Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

I think if anyone should feel betrayed regarding the Thunderdome it'd be Meizhen since we saw her get in a fight and left her to it, knowing that she was alone (not including Cui) whereas Suyin and Su Ling. Personally I had no interest in running to save Suyin but I can respect the rest of what Arkeus is saying and actually didn't mind the subvote. She might have a somewhat fragile mindset but I doubt that the pill would be the straw that broke the camel's back. I'd be up for trading it to Su Ling alternatively but those were the two we had in mind when we kept it right?
The thing is, Ling Qi knew full well she couldn't help Meizhen at all. She didn't like it, but she knew it. She even commented on it at the time. Likewise, 'only Cui' is alone much better than Ling Qi and Gu Xiulan and Han Jian helping Meizhen.

Li Suyin and Su Ling were both significantly weaker than Ling Qi at the time, and they didn't have Ling Qi actually believing they would be perfectly safe in-character, while she had that belief for Meizhen.

Anyway, I said I would stop talking about this and I am failing, so I am going to shut up.

As for giving the pill to Su Ling, yeah, I'm hoping we can do it, but I'm excepting people to find excuses not to do so now, especially as last time it came up that's what happened. I'm probably just being bitter.
 
However, if my speculation is correct, then what Li Suyin needs to see is Ling Qi relaxing more and working less. To see her as less than perfect. In her mind we have basically made time for her every week for the past few months. She probably doesn't see that as 'friendship time' just 'tutoring'. We, on the other hand, grew up on the streets alone so for Ling Qi this is omg social contact I am so gud at socializing wow i am amazeballs at myself good going ling qi.

I do find your analysis very convincing. This part right here really is quite damning for her. We aren't going to slow down cultivating, so she won't ever get that feeling of being equal to Ling Qi. The other option of investing a huge number of minor actions just to keep her from feeling like giving up just feels unpalatable to me as well. As you said I doubt this will be solved with a couple actions, so just keeping her in a neutralish state of mind is probably going to be a huge action sink.

I know a lot of people quite like Suyin, and she has grown on me a bit, but dealing with her issues is kind of grating. Every time we interact with her it feels like playing babysitter or she will run off and quit. Unfortunately I honestly think this is a problem she is going to have to figure out on her own. We aren't going to be able to toss a minor action at her every single week forever after all. Yrsillar has done a great job making a bit of a damned if we do damned if we don't in regards to this girl.
 
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I know a lot of people quite like Suyin, and she has grown on me a bit, but dealing with her issues is kind of grating. Every time we interact with her it feels like playing babysitter or she will run off and quit. Unfortunately I honestly think this is a problem she is going to have to figure out on her own. We aren't going to be able to toss a minor action at her every single week forever after all. Yrsillar has done a great job making a bit of a damned if we do damned if we don't in regards to this girl.
Yes, that's why I'm hoping she can get as good a foundation as possible when she gets to yellow in the next couple weeks, as by that time she'll be able to do awesome stuff and grow much more quickly. We are still early enough in the year that her being at the very top of the year will deliver her enough opportunities to at least give her some chance to grow.

Something that @FixerUpper's excellent post doesn't take into account is that cultivating is the changing and the evolution of self. Each time she improves it forces her to confront her own self and either grow or fail. Her using those forced growth from being a cultivator, as well as realising she is in fact much better than the vast majority of the disciples, is the one way I can see of her managing to be not merely functional when being a cultivator, but flat out awesome.
 
I'm probably being a little callous but I have to say that we are not Suyin's mother or therapist it is not our responsibility to resolve all of her issues and every action we spend on her has a significant opportunity cost since we aren't spending it on improving our relationship someone who can actually help us. While we might seem to be in a good position right now, this position is completely dependent on our cultivation strength, something that seems to have been advancing more slowly recently. As such I find it difficult to justify potentially wasting an action every second turn, if Suyin does turn out to be the one robbing random girls I'd argue that justifying continuing to support her would be difficult.
 
