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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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Neshuakadal said:
To me these choices have nothing about yin or yang levels or are willingness to help our friends but rather how much information we want or need before we act.
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I suppose it's not clear but I really do think the listen and plan option literally means listening before making a further move. It means getting more information and reacting to it whereas running means proactively doing all we can to help.

People who don't like Cai will likely vote for the talking option but I don't think that means it's inherently disloyal to Cai. I agree it just means getting information Ling Qi desperately wants (as said in the last paragraph of the update) before she acts but I think that can be referred to as a yin aligned option.
 
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EDIT: Tie-chan! You're back!
Adhoc vote count started by Kai Merah on Aug 13, 2017 at 10:05 AM, finished with 27948 posts and 75 votes.
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[x] She has outright said that she is here to stall you. Escape and join back up with as many of your friends as you can manage. Even if it means dealing with her two lackeys too.
 
[X] She wants to talk, then she can talk. You'll listen and plan.

I don't feel we're committed to rush to the rescue of the regime at great personal risk here when our direct allies aren't endangered. Cai already should have expected shit like this to happen, and taken measures against.
 
[X] She has outright said that she is here to stall you. Escape and join back up with as many of your friends as you can manage. Even if it means dealing with her two lackeys too.
 
Arkeus said:
So, coming back to Fu Xiang for a bit.

Now, for those who missed it, Counts are Violet-ranked, and are just below dukes usually, which are the governors of a province. So, huh, I am not sure if he was trying to lay the praise a bit thickly there, or if he was trying to screw us over. I think it's the former. Probably.

Still, given how...off... Ling Qi is about 'what is considered normal', it's very possible he did take advantage of her naivety.
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A count is below a marquis, which is below a duke. It goes baron -> viscount -> count -> marquis -> duke, IIRC. By that scale, a count would be a mid-level noble.
 
[X] She has outright said that she is here to stall you. Escape and join back up with as many of your friends as you can manage. Even if it means dealing with her two lackeys too.
-[X] Tell her we'll have to postpone your talk before escaping.
 
Tie-chan! :)
Adhoc vote count started by Grigori on Aug 13, 2017 at 11:21 AM, finished with 27955 posts and 81 votes.
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I love how Tie-chan is holding steady right now. Keep on, Tie-chan! I believe in you!

EDIT: I wonder what yrsillar will do if Tie-chan is still around when vote locks. I don't think that's ever happened before, has it?
 
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Tensiv said:
do you mean cai or someone else?

Because we have no information what happened just that sun liling And cai should be fight where and who support sun liling is something we don't now

We just now that we surrounding from 3 people and one is at least in the green stage
And have at least one spirit maybe all three have one


Yay have finally found out how quotes works
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Killer_Whale said:
We've been told Bai isn't (currently) in danger, and she's emphasized that her word is important to her, so if we listen, we may be able to get the game plan and better help Bai later.
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We do not know if Bai is in danger or not.
We only have been told that Liling does not plan to attack Bai currently... and this information is worth nothing if Bai decides to participate in the battle herself, which is quite probable.

Sun Liling had to plan for Bai involving herself.

And again, if our visitor wanted to talk to us and to convince us to stand down, she should have come with an offer earlier, an hour would have been enough.
 
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The talk option implies we can have a chance to plan our escape when doing so, but I bet Song will be more annoyed at us if we stab her in the back to escape rather than escape immediately.

Personally I don't care much for Cai and her regime, the only reason I'm voting to support her is because the alternative vote for inaction strengthens Sun Liling and we want to keep her down.
 
PrimalShadow said:
The Run option implies that we have a good chance to successfully carry out our escape, but I bet Song has contingencies to prevent that.
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I don't disagree there and I'd dearly love to stab Song in the back when we chat her up, then make our escape. I just don't feel like SV will vote to do that to someone strong that seems fairly amiable towards us for an enemy.
 
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PrimalShadow said:
The Run option implies that we have a good chance to successfully carry out our escape, but I bet Song has contingencies to prevent that.
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We do have a good chance. Not a certain chance, but a good one. The terrain is ideal for us and we specialize in Darkness, amongst other things. If Song's contingencies are really so thorough, I doubt making small talk is going to help us.
 
PrimalShadow said:
It won't help us escape, sure. However, it WILL help us not get beaten up, gain a new contact, and get a new perspective on the politics of what is going on.
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I disagree on principle with that. Prioritizing a new contact and maybe a smidgen of information over helping Bai and Gu, our housemate and sort of best friend? Nope.
 
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Delcer said:
Personally I don't care much for Cai and her regime, the only reason I'm voting to support her is because the alternative vote for inaction strengthens Sun Liling and we want to keep her down.
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Actually, is there that strong of a need to try and suppress Sun Liling? Unless the girl gets kicked out of the sect or stasis'd, she's almost certainly going to be a strong contender for #1 in the tournament regardless of how 'suppressed' she is - while Ling Qi will probably work hard to hold a place in the top half (there's just too much ground to cover to make it likely at present). While Liling sees Ling Qi as a hazard (at least to her current anti-Cai plans), she seems to mostly just want good fights.

It's uncertain how much of her fight with Meizhen is institutional hatred of Bais and how much is "she's one of the ones that could give me a good fight" (Hell, Cai Renxiang was apparently on her way to challenge Meizhen to a fight as well, I'd note). She doesn't really look like the type to really want to suppress those that don't submit to her (on the contrary, she seems like she'd get bored if there was nobody suitable to fight).

Really, aside from her challenge to the "student government", and the potential need to occasionally need to fight/heal up after a fight for Meizhen and Qi, there's not actually much need for Ling Qi to see Sun Liling "kept down". Ling Qi's concern comes more from *other* avenues - people who are looking to suppress potential rivals. Kang Zihao comes to mind, although his power base and confidence has been severely eroded (even in a no-Cai scenario, I'm not sure how much he'll be able to recover that)... maybe Mr. Smugglasses if he's the treacherous sort (although he's apparently production path and thus not in direct competition). Older disciple factions other than Chu Song's are a question mark - and Song herself doesn't look like the type to try suppression as a first choice tactic.
 
[X] She has outright said that she is here to stall you. Escape and join back up with as many of your friends as you can manage. Even if it means dealing with her two lackeys too.
 
Delcer said:
IMO yes, because Meizhen seems to despise her and while we remain friends with Meizhen, they're going to be at each other's throats. I'd rather not take the risk of letting Sun Liling even an inch of success when we can act to prevent it.
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I don't think we can actually stop her though, given how she doesn't even need to be present for everything to line up in her favor.
 
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