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Thor's Twin said:
I like the concept of the idea, but I feel hesitant to help people get stronger with those drugs. The drugs are amazing and it will help us out, but it will help out anyone who has the medicine more than us (simply for the fact that they get two and we get one). Furthermore, the only people who would have it are the people who were able to pass Zhou's second test, which means they are the closest to us in terms of direct competition.
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Each pill gives a little over 1 action, whereas 6 pills (two from each token, with us taking the third) give a bit over 6 actions worth. That is slightly more than the benefit of an extra week.

Do you really think that our rivals are close enough that an extra week is going to make a difference one way or another?


Aside from that - those people hadn't even broken through until after Cai's first meeting at the earliest. Are we seriously considering them as rivals? I'm pretty sure we've left them all very much behind by now.
 
You know what?

People making plans, like @PrimalShadow, it would be great to finally meet Gan Guangli. We aren't sure of our 4th minor, and we are seeing Cai anyway. Let's make it happen. It's MUSCLE WEEK?
 
Ling Qi writing music to express how she feels has me torn. Wriiting music for someone can be interpreted as being romantic after all and I don't want to pour salt in that wound.

On the other hand,I think it's something that would really help Ling Qi do something she really enjoys again, and really express the soul of how we feel better then just words. As we had failed with words.

Whatever the decision though we should first give Bai Meizhen a few weeks space.
 
Arkeus said:
I don't like Xuan Shi right now and would prefer more Li Suyin as we are wary of her boss and I'd prefer having a foundation with moon before talking to him again.
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A couple of people have expressed that sentiment, so I think I'll be changing it unless people start speaking up in the other direction.

Arkeus said:
I'd also prefer SCS to FSA because I consider getting to SCS4 more urgent, but I can see why people would want FSA given the pill synergy.
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How likely are we to make SCS3 in two actions? Because if we can do it, I wouldn't necessarily mind switching.

Arkeus said:
EDIT: Also, come in discord.
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Sorry, but I definitely don't have time for that. This forum eats enough of my time as it is.
 
PrimalShadow said:
A couple of people have expressed that sentiment, so I think I'll be changing it unless people start speaking up in the other direction.


How likely are we to make SCS3 in two actions? Because if we can do it, I wouldn't necessarily mind switching.


Sorry, but I definitely don't have time for that. This forum eats enough of my time as it is.
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I'm pro-talking with someone who actually knows what they're talking about, it's in my plan as well. On the other hand, I'm making my own plans, so... *shrug*
 
PrimalShadow said:
A couple of people have expressed that sentiment, so I think I'll be changing it unless people start speaking up in the other direction.


How likely are we to make SCS3 in two actions? Because if we can do it, I wouldn't necessarily mind switching.


Sorry, but I definitely don't have time for that. This forum eats enough of my time as it is.
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Xuan Shi is a good option. He helped us with formations and he can inform us about the moon. Li Suyin has her own stuff, and I do think that Ling Qi at this point is extremely nosy. Suyin has told us before she isn't a child to be coddled, so I think we should trust that she's got her own stuff handled.
 
Meizhen, nooo!!! :cry::cry:

*sniffle* At least we have our adorable baby to ease the sting... Should we actually give each head a different name? Ling Ko can be the snake head, and Bixi can be the tortoise head.
 
I am actually okay with Gan Guangli as our last minor. It's been ages since we last interacted with him, and he's cool.
 
Ok, so I'm not optimizing for spiritual cultivation here - I'm doing it, but I'm not buying all the drugs. It's just too expensive. We can cultivate it slow burn. I want to quickly pick up an art that energizes with our new friend, as I suspect that's part of deepening the bond, and will help with our rearing actions. We also need to earn back some sect points.

Wow. When we aren't buying all that new medicine, our expenses plummet. 28 Red Stones. That's less then half as many.

I'm going with Regents for our job, as I'm liking connecting with the inner sect, and any place that has special interesting regents might very well have special interesting sites or opportunities.

[X] Plan Adoratortoise needs hugs badly
-[X] Use 2 Red Spirit stones, 1 Yellow Spirit Stone
-[X] Buy and use Gushing Spring Pill (2 Red Spirit Stones), Soul Concentrating Elixir (8 Red Spirit Stones), Flowing Rivers Pill (6 Red Spirit Stones)
-[X] Major Actions
--[X] Visit the Archive
---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
---[X] Search for a technique
----[X] Ideally fire-(Moon/Heaven/Sun) or wood-(Moon/Heaven/Sun). Just fire or wood is fine though.
--[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
---[X] Spiritual
--[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
---[X] FVM
--[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
-[X] Minor Actions
---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future

Edit: Miscounted. Putting off job till next week.