Yes, that's why I'm hoping she can get as good a foundation as possible when she gets to yellow in the next couple weeks, as by that time she'll be able to do awesome stuff and grow much more quickly.
My big hope for her isn't actually that she gets more powerful from becoming yellow and can do more impressive things. Rather I hope she gets hit with her little vision quest and will make a choice that helps her get her shit together, at least a little bit. That seems like the most likely way for her to firm up what she wants and acknowledge who she is.
 
I'm probably being a little callous but I have to say that we are not Suyin's mother or therapist it is not our responsibility to resolve all of her issues and every action we spend on her has a significant opportunity cost since we aren't spending it on improving our relationship someone who can actually help us. While we might seem to be in a good position right now, this position is completely dependent on our cultivation strength, something that seems to have been advancing more slowly recently. As such I find it difficult to justify potentially wasting an action every second turn, if Suyin does turn out to be the one robbing random girls I'd argue that justifying continuing to support her would be difficult.
Well, the good news here is that Li Suyin has been helping us arguably as much as Bai Meizhen until now, so it's not like any action toward her is only "try to help her out", it also strongly help us in other ways.

You are however correct in saying that there will come a point where a relationship has no return, but "relationship that has the most return" shouldn't be the one included there. Not only that, I don't want Ling Qi to just abandon friends just because they aren't awesome enough for her, though obviously relationships atrophy over time.
My big hope for her isn't actually that she gets more powerful from becoming yellow and can do more impressive things. Rather I hope she gets hit with her little vision quest and will make a choice that helps her get her shit together, at least a little bit. That seems like the most likely way for her to firm up what she wants and acknowledge who she is.
Yeah, that's what the latter part of my post was about. Vision quest is key there. I just think the better the foundation is, the better the effect of the vision quest is, too.

EDIT: To clarify: Elder lessons gave us not only cultivation but also stat points every weeks. Before the thunderdome, Li Suying was the only other way to do so. Now Han Jian and co can also do so, but beforehand it was either cultivation or stat points.

Li Suyin basically gives us +2 on multiple cultivation action as well as 3/4 stat point each turn. That's... very substantial.
 
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@FixerUpper @DarkLight140 what do you say to putting the omake points into either Strength or Stamina? They're both two points from leveling up...

[X] Plan Preparing for Learning

Oops, missed this. Unless an Event is going down (and I've been informed there won't be one?) it should level normally in the course of the next two weeks so we won't really need to put the points there.

Personally I am waiting for formations to open up again. :V

I do find your analysis very convincing. This part right here really is quite damning for her. We aren't going to slow down cultivating, so she won't ever get that feeling of being equal to Ling Qi. The other option of investing a huge number of minor actions just to keep her from feeling like giving up just feels unpalatable to me as well. As you said I doubt this will be solved with a couple actions, so just keep her in a neutralish state of mind is probably going to be a huge action sink.

I know a lot of people quite like Suyin, and she has grown on me a bit, but dealing with her issues is kind of grating. Every time we interact with her it feels like playing babysitter or she will run off and quit. Unfortunately I honestly think this is a problem she is going to have to figure out on her own. We aren't going to be able to toss a minor action at her every single week forever after all. Yrsillar has done a great job making a bit of a damned if we do damned if we don't in regards to this girl.

A long time ago I suggested that we have her try to heal the Zhu twins bestie. In this way she'd be able to gain allies, we'd get them to stop going after Gu Xiulan (and incidentally us) and also help her train medicine.

Then it turned out someone ransacked her house and poked out an eye.

I still believe it'd be one of the more positive interactions she could have with other peers of about her level as well as a favor we could ask of her that accomplishes multiple goals simultaneously (increases our social network, puts out a minor fire, gives our allies more allies, gives her some positive rep as AWESOME healer, etc.).

As for giving the pill to Su Ling, yeah, I'm hoping we can do it, but I'm excepting people to find excuses not to do so now, especially as last time it came up that's what happened. I'm probably just being bitter.

