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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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Alright, I am super glad that we have the arts to choose from, and what arts they are! I'm going to look more closely at all of them before I make my pick, but it will be interesting to add these arts to our style of combat.
 
I am very wary of relying on getting the heaven site for upgrading falling stars. I highly doubt we are anywhere near ready to actually take the site, there are just too many tier twos. I can see the argument for getting it second, but I would not want to tie it to that specific site.
 
[X] Ashen Shadow Art
I like the fire elements of this one, and keeping our hands free. It's not like we're locked into this art forever - we'll eventually be replacing most of these lower arts - but right now, hands-free is too important.
 
Ling Qi's current bonuses synergize significantly with Ice Wraith:
  • Wind Techniques require ten fewer successes after initial mastery
  • +4 dice to training of arts which use spine meridians.
  • Growing Cavern: +5 to cultivation of Earth, Mountain and Water arts.
  • Spammable because our water qi discounts
  • Usable with knives, our highest mastery weapon.
 
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Remember, that this is our first arm art. We can pick up a second, so while falling stars looks shiny, I think we can wait until we claim that site.

Ice Wraith Art comes with physical defenses, which we currently lack, so it fills two fuctions, allowing burst damage to put enemies down faster after being put in FVM in 1vs 1 and providing us defense beside our large Qi reserves

[] Ice Wraith Art
 
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Falling stars appeal to me aesthetically, and they are a direct damage art - something Ling Qi needs pretty strongly.

That said, considering FVM requires a flute to be used, it has no synergy whatsoever with main combat art she already has. Which is not good.

Same goes for the Ice Wraith, tbh.
 
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[X] Ashen Shadow Art

I kind of find the thematic interesting. We started out with Bei being the character we interacted with the most, and our first offensive art was a shadow water one. We've befriended Xuilan, and now might pick up a shadow fire one(if this does not pick up a darkness meridian later on, I will be shocked). I kind of like the idea of our arts being reflections of our friends.
 
[X] Falling Stars Art

I want Ashen Shadow later though

veekie said:
....holy shit, she flipped the fuck out and tortured the spirit to death?!
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Yes? Cui even said as much and I had a whole post at the time analyzing that.

PrimalShadow said:
A relationship and a friendship aren't mutually exclusive, but nevertheless a platonic friendship and a friendship+relationship have notable differences, and there aren't merely the latter being "more" than the former.

Right now, the update suggests that (at least by our standards) Meizhen needs to learn to trust someone and to learn to let herself trust someone. In light of this, I think that a platonic friendship is a significantly better fit for her needs. Adding romance into the mix would make the friendship much more vulnerable to betrayal or the perception of betrayal, neither of which is really conducive to get Meizhen to stop thinking that no, everyone will betray her eventually.

More broadly, romance complicates everything. A lot of times, we should be willing to accept this complexity because the experience is worth it - but this is one of those cases where it isn't.
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Keyword there is right now :p
Arkeus said:
I'll bring up the various quotes:




Gu Xiulan's family is about raiding and stealing and expanding back their power. Bai Meizhen dislikes some part of it as uncouth, but that is in part due to her own father, and in part because she is more direct.

This is not gentle people who think that the first person to touch something owns it. They don't mind Cai Renxiang flat out saying that might make rights, and have shown again and again that they would do the same. Some of them like Gu Xiulan are only not bandits because they are strong enough to say they are not bandits, and some other like Bai Meizhen are only not bandits because they have been strong enough to define bandits as "people who are not us".

Han Jian would feel worse about attacking a resource from someone else rather than defending one, most probably, but he would only feel worse insofar as that's not optimal, and not anything more than that.
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*facepalms* mercantilism not mercenary.

One is trading and selling goods, the other is fighting someone's battles for a price

Mr.rodent said:
Honestly tho I'd go with ashen as our second before ice , for the sake of our Lil turtle but then again we can probably get more arts that are better suited for us with different meridians , we don't really need that many attack arts currently , but we could use some more exotic or buffs/debuffs since it's our specialty and we only really have a few
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Kai Merah said:
... Damn, I am torn between Falling Stars and Ashen Shadow, but Ice Wraith looks really good too for the strengthening and damage absorption.

That said, Falling Stars is the pure damage art. No question. I really like the sheer piercing power of it, but I'm not so keen on how we don't have a good cultivation site or a good weapon for it.

Ashen Shadows though... Ashen Shadows is fantastic. Synergizes with us so good. We hit with shadow ash instead of needing to put down our flute. We can do extra blinding. We can put extra ash constructs in our mist. It is six levels compared to five levels for everything else.

I propose we take Ashen Shadows now, since we know it'll take longer to learn, then come back and grab Falling Stars later, when we have appropriate gear and a cultivation site for it.

[x] Ashen Shadow Art

EDIT: Also, think of our baby Adortoise! He needs a nice warm meridian to snuggle in!
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*sighs* Turtle stays in our Dantian not Meridians.

Diomedon said:
Remember, that this is our first arm art. We can pick up a second, so while falling stars looks shiny, I think we can wait until we claim that site.

Ice Wraith Art comes with physical defenses, which we currently lack, so it fills two fuctions, allowing burst damage to put enemies down faster after being put in FVM in 1vs 1 and providing us defense beside our large Qi reserves

[x] Ice Wraith Art
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Except the point of getting the arm art is for damage plus FSA uses our bow instead of the Polearm like ISA and it has armour piercing plus it screws with the enemies qi.
 
Just to comment I think that we should pick up Falling stars either now or next time, besides all of the power reasons, because it is a Yang art. We are starting to get dangerously overbalanced one way in my mind and I'd like to correct that.

(still need to finish reading the quest before I really vote, so I'll just put down my opinion)
 
Hrm. Like most of you, I like Ashen Shadow Art and Falling Stars Act the most. ASA might benefit from the adortortoise, we have sites for it, and it's a wind so it benefits from our ??? bonus. FSA is great for burst damage - doesn't have sites for it atm but it does have wind too and our archery skill is increasing pretty fast. OTOH, it could be great for if we take the condor mission next week! I want both.

Not a big fan of the ice/water one, sadly. Requires a slashing weapon, which granted, slashing covers a fair amount of weapons, but unlike FSA's archery, we don't seem to have a great talent for it. Same with the lake/water one.

BTW, I'm much more wiling to go look for Heart or Heart/Heart arts now in the Archive to replace ZB (on the 1st floor). ZB really was the early red equivalent.

(I hope EPC gives meridian opening bonuses.)
 
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Switching to

[x] Ashen Shadow Art

Maybe we can get a different bow art later in next gen, wind/water or something

I mean we can always come back for any of the arts should we realllly want them we have unlimited access .

Next time we can even add more stuff to the list
 
ISA is going to help out our elemental balance and as an Arm-Arm Art will have the biggest punch.
Mr.rodent said:
Switching to

[x] Ashen Shadow Art

Maybe we can get a different bow art later in next gen, wind/water or something

I mean we can always come back for any of the arts should we realllly want them we have unlimited access .

Next time we can even add more stuff to the list
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Or we can just do what we planned and get an actual burst damage art to fill the hole in our style instead of another debuff art.
 
If we do end up going ashen I really do hope we pick up falling, or a floor 2 equivalent, at some point in the future. Short of needing to use our hands that art really does fill all of our needs with slows and defense piercing. I can't help but wonder if that last bit means armor negation or the chance to skip qi damage mitigation.
 
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