Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

It's more that "We asked Meizhen if she was okay sharing AM first. We probably shouldn't share AC unless Xiulan gives the okay"

Things like this are how you start problems.

Then we should ask Xiulan permission for sharing Argent Current too. And we didn't share it freely, we exchange it. Naturally we'll share the result of transaction too.
 
-User adds five dice to their first offensive clash pool if attacking first
-User adds three dice to all offensive clashes against unaware targets. Does not stack with first strike bonus
@yrsillar Is the first line a permanent Sneak Attack of sorts, as King as we act first in a turn we get five dice to attack?

Or are the numbers flipped? Or is the latter supposed to be sux?
[] Meizhen is going out shopping for something at the market, though she hasn't mentioned what. Tag along?
I'm going to fight for this.
 
I wonder if our spirt can damage things that are typically immune to poison? It sounds like the damage comes as much from the liquid being superheated than anything, I suspect a lot of poison protections would not help with that.
 
No, it makes sense.

If Ling Qi launches the first move in an encounter, she gets +5 dice.

But after the battle is joined, and she breaks contact again, her next offensive clash does three dice.

But it means that if you start a battle from stealth, you don't get +8 dice.
 
-[] Argent Current
--[] Overflow to arm meridian

Alright, here is the basic framework of my plan. The point of this is to get AC up and running as quickly as possible. This also gives a plan for people who want to give AC to Li Suyin and Su Ling. Nothing fancy, just getting the meridians out of the way. I don't know what melee weapon we will be using, and I don't particularly care to argue it. We will see what it wants when we unlock it.
There is not going to be Overflow from Argent Current, overflow only happens when we are blocked from advancing, and we have all the necessary meridians needed for that.

As for the training itself, I would suggest it being either a 'War' training, or a 'Melee' training. Given we can't agree on what weapon to train, War is probably best.

Also, reminder that Elder Jia is a blade specialist.
I don't want to ask for backup. Since both of our options here are high profile people who are almost certainly under near constant surveillance, for them to be in any position to back us up, they'd arouse suspicion, and potentially increase security. Remember, our goal isn't to wreck Yan Renshu, it's to lift a particular set of objects and get the fuck out. Ideally, we just do a reconnaissance and figure out what we need to launch the op.

I also don't want to randomly hand out Argent Current either. We weren't the only one who was involved in getting it, and Xiulan probably gets a say in the matter too.

Additionally, I'd like to hold off on the Black Ichor Elixir for now, at least until we've had a chance to study the Journal. A Death Art could be a huge trump card if the journal contains one, as it's a Rare Element.
I agree about Meizhen because Stealth missions sounds fun as heck.

Argent Current is really really good for Su Ling, and she expressed a desire for exactly this kind of art. Considering she isn't a rival for Gu Xiulan, and we have priority over her for the art, this should not be an issue... but asking Xiulan should be done regardless.

Black Ichor Elixir must be used this week. We are getting FVM5 week 30 with eightfold pill, so even if we do find a new death art in shaman bag (and we would need to open the last slot I think) we would still only have 2 darkness/death art. If we don't, we would have just 1.

So, it needs to be used this week.
 
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Hrm, fair enough. I can accept using BIE in that context then.

I'm going to draft a plan. It's probably going to look a lot like Mountain's 11 though.
 
You know what, I'll just quickly make a plan. Note I'm not filling out the medicine right now because I'm tired and that's fiddly. I'll do it tomorrow morning when I'm up for fiddly things. This is just a map of major's and minors.

[X]Plan Plumb the Darkness
-[X] Resources: 3 RS, 1 YS, all Darkness, Wood, Water, and Fire pills available, Soul Concentrating Elixir.
-[X] Major Actions
--[X] Train with Elder jiao (LOCKED)
---[X] Formations
----[X] Try to figure out the locking formations on the last bag
---[X] Larceny
----[X] Sable Crescent Step
--[X] Train with Zeqing
--[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
---[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
--[X] Train with Meizhen
---[X] Argent Current
----[X] Share it with her.
--[X] Infiltrate Yan Renshu's hideout
---[X] Ask Meizhen to back you up
-[X] Minor Actions
--[x] You haven't had much time for Li Suyin lately, and you have a mysterious tome, maybe the two of you could work on deciphering it?
--[x] Xuan Shi seems to be busy setting something up at the council meeting pavilion, perhaps you could help him out?
 
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Ugh.