*pat pat* We've all lost character votes before.

Something that @FixerUpper's excellent post doesn't take into account is that cultivating is the changing and the evolution of self. Each time she improves it forces her to confront her own self and either grow or fail. Her using those forced growth from being a cultivator, as well as realising she is in fact much better than the vast majority of the disciples, is the one way I can see of her managing to be not merely functional when being a cultivator, but flat out awesome.

It's indeed possible that she will confront her fears and etc. But what yrsillar seems to be hinting at here is that if she ascends with her current mindset her various difficulties may end up worse, not better.
 
Oops, missed this. Unless an Event is going down (and I've been informed there won't be one?) it should level normally in the course of the next two weeks so we won't really need to put the points there.

Personally I am waiting for formations to open up again. :V

It's indeed possible that she will confront her fears and etc. But what yrsillar seems to be hinting at here is that if she ascends with her current mindset her various difficulties may end up worse, not better.
[] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
I'm hopeful this means she is doing well enough that with this action her temperament will have normalized enough for her breakthrough/spirit quest to help her a lot.

As for omake points, I'm trying to motivate myself to write an omake so that I can put the points into SCS if my vote win (as it's the only plan that has a real chance to get SCS3). I can't always ask people to put their own points when it's my plan winning, after all.
 
The thing is, Ling Qi knew full well she couldn't help Meizhen at all. She didn't like it, but she knew it. She even commented on it at the time. Likewise, 'only Cui' is alone much better than Ling Qi and Gu Xiulan and Han Jian helping Meizhen.

Li Suyin and Su Ling were both significantly weaker than Ling Qi at the time, and they didn't have Ling Qi actually believing they would be perfectly safe in-character, while she had that belief for Meizhen.

Anyway, I said I would stop talking about this and I am failing, so I am going to shut up.

As for giving the pill to Su Ling, yeah, I'm hoping we can do it, but I'm excepting people to find excuses not to do so now, especially as last time it came up that's what happened. I'm probably just being bitter.
I don't actually feel guilty for not helping Meizhen, just that there is more in character angst supporting the fact we betrayed her than Suyin. I think it's always helpful in quests to take a step back and get some perspective which is difficult when viewing the world through a single person whose actions you choose. I think with Meizhen, Ling Qi rationalised what happened to herself with the idea that she wouldn't be able to make a difference and in the same way we ought to acknowledge that Ling Qi is a 14 year old (pretty sure that was her age?) and not able to go from living soley for herself to being expected to bear all the troubles of another person her age. Say if we were playing as Meizhen and Ling Qi talked to us about it we'd be shocked and appalled that she'd put so much pressure on herself and we definitely wouldn't think her a bad person/friend for living her life rather than standing sentinel over her less accomplished friends.

However, if my speculation is correct, then what Li Suyin needs to see is Ling Qi relaxing more and working less. To see her as less than perfect. In her mind we have basically made time for her every week for the past few months. She probably doesn't see that as 'friendship time' just 'tutoring'. We, on the other hand, grew up on the streets alone so for Ling Qi this is omg social contact I am so gud at socializing wow i am amazeballs at myself good going ling qi.
Hopefully going to formations lessons count as this. Added benefit if she's consistently better than Ling Qi, should help shore up her ego.
 
I'm not going to get into a long argument against it simply because this will get everyone angry for no reason, but let's just say I consider what we did deliberate disloyalty.

I suppose we won't be able to agree on this then, seeing as I literally can't see any possible way it could be deliberate disloyalty (although, granted, that might be because I'm exhausted).
 
Anyway, took off the subvote as it seems I am the only one for it and it's unfair to force it on other voters.
Great. Hopefully that means the plan won't lose any more votes for it; and if we are lucky it might be enough to convince @1986ctcel to switch.

And we had told her we'd have her back at the time
Did we? I don't remember that; when did we tell her we'd have her back during the Thunderdome?


