Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

Just to point out, we just stole over 500 red stones from that base. 500. We haven't seen that many red stones since we got here. We are doing pill weeks for the foreseeable future, because dang if that isn't a lot of money.

Plus the pill furnace. That thing is expensive.

Back in inestigations, we could have took a talisman up to 250 stones in price, which is what Su Ling did. I suspect that her furnace cost was more or less the max of that so 200-250 stones if cost or so.

But this is a Large pill furnace, meant to be used by a whole base. So probably at least double that, another 500 RS or so of cost. Maybe more.

Man Renshu is gonna be pissed.
 
Do note that this loot was the result of THREE turn actions, though. We had one action to follow their physical trail on Week 26, one action to follow the economic trail on Week 27, and one action to actually rob them blind this turn.
Yeah, three actions for 500+ stones and 15 sect points, as well as advancing relationship with Cai/advancing moon quest.

I think it's well worth it, as at worst it means 200stone/action, and that's probably around what we can expect. (and I consider the sect points worth more than just stones).
 
Do note that this loot was the result of THREE turn actions, though. We had one action to follow their physical trail on Week 26, one action to follow the economic trail on Week 27, and one action to actually rob them blind this turn.
Also diminishing returns. They're going to learn to protect their wealth better by using sentries and powerful elites acting as treasuries soon. This is good for Cai, since all these precautions cost them resources and time to implement and maintain, but I expect Formation traps to become much more significant in the next raid, and the one after...well best bring some artillery along.

Nailing down unattended furnaces may be involved too.
 
Passive Effects:
-Provides two three additional dice to all projectile weapon attacks.
-Provides two three additional dice to defense against projectile attacks.
-Increases the initiative of the user and all allies within forty meters by one three
-Increases the speed of the user and allies within forty meters by two
-Increases maximum range of all projectiles to twenty-five thirty meters if less

Active Effects
Against the Wind: oo
Cost: 4 Qi
On a successful clash reduces the dice pool of enemies within thirty forty meters by two for the next three clashes four turns. In addition enemy speed is reduced by three five. Effect persists after enemies leave range. Effect may be used without a weapon attack.

Encircling Winds
: oo
Cost 4 Qi
The user grants allies alacrity and and accuracy, perfecting their timing to strike in an encircled foes weakness. Grants a four die bonus to the attack of all allies when targeting a singular foe, designated at activation. Each consecutive attack gains a stacking damage bonus of one, to the maximum of their weapons DV.

Shielding Gale: oo
Cost: 5 Qi
Instant
The user releases a sudden pulse of qi in an expanding spiral around themselves, kicking up furious winds. Provides three dice of defense against projectile attacks targeted at allies or the user within thirty forty meters. As a secondary effect, on a successful clash, all enemies adjacent to the user are pushed back ten fifteen meters, suffering a DV 1 attack. Effects last for two turns.

On the Wind: ooo
Cost 6 Qi
Instant
The user guides the wind to bolster her allies movements, granting an additional five speed and two initiative to the user and allies within forty meters for two turns. In addition speed or initiative dampening effects of two dots or lower are dispelled on a successful clash.
So, a general overview of our changes:
  • We get +1 to ranged attacks. We also get +1 to defense against the same.
  • We increase speed and initiative by +2 each, for both us and our allies.
  • Our minimum projectile range is increased from 25 to 30. The ranges on Against the Wind and Shielding Gale are increased from 30 to 40.
  • Against the Wind decreases speed 3 -> 5, lasts for 4 turns instead of 3 clashes, can be used without a weapon, and persists after enemies get out of range.
  • The knockback on Shielding Gale goes up from 10 to 15.


Furthermore, we have two new techniques.
  • Encircling Winds is a "mark target" type effect, where everyone can be super-effective against a single target for a turn. This is absolutely ABSURD in team fights, at least if people can get away from their own fights for a moment to focus on a given enemy. It also lets us make weaker cultivators considerably more useful for a turn, with a numerical advantage quickly becoming a really big deal. It also costs considerably less than I would have expected, sitting at only 4 Qi.
  • On the Wind is a speed/initiative booster. We use it if we need everyone to get the hell out of dodge, ESPECIALLY if we are being bogged down by hostile speed-reducing effects. Rather expensive for casual use at 6 Qi, and a speed boost of 5 isn't exactly a gamechanger, but could save our butts if we have to use it while running away with a group.
 
I support this plan, but could you change the Heart meridian with AC? I think is time to have a look at it.