Mountain's 11 is pretty good--my draft was nearly identical to it so I discarded it, my bottom line though is that Meizhen and CRX are too high profile to be brought in on a sneaking mission though. And that inviting them is liable to have the defenses brought up when they realize "Oh shit we lost track of them bunker up boyz"
 
Considering SCS is an art Elder Jiao knows himself, and that we can use it to increase Larceny too, I think we really should be training it with Elder Jiao.
 
I'd prefer Xuan Shi to Han Jian, honestly.
I suspect the book is a death art. It just makes sense to me. @yrsillar, is it intentional that we have no action to investigate the Pale Tome?
Yeah, I agree here. It absolutely sounds like one.
Oh for the love of

That is such a "I am TOTALLY straight I swear, yes that's me definitely 100% straight" fronting answer

Someone secure with themselves wouldn't feel that way =/
Oh @Spectrum , we are together in seeing this ship set sail.
Since both of our options here are high profile people who are almost certainly under near constant surveillance
I disagree Meizhen wouldn't notice Extended surveilance on her person and that she wouldn't be able to avoid it.

You are implying some other Outer Disciple can perfectly spy on both her and CRX at any and all times. Which includes their training time.

So yeah, I doubt that.

Besides, while Stealth Missions are fun, imagine the loot we can get by metaphorically gunning down everyone. Meizhen and Cui can certainly help with that, and is so loaded she wouldn't mind.
We weren't the only one who was involved in getting it, and Xiulan probably gets a say in the matter too.
We did Xiulan a favour. A big one, in bringing her there.
 
Well. Yes. I'm assuming a veteran, Third Realm Cultivator who's already shown the ability to operate remotely is going to have the ability to spy on young Third Realm Cultivators, if that's his field of expertise.

The goal of the Yan Renshu op isn't to smash and grab him and everything. It's to get the book and the slip, and use the book to our advantage.

Bringing Meizhen with the idea of wiping everyone out would have been fine... If we were taking the Bloody Moon Quest.
 
Considering SCS is an art Elder Jiao knows himself, and that we can use it to increase Larceny too, I think we really should be training it with Elder Jiao.

Eh, sure.

Ugh.

Mountain's 11 is pretty good--my draft was nearly identical to it so I discarded it, my bottom line though is that Meizhen and CRX are too high profile to be brought in on a sneaking mission though. And that inviting them is liable to have the defenses brought up when they realize "Oh shit we lost track of them bunker up boyz"

Disagree. We're still a support character, and this mission isn't just to steal something, it's also to put the fear of Cai into them. Some fun bonding over violence, along with bringing the kind of hammer good for violence, seems like the best plan. They can't skedaddle that fast because honestly they're going to be losing track of Meizhen all the time. You don't get to spy on someone 24/7.
 
Eh, sure.



Disagree. We're still a support character, and this mission isn't just to steal something, it's also to put the fear of Cai into them. Some fun bonding over violence, along with bringing the kind of hammer good for violence, seems like the best plan. They can't skedaddle that fast because honestly they're going to be losing track of Meizhen all the time. You don't get to spy on someone 24/7.

Do we know how scrying works? We do know that plenty of dudes on this mountain have really good intelligence and don't seem to need to tip off that they're watching in the process.

Bringing someone who is certainly on the shortlist for "People I want to keep an eye on" is a very good way of risking them raising the defenses in earnest. And that's dangerous because you don't fight a Formation Specialist on their home turf unless you're planning to bleed.

Yan Renshu is not our primary target. He's one of many, and we'd do a lot more damage by discreetly nabbing the blackmail material than we would be bringing down a hammer.
 
Do we know how scrying works? We do know that plenty of dudes on this mountain have really good intelligence and don't seem to need to tip off that they're watching in the process.

Bringing someone who is certainly on the shortlist for "People I want to keep an eye on" is a very good way of risking them raising the defenses in earnest. And that's dangerous because you don't fight a Formation Specialist on their home turf unless you're planning to bleed.

Yan Renshu is not our primary target. He's one of many, and we'd do a lot more damage by discreetly nabbing the blackmail material than we would be bringing down a hammer.
I do believe you are doing the "too smart for your own good" thing that got us in the trial.

Meizhen isn't dumb, or even uninformed. As soon as we describe the mission and target, she will pull out herself if need be. I trust her to know better.

I'd rather not fight a Third Realm and a dozen Yellow cronies in his home turf by ourselves. It's asking to get beaten and looted.
 