For the Qi Foundation Pill.. We know Li Suyin is preparing to breakthrough and will be at yellow week 20 or so, so not giving it to her again feels like "Yeah, fuck you, I prefer keeping this pill I'll never use and do nothing with because you are a whiny little girl". And I understand that's not where a lot of voters are coming from about this, but when the actual arguments seems to come down to "I don't trust her to not be a fragile flower", I am saddened. Li Suyin is badass and determine and extremely smart, no fragile flower.
Li Suyin is totally a fragile flower. Apparently, she seriously considered quitting and would have done so without our encouragement, even before the thunderdome happened. And after the thunderdome, she said that she doesn't think she could have stayed if we weren't here friend. In what way does this paint the picture of mental resilience in your mind?

Now, I will totally admit that Li Suyin has been under a lot more stress than us; she's had her worldview cracked and then shattered, culminating in a crippling injury. Under such circumstances, I have no reason to expect Ling Qi to have done any better. So Li Suyin being fragile right now is less an innate weakness and more a product of her circumstances. However, that doesn't change that she is fragile right now - and therefore needs to be handled with care.
 
Anyway, took off the subvote as it seems I am the only one for it and it's unfair to force it on other voters.

Selfishness would have been prioritising our needs above her own, not what we did during the Thunderdom, where we purposefully chose to go on a shopping spree when everything hinted to her being beaten at the same time. And we had told her we'd have her back at the time, as well as promised ourself we'd try to be a better friend.

I understand, though, that I am probably the only one inthread to think we flat out betrayed her, and as a friend put it, "it colours how I think of everything after that". It also feels frustrating that we always go down to Waifuing the same character and ignoring what I feel are friends in need again and again.

For the Qi Foundation Pill.. We know Li Suyin is preparing to breakthrough and will be at yellow week 20 or so, so not giving it to her again feels like "Yeah, fuck you, I prefer keeping this pill I'll never use and do nothing with because you are a whiny little girl". And I understand that's not where a lot of voters are coming from about this, but when the actual arguments seems to come down to "I don't trust her to not be a fragile flower", I am saddened. Li Suyin is badass and determine and extremely smart, no fragile flower.

So yeah, @Katreus, taking off the subvote, and I am going to hug my cat a bit about what feels to me like once again betraying a friend because we know better than them what they need.

Actually, you're not alone in this Arkeus. I was fine with the Qi Foundation pill, and I thought the shopping vote instead of checking on Li Suyin was the worst decision the thread has made. The reason why i don't say anything is because I have a lot of anger towards that, especially since I wasn't there for the vote, and because people were literally saying "good, now she'll finally grow a spine!" after being mutilated and traumatized. As if it was a fair trade.

Let me clarify, I don't want to argue anything regarding the shopping vote, but I hated it and I had to deal with it. I also felt like Ling Qi was an absolute shit in that scenario, and if I was in Suyin's position (friend proritizes shopping over my safety), I would have completely broke off all relations with that person.

Eh whatever. It doesn't matter now. It's been a while since the thread made that decision, and I would be lying if I said I knew how you felt because I wasn't there for the shopping vote. But I completely understand why you're attached to Suyin right now, because it's the same thing for me. When I see Suyin now I feel extremely bad knowing we could have prevented her being broken and mutilated, and I'm going to keep feeling that until she restores her eye. And for that entire time I keep feeling like we have to make up for not being there for her. I think that translates to you as giving material stuff at her, and while I'm fine with that because I'm biased, the others do make good points. I think just being there for Suyin will help her, it's fine if we don't give her the pills.
 
Note: we have no indication that we would have made it in time to "save" Suyin; the second vote was a good while into the Thunderdome, after all.

Look, I'm not talking about the shopping thing anymore. I spoke about it because it was something that angered me and I wanted to let it out, but now that I have I know I don't want to talk about it anymore. I wouldn't be rational.
 