I would prefer to open the heart meridian now... so that when we use 8 fold next week, we'll automatically be able to equip AC as we train it (8 fold procs a meridian roll that we can use for arm). I just think we're so behind on opening meridians. It's not sexy, but if we get Han Jian's art through the trade, we'll be 3-4 behind in present needs with yet another 2+ meridians required for art upgrades coming up shortly thereafter.
 
Still worth it. We probably got more loot in this event chain then we have earned since the start of the quest.

Yeah, three actions for 500+ stones and 15 sect points, as well as advancing relationship with Cai/advancing moon quest.

I think it's well worth it, as at worst it means 200stone/action, and that's probably around what we can expect. (and I consider the sect points worth more than just stones).
Oh, it is absolutely, unquestionably worth it. I'm just saying the payoffs aren't as obscene as they would be for a single-turn mission.

Really, I think that the value we got out of this is probably worth as much as five or six actions, which means we got double our action's worth; a tidy profit in return for the risk involved. But we didn't get six times what our time was worth, which is all I was pointing out. :)
 
  • Encircling Winds is a "mark target" type effect, where everyone can be super-effective against a single target for a turn. This is absolutely ABSURD in team fights, at least if people can get away from their own fights for a moment to focus on a given enemy. It also lets us make weaker cultivators considerably more useful for a turn, with a numerical advantage quickly becoming a really big deal. It also costs considerably less than I would have expected, sitting at only 4 Qi.
Also the first time we break this out on Sun in the next group brawl we're going to SO eat focus fire in return because holy shit.
On the Wind is a speed/initiative booster. We use it if we need everyone to get the hell out of dodge, ESPECIALLY if we are being bogged down by hostile speed-reducing effects. Rather expensive for casual use at 6 Qi, and a speed boost of 5 isn't exactly a gamechanger, but could save our butts if we have to use it while running away with a group.
Uh, as far as I'm aware a speed boost of 5 is a solid +1/3 to +1/4 speed boost for most of the people we know. It's proportionately minor for the already very fast Ling Qi...but I suspect it might be almost double for Zhengui.
 
I would prefer to open the heart meridian now... so that when we use 8 fold next week, we'll automatically be able to equip AC as we train it (8 fold procs a meridian roll that we can use for arm). I just think we're so behind on opening meridians. It's not sexy, but if we get Han Jian's art through the trade, we'll be 3-4 behind in present needs with yet another 2+ meridians required for art upgrades coming up shortly thereafter.

Well, i don't think we are so far behind, and i don't want to trade anyway.
 
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I would prefer to open the heart meridian now... so that when we use 8 fold next week, we'll automatically be able to equip AC as we train it (8 fold procs a meridian roll that we can use for arm). I just think we're so behind on opening meridians. It's not sexy, but if we get Han Jian's art through the trade, we'll be 3-4 behind in present needs with yet another 2+ meridians required for art upgrades coming up shortly thereafter.
I would also prefer not to open the meridian now, and pretty strongly so. I much prefer our meridian opening to come on the Sable Light week, when we can leverage it into extra meridians opened instead of points just going to overflow.

In fact. Can we take a mission this turn? We are going to need those points if we want to do the Sable Light combo on week 31; right now, we don't have enough to pay for the tutor.
 
I would also prefer not to open the meridian now, and pretty strongly so. I much prefer our meridian opening to come on the Sable Light week, when we can leverage it into extra meridians opened instead of points just going to overflow.

In fact. Can we take a mission this turn? We are going to need those points if we want to do the Sable Light combo on week 31; right now, we don't have enough to pay for the tutor.

I thought we were planning to do Sable Light after we pushed up our own meridian count so that we wouldn't waste it on easy meridians? I'm ok with a mission or even doing a search for Sun Liling too this week, but we keep dropping the number of meridians we're ok with doing Sable Light for.

I think we started at suggesting we'd do Sable Light at 30 meridians to 25 and now, we're what, around 15? This is really a waste of a Sable Light pill and TBH, I never expected to use Sable Light at Week 31. There's no need to rush it when we're probably going to see if we can rush EPC 4 too before breakthrough.
 
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I would also prefer not to open the meridian now, and pretty strongly so. I much prefer our meridian opening to come on the Sable Light week, when we can leverage it into extra meridians opened instead of points just going to overflow.
I think we can't reliably get extra meridian with tutors unless we don't open any with eightfold pills, and even if we do it would just be one.