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Do we know how scrying works? We do know that plenty of dudes on this mountain have really good intelligence and don't seem to need to tip off that they're watching in the process.

Bringing someone who is certainly on the shortlist for "People I want to keep an eye on" is a very good way of risking them raising the defenses in earnest. And that's dangerous because you don't fight a Formation Specialist on their home turf unless you're planning to bleed.

Yan Renshu is not our primary target. He's one of many, and we'd do a lot more damage by discreetly nabbing the blackmail material than we would be bringing down a hammer.

Yeah, you're assuming a munchkin level of competence and preparation here, the level a good GM won't let anyone have. As @TotallyNotEvil put it, you're overthinking it.
 
She is insecure about sex and relationship in general. That's a big theme with Ling Qi, how she constantly thinks men are out to rape women, and so on. This is why Huang Da is talked about more than anyone else in her letters to her mom.
Wouldn't characterize it that way. Huang Da totally is a sketchlord and deserves any sort of characterization that way.
 
Oh for heaven's sake, not this nonsense again where I make a single not even confirmed yet mistake, and then people start dismissing anything else I say.

It's too late in the evening for this nonsense.
 
Wouldn't characterize it that way. Huang Da totally is a sketchlord and deserves any sort of characterization that way.
I am not saying he doesn't. But Han Jian? Her immediately asssuming the Great Spirit was looking to abuse that other Great Spirit in the lore dump? Her constantly being afraid of men and sexuality in general?

Half the reason the Meizhen stuff went so badly is because it made Ling Qi realises she couldn't be safe with women either.
I do believe you are doing the "too smart for your own good" thing that got us in the trial.

Meizhen isn't dumb, or even uninformed. As soon as we describe the mission and target, she will pull out herself if need be. I trust her to know better.

I'd rather not fight a Third Realm and a dozen Yellow cronies in his home turf by ourselves. It's asking to get beaten and looted.
Meizhen isn't dumb, but she has agency and different goals than we do. She would be looking to punish Yan Renshu's group and bloody them, not looking to steal a book and a jade slip.

Likewise, there is no "too smart for our own good" thing that got us in the trial.
 
Oh for heaven's sake, not this nonsense again where I make a single not even confirmed yet mistake, and then people start dismissing anything else I say.
I'm not saying that, I saying that I do believe you are overthinking the situation.

It sounds highly unlikely they'd be on Red Alert 24/7, surveiling CRX and Meizhen and who knows whom else everywhere, all the time, and assume that their super secret, magically warded base that is only known to a selected, trusted few and uses multiple proxies for its supplies has been compromised and is about to be suffering from a bad case of Snek if he loses track her for a few minutes. For one, he isn't tireless, and can't sit around and play NSA all day long.

The might be good, but that's just our paranoia at that point.
 
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Yeah, you're assuming a munchkin level of competence and preparation here, the level a good GM won't let anyone have. As @TotallyNotEvil put it, you're overthinking it.

I'm not so sure about that. He's assuming that they are keeping an eye on two of there more powerful enemies. It wouldn't have to be some sort of super scrying, it could be as simple as a mostly uninvolved student who gets a pile of stones a week for sending a signal when they go somewhere.

They might not be, but keeping at least a limited eye on one of those two is well within the bounds of what we could expect a reasonably skilled opponent could do.
 
I'm not so sure about that. He's assuming that they are keeping an eye on two of there more powerful enemies. It wouldn't have to be some sort of super scrying, it could be as simple as a mostly uninvolved student who gets a pile of stones a week for sending a signal when they go somewhere.

They might not be, but keeping at least a limited eye on one of those two is well within the bounds of what we could expect a reasonably skilled opponent could do.
Yes, that works as a way to collect juicy gossip and keep abreast of the who' who with the firsties. Not real-time, 24/7 surveillance as has been implied.

Who is to say Meizhen and Ling Qi going into the forest isn't yet another of their training sessions?

Assuming a messenger is faster than us. Or his spies even capable of noticing we were gone.

Not taking our bestest, strongest friend over this is pure paranoia. And we reall need to bond over some violence and loot.
 
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I'm with Alectai on Yan Renshu. Don't know for sure how extensive his surveillance network is (if it exists), but I prefer a Stealth mission over fighting our way in anyway. Fits better with the Grinning Moon.
I'd rather not fight a Third Realm and a dozen Yellow cronies in his home turf by ourselves. It's asking to get beaten and looted.
But we wouldn't be fighting them? We'd be solid snaking it.
 
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