Actually, you're not alone in this Arkeus. I was fine with the Qi Foundation pill, and I thought the shopping vote instead of checking on Li Suyin was the worst decision the thread has made. The reason why i don't say anything is because I have a lot of anger towards that, especially since I wasn't there for the vote, and because people were literally saying "good, now she'll finally grow a spine!" after being mutilated and traumatized. As if it was a fair trade.

Let me clarify, I don't want to argue anything regarding the shopping vote, but I hated it and I had to deal with it. I also felt like Ling Qi was an absolute shit in that scenario, and if I was in Suyin's position (friend proritizes shopping over my safety), I would have completely broke off all relations with that person.

Eh whatever. It doesn't matter now. It's been a while since the thread made that decision, and I would be lying if I said I knew how you felt because I wasn't there for the shopping vote. But I completely understand why you're attached to Suyin right now, because it's the same thing for me. When I see Suyin now I feel extremely bad knowing we could have prevented her being broken and mutilated, and I'm going to keep feeling that until she restores her eye. And for that entire time I keep feeling like we have to make up for not being there for her. I think that translates to you as giving material stuff at her, and while I'm fine with that because I'm biased, the others do make good points. I think just being there for Suyin will help her, it's fine if we don't give her the pills.
People were split between checking on Meizhen or the duo and I think that was just after we were first faced with Suyin's angst over being dependent on us (because Xiulan told her so). Also not exactly fair to expect us to know she'd be mutilated in her home...

*Edit* didn't see the latest posts, dropping it
 
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Interlude: Bai Meizhen
"This is boring Sister Meizhen." Cui murmured petulantly. "Why do we need to do such a thing?"

"We are hardly doing anything," Bai Meizhen replied sourly. "I am the only one capable of performing this task. You need not stay for this," she stared hard at the block of grayish brown clay in front of her, mocking her with its mundane and inert nature.

"Where else would I go?" Cui grumbled childishly, and Bai Meizhen felt her coils shifting around her neck. "It is cold outside, and Sister Meizhen has forbidden me from doing anything fun."

"I have forbidden you from playing tricks or eating pets and familiars, yes," Bai Meizhen replied dryly. "Now hush, I must concentrate."

"Hmph, if Sister Meizhen wants to play in the mud so much, Cui will just be silent then," Cui said in a tone that Meizhen knew meant she would have to placate her with something tasty later.

She returned her attention to the clay, narrowing her eyes. She did not even disagree with her cousin exactly. She felt that this was a pointless waste of time, but it was also a task assigned by an Elder. She just wasn't certain whether the insufferably cheerful woman was mocking her by giving out meaningless tasks instead of real training.

Elder Ying confused her, and it was not a feeling she enjoyed. The woman was far too informal, and behaved much more familiarly with her than was appropriate. She had certainly not been… condescended too so blatantly in… ever really.

Cool, dry hands brushed affectionately through the soft fuzz of hair that had just began to grow out, and a voice tinged with hidden warmth offered gentle chiding for childish misdeeds.

This task was just the culmination of it really. Given a block of qi absorbing clay and told to tease out the true shape hidden within it. That she would find said shape as she meditated on her relationships and connections with the world. She had never even learned sculpture, as it was not among the artistic endeavors considered necessary for her station, so it was made even worse. As a cultivator her work would outstrip all but the best mortal craftsmen, even without tools, but that was hardly the point.

What did the woman even mean? What did she want her to shape from the clay? She was aware that earth was the element of acceptance and community, but she already knew her place in the world. What did she have to consider here? Elder Ying seemed an affectionate and emotional woman, but as an Elder that was surely a mask. Was she meant to create some pro empire image then? An offer of loyalty and solidarity from a treacherous Bai, to prove that their program was working?