[X][Name] Ling Wu
 
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TheLastOne said:
Ok, so I'm not optimizing for spiritual cultivation here - I'm doing it, but I'm not buying all the drugs. It's just too expensive. We can cultivate it slow burn. I want to quickly pick up an art that energizes with our new friend, as I suspect that's part of deepening the bond, and will help with our rearing actions. We also need to earn back some sect points.

Wow. When we aren't buying all that new medicine, our expenses plummet. 28 Red Stones. That's less then half as many.

I'm going with Regents for our job, as I'm liking connecting with the inner sect, and any place that has special interesting regents might very well have special interesting sites or opportunities.

[X] Plan Adoratortoise needs hugs badly
-[X] Use 2 Red Spirit stones, 1 Yellow Spirit Stone
-[X] Buy and use Gushing Spring Pill (2 Red Spirit Stones), Soul Concentrating Elixir (8 Red Spirit Stones), Flowing Rivers Pill (6 Red Spirit Stones)
-[X] Major Actions
--[X] Visit the Archive
---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
---[X] Search for a technique
----[X] Ideally fire-(Moon/Heaven/Sun) or wood-(Moon/Heaven/Sun). Just fire or wood is fine though.
--[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
---[X] Spiritual
--[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
---[X] FVM
--[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
--[X] Take a job
---[X] Acquire Reagents
-[X] Minor Actions
---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
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I think you need to include a [] name vote too for the spirit. Otherwise I like it a lot.

All the Adoratortoise. My heart needs sweetness after Meizhen!
 
Thor's Twin said:
The problem with this is that Argent Genesis is given out to Inner Sect Disciples, and we don't know how else to get it. I have the feeling that we won't be able to find it ourselves before the tournament, and I don't think any of the elders will give it to us before we become inner disciple sect members. I would love to have Argent Genesis before the tournament, but I just don't think that it will be possible.
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hmm...

Can we request Argent Genesis as the topic of tutoring from Elder Ying?

Probably not, but might be worth it to ask.
 
So, votes. The way I see it, we have particularly little leeway with two important unique options up.

We need vent for weekly AM upgrade. We need Meizhen for social with no dedicated minor action, and we probably want Han Jian as well for training. Cai's meeting isn't skippable and Xiulan looks shiny. With the plan for Han Jian being pretty interesting looking, it makes sense to include that.
That gives us an outline of:

[] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
[] Visit the Archive
-[] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
[] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
-[] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
-[] Topic
[] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
-[] Topic
[] Train with Bai Meizhen
-[] Topic

[] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
[] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
[] Extra social, any of the remaining options.

Notably, folding the given Han Jian social action into our preset stuff moves the one where we actually have room to choose by itself and frees any need to try to fit our other actions around that.

In this sense, we have 3 free training topics and one social action of any type to decide between.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jul 26, 2017 at 5:51 PM, finished with 481 posts and 58 votes.
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    [X] Plan Focus on Fundamentals
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir + Flowing Rivers Pill + Gushing Spring Pill + Clear Wind Pill + Bright Sky Pill + Soaring Spirits Pill (26 RSS)
    -[X] Direct overflow to Qi
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    ----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    --[X] FSA
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] [name] Zhengui
    [X] Plan Back to the Basics
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir (8) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) (16 RSS)
    -[X] Direct overflow to Qi
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    ---[X] FVM
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    --[X] SCS
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    -[X] Continue swinging by the medicine hall to have lunch with Li Suyin, you'd like to make sure she's still doing well
    [X] Plan All-Encompassing Shadows
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir + Flowing Rivers Pill + Gushing Spring Pill (16 RSS)
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    --[X] SCS
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    -[X] Speak with Gan Guangli, it can't hurt to get to know him better, and you can see how things are going for Cai's group
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X][Name] Ling Wu
    [X] Babytortoise Must Grow Larger!
    [X] [Name] Xìnlài
    [X] [Name] Ling Ling
    [X] [Name] Reliance
    [X] Plan Adoratortoise needs hugs badly
    -[X] Use 2 Red Spirit stones, 1 Yellow Spirit Stone
    -[X] Buy and use Gushing Spring Pill (2 Red Spirit Stones), Soul Concentrating Elixir (8 Red Spirit Stones), Flowing Rivers Pill (6 Red Spirit Stones)
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    ----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
    ---[X] Search for a technique
    ----[X] Ideally fire-(Moon/Heaven/Sun) or wood-(Moon/Heaven/Sun). Just fire or wood is fine though.
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    -[X] Minor Actions
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] [name] Dong Fu Junior
    [X][Name] Ling Ko
    [X] [Name] A'Tuin
    [X] Plan Seduce the muscle wizard
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir + Flowing Rivers Pill + Gushing Spring Pill + Clear Wind Pill + Bright Sky Pill + Soaring Spirits Pill (26 RSS) Total: 38 Spirit Stones
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    --[X] FSA
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    ---[X] FVM
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    -[X] Speak with Gan Guangli, it can't hurt to get to know him better, and you can see how things are going for Cai's group
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] [name] Méitàngūi
    [X] [name] Potato
    [X] Babytortoise Must Grow Larger!
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Acquire Reagents:
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    -[X] Speak with Gan Guangli, it can't hurt to get to know him better, and you can see how things are going for Cai's group
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] [name] Turtle head : Xia | Dragon head : Long | Complete name : Xiaolong
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[X] Plan Focus on Fundamentals
-[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
-[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir + Flowing Rivers Pill + Gushing Spring Pill + Clear Wind Pill + Bright Sky Pill + Soaring Spirits Pill (26 RSS)
-[X] Direct overflow to Qi
Major Actions
-[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
--[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
-[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Spiritual
-[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
--[X] FSA
Minor Actions
-[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
-[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
-[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future