I am not a big fan of opening a meridian, but I am not against it either, especially considering we have 1AM, 1FSA, 3AC, 2Yan Renshu, 3Han Jian coming in fairly soon, and more from TRF and so on.
 
Love the update, particularly the interactions she has with spirits.

Hopefully we can bond more with the icy ms yandere and maybe her kid again too. Xin scenes were excellent and I hope we can now act more informally and honestly with our tutor. Probably get far more out of it and increase his opinion of us.

Awkward friendships are awkward. Yikes. Worship, unease and formality, and lingering discomfort combined with best snek being stolen away from us!

Hope we can mitigate Cai's influence on our friend, or better still help them actually bond because they might have a lot in common they can help each other deal with. Right now I worry about what exactly goes on in their meetings.

Nice loot but good lord are they going to come after us. Hope our friends and stuff survive intact! Not liking this month of hibernation, nope.
 
I thought we were planning to do Sable Light after we pushed up our own meridian count so that we wouldn't waste it on easy meridians?
No, definitely not.

First of all, Sable Light week doesn't actually help us with difficult meridians. I mean, we are getting a total of five points above what we could get without the Sable light pill; hardly a deciding factor. In contrast, if we really want to push meridians, we can take tutoring for a +15 boost; that is what we are going to want to use for getting the hard-to-reach final meridians.

Second of all, that delays us getting more than 5 bonus qi for a long time. That is painful.

Third of all, it means that we have to do a lot of guessing. Right now, if we did a Sable Light Week and opened 7 meridians, we could grab:
  • Arm (AC1)
  • Heart (AC1)
  • Arm (FSA5)
  • Spine (AM5)
  • Spine (TRF?)
  • Heart (TRF?)
  • Heart (FZ?)
In fact, if we finish the Grinning Moon quest quickly enough, we might get another art and replace some of those question-marks.
In contrast, if we tried to push our meridians, we would maybe open 4 more meridians now. Sure, two of them are filled by the Grinning Moon reward art, but we don't know about the last ones. That is a problem, since we might end up opening the wrong thing. Better to take the Sable Light Pill to open the more knowable meridians and save the rest for when we know what is going into them.
 
[X] Plan Search and Destroy
Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Oct 14, 2017 at 7:21 PM, finished with 173 posts and 29 votes.

  • [X] Plan Search and Destroy
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    -- [X] Heart Meridian
    - [X] Train with Meizhen
    -- [X] TRF
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    - [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?
    [X] Plan Hunting Storms
    -[X] 3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), (1 YS, 27 RS)
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Meizhen
    -- [X] TRF
    - [X] Take a Sect Mission.
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    - [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?
    [X] Plan New Moon to Full Moon
    -[X] Resources: 1 yellow stone, 3 red stones, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), Gushing Spring Pill (2), Flowing Rivers Pill (6), total (1 yellow, 19 red stones)
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    --[X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    -[X] Train with Elder Jiao (LOCKED)
    --[X] Larceny
    ---[X] SCS
    --[X]Resolve
    -- [X] TRF
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] FVM
    -[X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    -[X] Take a Mission
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    -[X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    -[X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
    [X] Plan The Third Option
    -[x] 3 RS, 1 YS, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 YS, 27 RS)
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    -- [X] TRF
    -[X] Take a Mission
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    - [X] Have a chat with Han Jian, it has been some time since you trained together, see what is occupying him
    [X] Plan Boundaries
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    -- [X] Heart Meridian
    - [X] Train with Meizhen
    -- [X] TRF
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
    - [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?
    [X] Plan everything and sharing
    -[X] Resources: 3 RS, 1 YS, 1 qi expansion pill (inventory), Black ichor, Gushing spring pill (2), Flowing Rivers Pill (6), White Hart Elixir (6), 1st level Wood pill (2), 2nd Level wood Pill (6), 1 Steady Growth Pill (8), 1 Sturdy Oak Pill (18), 1 Qi Sea Pill (25) = 1 YS, 76 RS. (Change 1Y to 10R).
    -[X] Major Actions
    -[X] Spend time taking care of and raising Zhengui
    -[X] Train with Elder Jiao (LOCKED)
    --[X] Larceny
    ---[X] SCS
    --[X] Throwing knives
    ---[x] ZB+ (Take from archive)
    -[X] Train with Zeqing
    -[X] Infiltrate Yan Renshu's hideout
    --[X] Do it on your own.
    ---[X] But tell Meizhen where we're going, so if we don't back she knows where to drop the hammer
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[x] TRF
    --[X] Share AC with Su Ling
    --[x] You haven't had much time for Li Suyin lately, and you have a mysterious tome, maybe the two of you could work on deciphering it?
    ---[X] Share the contents with Li Suyin
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[x] Xuan Shi seems to be busy setting something up at the council meeting pavilion, perhaps you could help him out?
    --[X] Meizhen is going out shopping for something at the market, though she hasn't mentioned what. Tag along?
    [X] Plan Search and Destroy With AC
    [X] Plan Formation Synergy and Appealing to Jiao
    -[X] Resources: 1 yellow stone, 3 red stones, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8) - total (1 yellow, 11 red stones)
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train with Elder Jiao (LOCKED)
    --[X] Larceny / SCS
    --[X] Formations
    --[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[x] TRF
    -[X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    -[X] Mission : Totem Repair
    -[X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
    -[X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.

Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Oct 15, 2017 at 12:48 AM, finished with 32911 posts and 35 votes.

  • [X] Plan Search and Destroy
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    -- [X] Heart Meridian
    - [X] Train with Meizhen
    -- [X] TRF
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    - [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?
    [X] Plan Hunting Storms
    -[X] 3 red stones, 1 yellow stone, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), (1 YS, 27 RS)
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Meizhen
    -- [X] TRF
    - [X] Take a Sect Mission.
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    - [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?
    [X] Plan Boundaries
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    -- [X] Heart Meridian
    - [X] Train with Meizhen
    -- [X] TRF
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
    - [X] Meet Han Jian, he found a trial, so perhaps you could set up a trade for another Argent Art?
    [X] Plan The Third Option
    -[x] 3 RS, 1 YS, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 YS, 27 RS)
    - [X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -- [X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    - [X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    -- [X] Larceny / SCS
    -- [X] Investigation / AM
    - [X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    -- [X] TRF
    -[X] Take a Mission
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    - [X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    - [X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    - [X] Have a chat with Han Jian, it has been some time since you trained together, see what is occupying him
    [X] Plan New Moon to Full Moon
    -[X] Resources: 1 yellow stone, 3 red stones, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), Gushing Spring Pill (2), Flowing Rivers Pill (6), total (1 yellow, 19 red stones)
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    --[X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    -[X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    --[X]Larceny
    ---[X]SCS
    --[X]Resolve
    -- [X] TRF
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] FVM
    -[X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    -[X] Take a Mission
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    -[X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    -[X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
    [X] Plan Formation Synergy and Appealing to Jiao
    -[X] Resources: 1 yellow stone, 3 red stones, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8) - total (1 yellow, 11 red stones)
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    -[X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    --[X] Larceny / SCS
    --[X] Formations
    --[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] TRF
    -[X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    -[X] Mission : Totem Repair
    -[X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
    -[X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    [X] Plan I have a Dream! And I wish to share!
    -[x] 3 RS, 1 YS, 1st and 2nd level wood pills (8), 1 rippling lake pill (2), 1 stalwart mountain pill (2), 1 2nd level lake pill (6), 1 2nd level Mountain pill (6), total (1 YS, 27 RS)
    -[X] Spend time working with Zhengui to express his abilities
    --[X] Xuan Shi seems pretty knowledgable, see if he can help you out with Zhengui's abilities.
    -[X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
    --[X] Larceny / SCS
    --[X] Investigation / AM
    -[X] Train at the vent with Meizhen
    --[X] TRF
    -[X] Take a Mission
    --[X] Capture the Storm Spirits
    -[X] Search out Yan Renshu's main base, before he has time to pick up and move
    -[X] Gu Xiulan apparently returned in the dead of night without saying anything to anyone. What happened to her?
    -[X] Working with Li Suyin again has been fun, continue working through the manual
 
Honestly, I would cut out the Sun Liling action. We are on the hunt for Yan Renshu right now, and after this base was sacked, he is going to be nervous and jittery. He'll be moving people around trying to hide the bases, and we want to find the bases before he has a chance to do that.

All in all, Sun Liling is not the major concern right now. If we cut off her supplies by taking out Yan Renshu it will slow her down something terrible.

Sun 'what are you babies whining about sleeping outside? The trees here don't try to eat your soul' Liling is unlikely to be directly adversely affected by the loss of Yan Renshu material support.

It would probably hit her lesser hanger ons hard, but I doubt the core members of her group will just give up. Having no material support and being cracked down by authority is literally how her grandfather started his rebellion in the first place.
 
In future if we have time we might be able to sow dissension in their ranks by doing what we basically did under the elders instruction to them.
 
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