She felt her lips curling in disdain and Cui's coils tightening, responding to her emotions, and calmed herself. It was beneath her to react so. She would simply perform the task as instructed. Closing her eyes, she considered where to begin. Family was of course the single most important connection a cultivator had. So, who among her clan did she feel connection and 'affection' for as the Elder had put it. Her thoughts turned first to her grandfather, and his cold and pitiless eyes flashed through her thoughts, disapproving as they always were. No, grandfather had trained her certainly, as he had the rest of the youngest generation of the Bai, in the hopes of teasing out outstanding talent.

No, that was simply the bond of familial duty, she felt instinctively that it wasn't what Elder Ying was looking for. Grandfather had hardly ever even spoken to her directly, save an occasional correction or word of grudging praise at success. Should she consider Father then? No, of course not, she felt a twist of bitterness at even considering the thought. Father was an embarrassment to the clan, a concession in the name of… financial concerns, a rabbit in the den of serpents.

Bai Meizhen breathed out, clearing her thoughts of such unfilial musings. It was unfair, Father was an outsider, married into the clan due to political concerns, it was unreasonable to expect more of him. She rather wished he could manage a simple family dinner without looking as if he was going to faint though. Should she consider her cousins then? She allowed memories of familiar faces and rivalries to pass through her thoughts one at a time.

...No, they were rivals for position in the clan. There might be a degree of polite cordiality, and and the acknowledgement that they would back one another against outsiders, but little else. She had been too busy striving to engage with the little cliques that had formed among them, and she was aware of the various minor resentments many in the clan held toward her for one reason or another.

Aunt Suzhen then, the hope of the clan, said to have the greatest chance of breaking through to white and restoring a degree of the Bai's honor. She had given her Cui, and awakened her spirit so that she could communicate properly with her cousin. She could admit that Aunt Suzhen, of all her family had showed her the most kindness and consideration. It was thanks to her that she had Cui, and that she had mastered the Abyssal Mantle art so well.

It had disappointed her in her earliest days that she had little talent for the metal arts which her Aunt made such prominent use of. Aunt Suzhen was incredibly busy with the business of the clan however, and her government duties. She could count the times she had spoken to her on the fingers of one hand.

Cui, then was the obvious answer, and she unconsciously raised her hand to run her fingers along her cousins cool emerald scales. Cui, for all her gluttony and sloth, was a good sister. Her lips quirked up in amusement as she felt Cui's tongue flick against her throat irritably. It seemed she had been thinking a little too loudly there.

She traced her fingers over the clay thoughtfully, was that the answer then? She scowled at the block, feeling like she was still missing something.

Her hands jerked very slightly as the door banged open, and she quickly raised her head, ready to stare down an intruder. Likely that vulgar Sun witch, back for another round. She had been focused too hard on her task if she had failed to notice the approach of a rival. Her gathering qi scattered though a moment later, when she found herself instead looking upon Ling Qi.

Her housemate rather resembled a wet cat, soaked to the bone as she was. She pursed her lips as she examined the skinny girl. Really, it had taken long enough for her to start dressing properly, but the other girl still showed so little care for her dignity, appearing like that, with brambles caught on her dress and twigs in her flyaway hair. It was frustrating. "What in the world happened to you?" She found herself asking, distracted from her task.

"Played tag with a snow spirit, then had to run from a pack of wolves," Ling Qi muttered tiredly, absently kicking the door closed behind her. Bai Meizhen glanced away, not wishing to take advantage of the girl's state to stare. She was practically indecent right now. At least she was wearing dark colors. She hoped that Ling Qi at least had the presence of mind to stay out of sight and avoid scandal on the way back.

The other girl was so oblivious to the importance of appearance and presentation. "...I see," she said, returning her gaze to her project. "Were you able to complete your mission regardless?" Ling Qi was unhurt, so there was not much reason for concern. She had worried that ther other girl would find trouble among her fellow disciples, going out alone, but she had not voiced it. She would not stunt Ling Qi's growth by coddling her.

