'll be growing again soon.

There's also the fact that a new argent art will require 2 new meridian's which I'm not taking this turn, and can be taken next.

You can attach Xuan Shi minor to Zengui and add another minor.
I already have 3 minors; unlocking the formation bag attached to Jiao, Xuan Shi and Zhengui, and deciphering the manual with Li Suyin. The fourth minor action is being locked due to Jiao's training.
 
Why would I take it this turn, given I don't see a reason he'd be willing to trade arts with us this week but not next week? The bag and the manual I rate more highly due to their relation to formations and it being the core of my plan, and Zhengui should benefit from us taking the action this turn rather than later on given he'll be growing again soon.

There's also the fact that a new argent art will require 2 new meridian's which I'm not taking this turn, and can be taken next.


I already have 3 minors; unlocking the formation bag attached to Jiao, Xuan Shi and Zhengui, and deciphering the manual with Li Suyin. The fourth minor action is being locked due to Jiao's training.
...because it's been several weeks since we even talked to him? That's the main reason Search and Destroy is running away with it right now, most of us don't even care about the trade(though we won't mind if it's something good).
 
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