This is the plan to move forward with all the things we know we need to keep doing, without getting distracted by other things. Learn what is going on with EPC, and ask for advice from someone who might give us another perspective (Xuan Shi). Advance FVM, continuing what we started last week and synergizing with Spiritual. Grab FSA3, which we can do in one turn, giving us a noticible combat boost for very little time commitment. Talk to the SLs that are asking for our time. Raise our Spirit companion.
 
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TheLastOne said:
--[X] Visit the Archive
---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
---[X] Search for a technique
----[X] Ideally fire-(Moon/Heaven/Sun) or wood-(Moon/Heaven/Sun). Just fire or wood is fine though.
--[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
---[X] Spiritual
--[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
---[X] FVM
--[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
--[X] Take a job
---[X] Acquire Reagents
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  1. EPC research
  2. Search for a technique
  3. Spiritual
  4. FVM
  5. Spend time on your new spirit
  6. Take a job
Too many actions, there.
 
Dammit, @Shadell, save us and do a plan that will have Gan Guangli :(

Though I AM tempted by having less training actions this week in order to get a sect mission in, realistically we can't not have Li Suyin/Bai Meizhen/Han Jian because of social reasons, and EPC is at the archive. Xuanwu is a lock too.
 
[X] Plan Focus on Fundamentals

Has everything I want.
Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Jul 24, 2017 at 3:09 PM, finished with 26279 posts and 25 votes.
  • [X] Plan Focus on Fundamentals
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir + Flowing Rivers Pill + Gushing Spring Pill + Clear Wind Pill + Bright Sky Pill + Soaring Spirits Pill (26 RSS)
    -[X] Direct overflow to Qi
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    ----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    --[X] FSA
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] Plan Back to the Basics
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir (8) + Flowing Rivers Pill (6) + Gushing Spring Pill (2) (16 RSS)
    -[X] Direct overflow to Qi
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    ---[X] FVM
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    --[X] SCS
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    -[X] Continue swinging by the medicine hall to have lunch with Li Suyin, you'd like to make sure she's still doing well
    [X] [name] Zhengui
    [X][Name] Ling Wu
    [X] Babytortoise Must Grow Larger!
    [X] Plan Adoratortoise needs hugs badly
    -[X] Use 2 Red Spirit stones, 1 Yellow Spirit Stone
    -[X] Buy and use Gushing Spring Pill (2 Red Spirit Stones), Soul Concentrating Elixir (8 Red Spirit Stones), Flowing Rivers Pill (6 Red Spirit Stones)
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    ----[X] Continue getting to know Xuan Shi, he was a helpful and reasonable sort
    ---[X] Search for a technique
    ----[X] Ideally fire-(Moon/Heaven/Sun) or wood-(Moon/Heaven/Sun). Just fire or wood is fine though.
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    -[X] Minor Actions
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] Babytortoise Must Grow Larger!
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] FVM
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Acquire Reagents:
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    -[X] Speak with Gan Guangli, it can't hurt to get to know him better, and you can see how things are going for Cai's group
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
    [X] [Name] Reliance
    [X] [name] Potato
    [X] Plan Seduce the muscle wizard
    -[X] Use from inventory: 2 RSS, 1 YSS
    -[X] Buy and use: Soul Concentrating Elixir + Flowing Rivers Pill + Gushing Spring Pill + Clear Wind Pill + Bright Sky Pill + Soaring Spirits Pill (26 RSS) Total: 38 Spirit Stones
    --[X] Spend time researching and rearing your new spirit.
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Research the moon element and the phase spirits(counts as cultivation of EPC)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    --[X] FSA
    ---[X] Han Jian seems to be planning something, perhaps you can see if you can help?
    -[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
    ---[X] FVM
    ---[X] Gu Xiulan seems awfully smug about something, and has dropped hints that she wants to go out together, indulge her.
    -[X] Speak with Gan Guangli, it can't hurt to get to know him better, and you can see how things are going for Cai's group
    ---[X] Cai Renxiang has put out notice for a proper second meeting to discuss the future
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