"Yeah, it went fine honestly," Ling Qi muttered, glancing briefly at her as she passed through the room, idly brushing strands of hair from her face. Ling Qi's braid had come loose, and her hair was now clinging distractingly to the curve of her neck. "I really want a hot bath and a nap though, so I'm going to turn in. G'night Bai Meizhen."

"Good Night," she replied in return as the girl slumped off into the hall leading to the baths. Ling Qi… she did not know what to make of the girl at times. She had bouts of incredible good fortune, and was clearly talented… but she simply refused to fit into Bai Meizhen's understanding of things.

"The mouse is getting in trouble again, perhaps I, Cui should accompany her next time she goes out to play. Better than poking at mud," her cousin murmured.

"Do as you will," Bai Meizhen replied. "I doubt Ling Qi will have any patience for your gluttony either."

"Sister Meizhen is cruel," Cui sulked. "Maybe I should tell the mouse that you find her legs distracting."

"You will be hunting for yourself for the foreseeable future then," Bai Meizhen hissed quietly. She did not think of Ling Qi in that sense honestly, but the girl was simply so…. Indiscreet. It didn't help that she had simply been growing more distracted by such things since coming here. It was frustrating, but she was aware that it was simply a foible of her age and development.

No, Ling Qi was… complicated. She had called her friend, and the other girl seemed to return the feeling. Friendship with outsiders was a matter of convenience though, favors offered for favors owed. That had been how it began. She was not so foolish and conceited as the lesser nobles. She knew that an unawakened commoner brought to the sect would obviously be of high talent. The ministry would not bother taking them in and bringing them here otherwise.

It had cost her little to offer Ling Qi some minor favors at first, explaining simple things as one would to a child. The girl would likely rise to some degree of prominence and be a useful contact when she left the sect, provided that she made it through her tour of service. She had even toyed with the idea of offering her vassalage. The Bai were certainly short on vassals still, lands lying fallow and abandoned without protection by treasonous scum who chose to serve the barbarian Sun.

Ling Qi would not have even asked for much if she had brought it up in the beginning she suspected. Something had held her back though. The casual way the girl interacted with her was… refreshing, in a way. She enjoyed it, and hadn't wanted to end it by placing a clear and obvious delineation in rank between them.

Her vulgar behavior was also frustrating at times, she wondered sometimes if the other girl had been raised by wolves, like some barbarian legend, but it was not her place to pry into personal matters. Things changed gradually though, she grew comfortable with the status quo between them.

She grew complacent.

Then they had gone on the trial together, and she had faced the appearance of the girls death and the betrayal of the thing wearing her face. Her rage had been… unseemly. The Bai were a clan famed for their self control, and for good reason. A Bai's fury was as cruel and destructive as the great storms spawned by the dreams of Grandmother Serpent. She did not regret making that creature beg pitifully for death, but she did regret the weakness it represented in her.

She had grown far too attached to an outsider, too invested in her well being. The Bai had been shown time and again, that they could only rely on themselves. Others would fall to the siren call of power, whether it be to the imperial throne that had used them for so long, or the murderous drumbeats of the Red Garden. Grandfather would be disappointed in her.
She could not say she loved Ling Qi as she did Cui, who was her sister in all the ways that mattered… but she would be lying to herself if she said that Ling Qi was not important to her, and she knew lying to herself was a greater sin than even such a bond, it would stifle and slow her cultivation if left to fester.

She turned her attention back to the clay, once again pursing her lips. It was fine though, Ling Qi could stand on her own, and even had the attention of the Cai heiress. They could remain in contact even after parting ways, and Bai Meizhen would not have to show such a glaring weakness to her family. She shuddered to imagine Ling Qi behaving with her usual… Ling Qi-ness in front of her clan, or ancestors forbid, Grandfather.

Still, perhaps these thoughts were of some use. Perhaps this sort of thing was what she was meant to think of for this project. She would need to begin soon though, if she wished to complete it by sunrise, when the time for her next lesson came.

AN: There we go, a bit of rambly introspection from everyone's favorite Snek, while she works on an annoying art project.
 
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